Prospect Info: David Reinbacher

[RationalExpectations]

This kind of reminds me of Kotkaniemi in the sense that the pick was immediately panned by the fans and then the preseason rolled around, most saw him in NA action for the first time and "oh wow this kid is amazing" and the hype train was suddenly off the station. Different players and different management team but I hope they don't rush Reinbacher and botch his development like they did with KK.

That would be even worse in this case because of the logjam of young Dmen right now.

 

[BLONG7]

The kid had a decent game, but another year at least of playing at his current level will benefit his development....

 

[Jaynki]

Decent pro, great potential. Consistently doing the good thing. Not far from being NHL ready but another year of development in minor league will do wonder. ,

 

[DAChampion]

Decent pro, great potential. Consistently doing the good thing. Not far from being NHL ready but another year of development in minor league will do wonder. ,

Do you think it's possible for Reinbacher to become more NHL ready by playing outside the NHL?

;-)

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

Decent first game from what I saw, good decisions carried over from Kloten games. Only noticeable flaw is handling the puck, it does not hinder his ability to make good passes but he definitely bobbled the puck a few times in low to mid pressure situations. That will be the main thing to iron out over his early years.

 

[Jaynki]

Do you think it's possible for Reinbacher to become more NHL ready by playing outside the NHL?

;-)

I see you coming.

In fact, it won't change blip. That was always my argument. He wont be more or less NHL ready. Its up to the player to take care of his development and as an organisation, we can only manage the environment for the player.

Reinbacher will be the player he is next year and he will arrive in camp with the same growth and level of skills wherever he plays. Struggling in the NHL wont hold him back, dominating a lower tier league wont make him better.

He could benefit from early NHL experience. He will benefit from another NLA league too or AHL also.

This being said, an 18YO requires a lot of maintenance as opposed to a vet like Kovacevic or Lindstrom who will accept demotion, understand healthy scratch, will play PK, will understand concept, practice easier, etc. Last year, we were in a spot to give this care and maintenance to Slaf. SEA and NJ were not in a spot to offer this to Wright and Nemec as they were performance oriented and not development oriented.

I think this season we are performance oriented and i think our defensive is already very young and in itself require a lot of care and maintenance. I have no problem wherever Reinbacher plays.

 

[Mudz]

You must however consider that Swiss League has started already and you don't want him to be too late in his preparation because he ll need to be competitive !

He has to play in the AHL. NL mostly doesn't make sense. The only angle to send him there is the fans/media backlash (according to Alex Gascon article's). It's way more important he plays NA hockey.

 

[RationalExpectations]

He has to play in the AHL. NL mostly doesn't make sense. The only angle to send him there is the fans/media backlash (according to Alex Gascon article's). It's way more important he plays NA hockey.

I would say so too. However given the logjam at D, they have an excuse to send him black to NL

 

[Jaynki]

Why does NL does not make sense ?

 

[nhlfan9191]

I would say so too. However given the logjam at D, they have an excuse to send him black to NL

Judging from the way he speaks, I think he’d prefer that and I’m perfectly fine with it. Let him finish his business there and hopefully he comes ready for a big role in the American League the next season.

 

[AHShadow]

He has to play in the AHL. NL mostly doesn't make sense. The only angle to send him there is the fans/media backlash (according to Alex Gascon article's). It's way more important he plays NA hockey.

With the logjam at the AHL level, I think it makes sense for Reinbacher to go back to NL. He's comfortable there, his coaches know what he needs to do to improve and he'll play top minutes and all situations over there as well. Let him cook and hopefully he'll be better next year.

Even if he's not acclimated to NA hockey, we can still send him to the AHL next year. We won't be competitive next year either.

 

[waitin425]

Totally fine with him going back to Europe. I expect Hutson to get the call up when his season is done in the NCAA and I expect Mailloux to get a whiff of the show as an injury call up from the AHL.

Next year we will be running with all three as rookies. Kind of a YIKES there, but I believe in them!

 

[Justin11]

I like his maturity for an 18 yr old, sees the game very well.
Very impressive to say the least.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Totally fine with him going back to Europe. I expect Hutson to get the call up when his season is done in the NCAA and I expect Mailloux to get a whiff of the show as an injury call up from the AHL.

Next year we will be running with all three as rookies. Kind of a YIKES there, but I believe in them!

We had a bunch of rookie playing last year with Guhle, Kovasevic, Barron and Harris so we’ve done it before lol

Does seem the rebuild is almost over. Once Hutson, Mailloux and Reinbacher are in the every day defensive core, and Roy/Slafkovsky Can establish themselves in the top 6, I’d say we are there. That all could very well happen in a years time.

 

[Wats]

I see you coming.

In fact, it won't change blip. That was always my argument. He wont be more or less NHL ready. Its up to the player to take care of his development and as an organisation, we can only manage the environment for the player.

Reinbacher will be the player he is next year and he will arrive in camp with the same growth and level of skills wherever he plays. Struggling in the NHL wont hold him back, dominating a lower tier league wont make him better.

He could benefit from early NHL experience. He will benefit from another NLA league too or AHL also.

This being said, an 18YO requires a lot of maintenance as opposed to a vet like Kovacevic or Lindstrom who will accept demotion, understand healthy scratch, will play PK, will understand concept, practice easier, etc. Last year, we were in a spot to give this care and maintenance to Slaf. SEA and NJ were not in a spot to offer this to Wright and Nemec as they were performance oriented and not development oriented.

I think this season we are performance oriented and i think our defensive is already very young and in itself require a lot of care and maintenance. I have no problem wherever Reinbacher plays.

If the place he develops wont impact him, it makes more sense to play in a lower league and prolong his ELC contract rather than bringing players to UFA sooner just to have replacement level bottom line/bench level play. Who cares about a depth player when he can come in at 20 years old like Suzuki/Guhle/Caufield

 

[Andrei79]

I see you coming.

In fact, it won't change blip. That was always my argument. He wont be more or less NHL ready. Its up to the player to take care of his development and as an organisation, we can only manage the environment for the player.

Reinbacher will be the player he is next year and he will arrive in camp with the same growth and level of skills wherever he plays. Struggling in the NHL wont hold him back, dominating a lower tier league wont make him better.

He could benefit from early NHL experience. He will benefit from another NLA league too or AHL also.

This being said, an 18YO requires a lot of maintenance as opposed to a vet like Kovacevic or Lindstrom who will accept demotion, understand healthy scratch, will play PK, will understand concept, practice easier, etc. Last year, we were in a spot to give this care and maintenance to Slaf. SEA and NJ were not in a spot to offer this to Wright and Nemec as they were performance oriented and not development oriented.

I think this season we are performance oriented and i think our defensive is already very young and in itself require a lot of care and maintenance. I have no problem wherever Reinbacher plays.

Why would an 18yo need more maintenance if nothing affects development?

 

[McGees]

This kind of reminds me of Kotkaniemi in the sense that the pick was immediately panned by the fans and then the preseason rolled around, most saw him in NA action for the first time and "oh wow this kid is amazing" and the hype train was suddenly off the station. Different players and different management team but I hope they don't rush Reinbacher and botch his development like they did with KK.

Did anyone think KK was amazing? haha

 

[Hostile Offer]

Did anyone think KK was amazing? haha

Funny in hindsight but you should go and see those threads around September 2018. That dude was hailed as the next Kopitar back then.

 

[Jaynki]

Why would an 18yo need more maintenance if nothing affects development?

Not sure i understand your question?

I will still answer my best.

Many things affect a player development and its mainly up to the player in question.

A player don't become worst because he struggle in the NHL. A player don't become better because he dominate a lower tier league.

An 18YO require maintenance because everything is new for him. The pace, the season long grind, the practice, professional routine, plane travel, every town and amphiteater, etc. Whereas a veteran dont need coaching or care. He is experienced.

You have Pearson and he instantly arrive and fit wherever you place him, whatever the role you have for him. Nothing is new and he dont need babysitting.

Roy might not take well a demotion, may question himself over a simple line change, every town will be new, he may not grasp everything in practices, etc. And its normal, its part of the process and every player goes through it.

That is frustrating for us fans but its something important and its taken into consideration by the coaches.

 

[Mrb1p]

Decent first game from what I saw, good decisions carried over from Kloten games. Only noticeable flaw is handling the puck, it does not hinder his ability to make good passes but he definitely bobbled the puck a few times in low to mid pressure situations. That will be the main thing to iron out over his early years.

Good thing is that puck handling is one of the easiest thing to improve through physical drills. Just gotta get him working on it a lot and it will seamlessly get better. He's never going to be Suzuki, but he can still make it as an elite puckhandler.

He has to play in the AHL. NL mostly doesn't make sense. The only angle to send him there is the fans/media backlash (according to Alex Gascon article's). It's way more important he plays NA hockey.

No he does not have to. He asked to go back to Kloten and there is a total logjam in the AHL with many rookies and young players. There is not enough ice for everyone and he has a top pairing spot vacant in Kloten.

NL is one of the grindiest leagues outside AHL and NHL, they play a close quarter game even on slightly bigger ice, there's no reasons to prefer "NA".

Did anyone think KK was amazing? haha

Yes, most did. He showed just like Reinbacher in his camp, he showed he could handle himself as a big 3C and everyone was ready to give him a spot in the NHL. He did get it, and never took off because he had so little puck touches. Now he's a grinder.

 

[Jaynki]

If the place he develops wont impact him, it makes more sense to play in a lower league and prolong his ELC contract rather than bringing players to UFA sooner just to have replacement level bottom line/bench level play. Who cares about a depth player when he can come in at 20 years old like Suzuki/Guhle/Caufield

It depends of NHL readyness first and foremost and in fact it should be the only criteria, in my humble opinion.

Sliding an ELC one more year, although it gives the impression that we could squeeze more value out of it, should not be considered when deciding where to play a prospect.

If a player is ready for the NHL, his place is in the NHL. Team dont suffer because of a youngster entering his prime on a huge contract. Team suffer when they overpay crusty vet.

 

[1909]

sorry to burst your bubble, but we are about 5 years away of having a team ready to rush in the playoffs like Ottawa and Buffalo are trying to do since a few years, but with a much much better team.

Habs need to draft top 3 next year to get an ELITE fwd, this team will never win the cup wiht Suzuki and Caufield as their 1st line. Mtl needs Celebrini and an elite RW and a Oettinger type of goalie to be ready.

In other words, we need to draft a Stamkos/Kucherov duo so that our captain is in the right chair.

They had a chance to draft Coolley last season (who is very close to Jack Hughes in ability) , and trade #5 pick this year for Askarov (+ draft Kulich instead of Mesar last year).... Well. Let's now work with what we have.

 

[Jaynki]

They had a chance to draft Coolley last season (who is very close to Jack Hughes in ability) , and trade #5 pick this year for Askarov (+ draft Kulich instead of Mesar last year).... Well. Let's now work with what we have.

Wtf are you on. Cooley is not even close to Jack Hughes and its not even close and who cares about Askarov and Kulich.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

sorry to burst your bubble, but we are about 5 years away of having a team ready to rush in the playoffs like Ottawa and Buffalo are trying to do since a few years, but with a much much better team.

Habs need to draft top 3 next year to get an ELITE fwd, this team will never win the cup wiht Suzuki and Caufield as their 1st line. Mtl needs Celebrini and an elite RW and a Oettinger type of goalie to be ready.

In other words, we need to draft a Stamkos/Kucherov duo so that our captain is in the right chair.

Well that ain’t happening, sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[Mudz]

Well that ain’t happening, sorry to burst your bubble.

Sorry to burst you bubble but Mtl is finishing 22nd and winning the lottery