Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[montreal]

Not me.. Finland was not the right enviroment for him. Things might have been different if he was in a better program like Kloten is, but he wasn't.

I would have taken Liiga over NHL. I look at the Nucks and how smart they were to send Pettersson back to Sweden, granted he was a 5th OA and skinny as a bean pole compared with Slaf but I always liked that decision and would rather see us take things slow then this let's put them in the NHL at 18 and hope they figure it out.

 

[Hacketts]

I would have taken Liiga over NHL. I look at the Nucks and how smart they were to send Pettersson back to Sweden, granted he was a 5th OA and skinny as a bean pole compared with Slaf but I always liked that decision and would rather see us take things slow then this let's put them in the NHL at 18 and hope they figure it out.

Regardless of the league, it's boils down to the environment.

 

[rahad]

I glad that he isn’t in the NHL, seem like he could handle the AHL but the Swiss league is significant competition and we have good prospects now they don’t have to share time. Wish they would have had the same approach with Slaf…

Our D core is stacked. Would have been surprise of him making it to the NHL in 2023. I could see him playing in the AHL next year. He would be competing with Mailloux and Barron for a position with the Habs.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I would have taken Liiga over NHL. I look at the Nucks and how smart they were to send Pettersson back to Sweden, granted he was a 5th OA and skinny as a bean pole compared with Slaf but I always liked that decision and would rather see us take things slow then this let's put them in the NHL at 18 and hope they figure it out.

It just seemed like from what those connected to the Habs org - was that Finland wasn't an option. They didn't like the system, they didn't like the coaching staff, they didn't like his usage on the team, etc.

I guess similar to Michkov, it wasn't an environment they wanted him to develop in. I'm sure if he was with Rogle, the decision might have been different.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

FWIW I'm not crazy about the Liiga as a developmental league in general, especially for a young forward. The style of hockey there is pretty defensive and linear, plus the young guys tend to get even less of a chance to play bigger minutes than in the SHL or the KHL. It's still good experience obviously, but I'd rather see my prospects elsewhere, unless they're already well established.

 

[KevSkillz4]

The poised, mobility and calm reminds me so much of Kaiden Guhle. I think everyone will forget about Matvei Michkov when he is going to be a solid top pair D, his style of game fit perfectly on Habs system. I'm 100% conviced that Guhle and Reinbacher will be the leaders for this defensive group. They are stud's type of D.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

The poised, mobility and calm reminds me so much of Kaiden Guhle. I think everyone will forget about Matvei Michkov when he is going to be a solid top pair D, his style of game fit perfectly on Habs system. I'm 100% conviced that Guhle and Reinbacher will be the leaders for this defensive group. They are stud's type of D.

If Michkov is scoring 100 point seasons, I don’t think anyone will be forgetting about him no matter how good Reinbacher will be.

Honestly for this pick to succeed, it hinges on what Michkov doesn’t do as opposed to what Reinbacher does do. Unfortunate but that is the reality of the situation.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

If Michkov is scoring 100 point seasons, I don’t think anyone will be forgetting about him no matter how good Reinbacher will be.

Honestly for this pick to succeed, it hinges on what Michkov doesn’t do as opposed to what Reinbacher does do. Unfortunate but that is the reality of the situation.

If Reinbacher becomes a #1 and forms an elite pairing with Hutson, I think people will be happy with the pick even if Michkov is a 100-point player.

 

[WeThreeKings]

If Reinbacher becomes a #1 and forms an elite pairing with Hutson, I think people will be happy with the pick even if Michkov is a 100-point player.

They'll still complain but it wouldn't matter.. we could have McDavid and the majority here would complain because he's not a winner like Brayden Point.

 

[1909]

The poised, mobility and calm reminds me so much of Kaiden Guhle. I think everyone will forget about Matvei Michkov when he is going to be a solid top pair D, his style of game fit perfectly on Habs system. I'm 100% conviced that Guhle and Reinbacher will be the leaders for this defensive group. They are stud's type of D.

People will forget Michkov IF Caufield scores 50 + every season and they finally find another sniper in a near future to back him up.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Nah people won't forget Michkov unless we have an actually decent offence + PP in 5 years. If we are still a below average nhl product to watch ( like they have been for the entire lifetime of people under 30) people will have the right to be pissed off passing on Michkov.

I know ill be livid if the team is still dogmeat unwatchable on par with Nashville and Arizona offensive production. Even if we have 6 great D back there we won't win anything if the forwards are dogwater.

I believe in Hugo and I understand what they are going for , I'm also patient and will give them tons of leeway before saying they made the wrong choice. But people won't forget , and they shouldn't , because we havent seen a special player in a habs jersey in forever. And im not talking about Nick Suzuki or Cole Caufield , players who almost every team in the entire league have comparables for lol

 

[badfish]

They'll still complain but it wouldn't matter.. we could have McDavid and the majority here would complain because he's not a winner like Brayden Point.

What would we complain about if we had Brayden Point

 

[nhlfan9191]

What would we complain about if we had Brayden Point

We had the best goalie in the league and arguably the best modern day goaltender for years by every metric possible including acknowledgment from peers and media by and people kept complaining he was overrated and he was a problem. We would find a way to run someone like McDavid out of town if we could.

 

[WeThreeKings]

What would we complain about if we had Brayden Point

That we didn't have McDavid.

 

[Jaynki]

If Michkov scores 100 points i think ANA, CBJ and SJ will also regret their picks.

I suggest we re-evaluate the day Michkov scores 100 points.

 

[montreal]

Regardless of the league, it's boils down to the environment.

yes environment is important, clearly this management teams puts stock in it since they seemed thrilled that Reinbacher will be coached by such a good friend of Houle's who said he will be in constant contact with his coach Gerry Flemming.

FWIW I'm not crazy about the Liiga as a developmental league in general, especially for a young forward. The style of hockey there is pretty defensive and linear, plus the young guys tend to get even less of a chance to play bigger minutes than in the SHL or the KHL. It's still good experience obviously, but I'd rather see my prospects elsewhere, unless they're already well established.

I do prefer the SHL as to me it's right there in talks for the 2nd best league in the world. I don't like to compare pro leagues to development leagues but KHL/SHL and then NL I guess followed by Liiga.

My think was more about if he's in Liiga they can't rush him so I would have rather seen him there then the NHL. the AHL would have been fine despite me not being a fan of 18 or 19 year olds in the AHL, at least he already had NHL size/strength.

 

[montreal]

It just seemed like from what those connected to the Habs org - was that Finland wasn't an option. They didn't like the system, they didn't like the coaching staff, they didn't like his usage on the team, etc.

I guess similar to Michkov, it wasn't an environment they wanted him to develop in. I'm sure if he was with Rogle, the decision might have been different.

now we just have to hope they made the right call with Slaf.

With Michkov as he just scored again today, that one could sting and I didn't want us to pick him as I feel he's overrated and not much better then Caufield (which is still really good of course)

 

[WeThreeKings]

now we just have to hope they made the right call with Slaf.

With Michkov as he just scored again today, that one could sting and I didn't want us to pick him as I feel he's overrated and not much better then Caufield (which is still really good of course)

Agreed, they just have to be right.

Michkov could sting but I agree with your analysis, and I think they thought the same thing.

The biggest thing for me is what do they do in the next two drafts, how their new development system works and if they can push someone like Roy/Mesar/Farrell into verifiable top 6ers.. and how they maximize their assets on the blueline to go out and maybe get someone like EP if they become available.

 

[1909]

now we just have to hope they made the right call with Slaf.

With Michkov as he just scored again today, that one could sting and I didn't want us to pick him as I feel he's overrated and not much better then Caufield (which is still really good of course)

We all have a very good idea why Mitchkov was not selected before #7.... and that HIS ATTITUDE problems. Even his former club in St Petersburg don't want him around their team. And also the fact - for Habs at least - that they were afraid to not see him before another three full seasons at NHL level.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

Our D core is stacked. Would have been surprise of him making it to the NHL in 2023. I could see him playing in the AHL next year. He would be competing with Mailloux and Barron for a position with the Habs.

I’d say Reinbacher is already ahead of those two ! True all round stud coming up and he has a few years on them in dev

 

[1909]

Folks here should be happy. We got our top D pairing for years to come: Guhle-Reinbacher. Now, let's hope Hutson and Mailloux will become key cogs of our future PP.

 

[BaseballCoach]

I do think with the number of quality prospects, I don't think it's that far out to see at least 3 or 4 cement themselves in the lineup.

Guhle seems to already be a lock. Barron, Harris, Xhekaj are almost there. Then you have Hutson and Reinbacher and maybe Mailloux if he ever learns to play D. They won't all be HOFs, but it's not totally out of the question at this point.

Will they all be top 4? Yah, I might agree with you there that it may be hard, but already 4 of those players are pretty close to being regular nhl players.

**edit, I forgot Barron was not drafted by the habs.

Hutson not only needs to learn how to play D, but also how to skate backwards.

 

[BaseballCoach]

Folks here should be happy. We got our top D pairing for years to come: Guhle-Reinbacher. Now, let's hope Hutson and Mailloux will become key cogs of our future PP.

Guhle-Reinbacher
Matheson-Kovacevic
Xhekaj-Engstrom
spare: Struble

Tradeable? Harris, Savard, Mailloux, Hutson? Not for nothing, for good pieces.

 

[1909]

Guhle-Reinbacher
Matheson-Kovacevic
Xhekaj-Engstrom
spare: Struble

Tradeable? Harris, Savard, Mailloux, Hutson? Not for nothing, for good pieces.

NO !!!!!

Norlinder and Trudeau are way ahead of Struble. Xhekaj has to come down on Earth. He is having a very bad camp.

 

[BaseballCoach]

NO !!!!!

Norlinder and Trudeau are way ahead of Struble. Xhekaj has to come down on Earth. He is having a very bad camp.

If Struble is my 7th, and anyone is still "way ahead of him" even after he gets his turn to work the AHL, then I would add them to the trade list. The 7th guy would have no trade value.

So sure, go ahead and add Norlinder and Trudeau to Engstrom and Xhekaj as potential top-sixers and expand the tradeable list to include anyone that might bring value that we are not pencilling in as core. Xhekaj may indeed have value around the league.

Also note that I think Kovacevic has more value to us than the value others might give in a trade, which is why I have him on the keep list - not that he is better than everyone on the trade list.

To me, trades are not just a disguised way to 'get rid of' a guy who has no value; they are often meant to land valuable pieces in return.

Folks here should be happy. We got our top D pairing for years to come: Guhle-Reinbacher. Now, let's hope Hutson and Mailloux will become keywhile cogs of our future PP.

Hutson can't and won't be a key cog if he can't shoot. Markov, not a cannonator, still shot way better than Hutson. without the abiity to shoot, the opponents can focus on cutting off the passing lanes.