Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Laval Rocket edition

[DAChampion]

As for Rein, he's got a lot of good to very good qualities but he's not NHL top 6 ready. I'm not so sure that HuGo is going to see him as top 6 ready either. Nor do i think he will risk part of the season while Rein improves.

There's nothing wrong with Reinbacher playing another 40 or so AHL games.

 

[HabsAddict]

There's nothing wrong with Reinbacher playing another 40 or so AHL games.

Nothing at all wrong with that...and probably the smart if not only course of action.

We have a hole on RHD...and as much as we dream about our prospects, reality of this series just bit that in the jugular.

HuGo will be busy.. .

 

[windycity]

Reinbacher thread in a nutshell:

In fairness, that's pretty much any thread haha

 

[DAChampion]

In fairness, that's pretty much any thread haha

If a player is doing well their thread can end up on page 8.

 

[windycity]

If a player is doing well their thread can end up on page 8.

Until they have a bad stretch like every player does. Well except McDavid

 

[DAChampion]

For what it's worth,

The adversity faced by the Rocket against Rochester and now Charlotte is what I consider to be optimal for development. People developing a skill need to be challenged, because that's where growth is maximized. I think that the more games they play like this, the better, as they are now out of their comfort zone and need to unlock a higher gear.

 

[HabsAddict]

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And If you think Struble struggled often, but that Kovacevic was a major loss, I'm not sure you paid attention the entire season. Frankly, the bigger takeaway is the need to be patient with prospects/young D and that trading Savard at the 2023 deadline would have probably been better.

I think HuGo assumed Mailloux was ready for at least part time top 6 duty and traded Kovacevic. He was wrong.

Also at that point M finished top 3 offensive defenseman in tbe AHL so he looked like a 2nd PP solution. Hutson was still a mystery at that point.

M was the reason Kova became available...and in perfe t hindsight, he was wrong.

 

[Tyson]

I think HuGo assumed Mailloux was ready for at least part time top 6 duty and traded Kovacevic. He was wrong.

Also at that point M finished top 3 offensive defenseman in tbe AHL so he looked like a 2nd PP solution. Hutson was still a mystery at that point.

M was the reason Kova became available...and in perfe t hindsight, he was wrong.

My father always said...you don't often remember all the good times but you damn sure remember the bad times.

 

[HabsAddict]

My father always said...you don't often remember all the good times but you damn sure remember the bad times.

BINGO

THAT is why i watch and note what they do wrong as much as i celebrate what they do right.

 

[Tyson]

A player I often compare Reinbacher to is Moritz Seider.
Once drafted Seider player a full season in the SHL and 49 games (2G 20 A) in the AHL before making the jump.
Reinbacher has played 33 (6G 10A) total AHL games so far. Both are 6'3 RD.
Reinbacher is close to being a full time NHLer.

 

[HabsAddict]

For what it's worth,

The adversity faced by the Rocket against Rochester and now Charlotte is what I consider to be optimal for development. People developing a skill need to be challenged, because that's where growth is maximized. I think that the more games they play like this, the better, as they are now out of their comfort zone and need to unlock a higher gear.

BINGO AGAIN...

I'll repeat myself because...that's what old people do...

I always argue that you have to push the youngsters to the next level to learn and cope. Then they either rise or fall by the wayside.

The argument that they need their confidence level to be kept up does not fly with me. You are either competitive and want to succeed or you need mommy and a soother.

There is no crying...or soothers...in the NHL...

 

[Captain Mountain]

I think HuGo assumed Mailloux was ready for at least part time top 6 duty and traded Kovacevic. He was wrong.

Also at that point M finished top 3 offensive defenseman in tbe AHL so he looked like a 2nd PP solution. Hutson was still a mystery at that point.

M was the reason Kova became available...and in perfe t hindsight, he was wrong.

I think HuGo saw that Montreal had the following on D:

Matheson-Savard
Guhle

and Kovacevic, Barron, Xhekaj, Struble, Harris (remember that the Laine trade hadn't happened yet), Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher and Engstrom (plus I guess Trudeau, but no one was talking about him).

I don't think it was about any one player or another, its that they had a shit ton of young D that hadn't established themselves or shown that they could be more than a bottom pair D. Trading the oldest guy who was a year away from UFA status made the most sense at the time since no one would have predicted his trade value to skyrocket. And Savard's game falling apart was frankly the bigger issue than anything else: Barron was traded for Carrier, Hutson should win a calder, Struble showed growth and Xhekaj has an element to his game that no one else on the team does.

 

[Nicko999]

A player I often compare Reinbacher to is Moritz Seider.
Once drafted Seider player a full season in the SHL and 49 games (2G 20 A) in the AHL before making the jump.
Reinbacher has played 33 (6G 10A) total AHL games so far. Both are 6'3 RD.
Reinbacher is close to being a full time NHLer.

They are comparable so far in their career (minus the injuries).
So I am expecting Reinbacher to match Seider and get 50 pts in the NHL next season.

 

[Miller Time]

I think HuGo saw that Montreal had the following on D:

Matheson-Savard
Guhle

and Kovacevic, Barron, Xhekaj, Struble, Harris (remember that the Laine trade hadn't happened yet), Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher and Engstrom (plus I guess Trudeau, but no one was talking about him).

I don't think it was about any one player or another, its that they had a shit ton of young D that hadn't established themselves or shown that they could be more than a bottom pair D. Trading the oldest guy who was a year away from UFA status made the most sense at the time since no one would have predicted his trade value to skyrocket. And Savard's game falling apart was frankly the bigger issue than anything else: Barron was traded for Carrier, Hutson should win a calder, Struble showed growth and Xhekaj has an element to his game that no one else on the team does.

 

[Tyson]

They are comparable so far in their career (minus the injuries).
So I am expecting Reinbacher to match Seider and get 50 pts in the NHL next season.

That would be amazing. Reinbacher has some untapped offensive upside for sure.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I think HuGo saw that Montreal had the following on D:

Matheson-Savard
Guhle

and Kovacevic, Barron, Xhekaj, Struble, Harris (remember that the Laine trade hadn't happened yet), Hutson, Mailloux, Reinbacher and Engstrom (plus I guess Trudeau, but no one was talking about him).

I don't think it was about any one player or another, its that they had a shit ton of young D that hadn't established themselves or shown that they could be more than a bottom pair D. Trading the oldest guy who was a year away from UFA status made the most sense at the time since no one would have predicted his trade value to skyrocket. And Savard's game falling apart was frankly the bigger issue than anything else: Barron was traded for Carrier, Hutson should win a calder, Struble showed growth and Xhekaj has an element to his game that no one else on the team does.

Kovacevic was picked up on waivers. I don't think many people saw him becoming what he is now.

 

[HabsAddict]

I like to see Rein workon his physicality. He's ok but he needs to get even better to offset Hutson.

We and probably HuGo is pencilling him in as Hutsons partner and until Hutson gets the bionic mods, he's going to be the go-to physical partner. Nothing spectacular, no one is expecting Guhle V2 from him, but pushing and stick check is not going to stop NHL Neanderthals from getting close to the blue paint.

He's got 6'3" frme and 210 pounds to start with. Maybe get him and X to play keep-away in the corner. A few months of that and a few containers of bandages will work...

 

[HabsAddict]

What i saw from Kovacevic in NJ was good, heavy basic hockey. He uses his size effectivly, moves the puck quickly and occasional gets involved in the offense.

What i didn't see was high risk seek-and- destroy...hello X...risky pinches...hello M...or trying to be everywhere at once...hello Math.

He would be a perfect Savard replacement, but Savard is not much of a high bar. We got better and better coming.

 

[Saundies]

I'm not a Reinbacher guy and I hated the pick, but he was hurt pretty much all year and then pretty well thrown in for the playoffs (which are a notch above regular season play no matter what league). He's played a total of 20 AHL regular season games in two seasons. He's still got work.

I'm not ready to just throw my hands up and give up on him yet. Lots of miles left.

 

[the valiant effort]

Kovacevic was picked up on waivers. I don't think many people saw him becoming what he is now.

A boat anchor contract?

 

[Andrei79]

A player I often compare Reinbacher to is Moritz Seider.
Once drafted Seider player a full season in the SHL and 49 games (2G 20 A) in the AHL before making the jump.
Reinbacher has played 33 (6G 10A) total AHL games so far. Both are 6'3 RD.
Reinbacher is close to being a full time NHLer.

Yes and no. They're about the same size. They both have similar skating, even down to the stride. I find Seider to be better and harder to play against defensively in the slot, around the net and along the boards. He's also meaner than Reinbacher and will lay big hits. Reinbacher is more inconsistent and wild around the net, but he's very rangy and snuffs out plays in transition. Both have always been underrated offensively, but Reinbachers strength is his passing, even if his shot/one timer is underrated. I find Seider to be more "power" if that makes any sense.

 

[Ghetto Sangria]

What i saw from Kovacevic in NJ was good, heavy basic hockey. He uses his size effectivly, moves the puck quickly and occasional gets involved in the offense.

What i didn't see was high risk seek-and- destroy...hello X...risky pinches...hello M...or trying to be everywhere at once...hello Math.

He would be a perfect Savard replacement, but Savard is not much of a high bar. We got better and better coming.

Yall are forgetting kovys game fell back down to earth and devils fans are worried about his contract.

He definitely improved in NJ, but worse case scenario would be to sign a mediocre defensman to a 4 mil plus long term contract.

 

[Habs]

I bet Reinbacher is the kind of guy that 'enables push notifications' on his browser.

 

[WinterLion]

For what it's worth,

The adversity faced by the Rocket against Rochester and now Charlotte is what I consider to be optimal for development. People developing a skill need to be challenged, because that's where growth is maximized. I think that the more games they play like this, the better, as they are now out of their comfort zone and need to unlock a higher gear.

wise words

 

[MD thaivuN]

Yes and no. They're about the same size. They both have similar skating, even down to the stride. I find Seider to be better and harder to play against defensively in the slot, around the net and along the boards. He's also meaner than Reinbacher and will lay big hits. Reinbacher is more inconsistent and wild around the net, but he's very rangy and snuffs out plays in transition. Both have always been underrated offensively, but Reinbachers strength is his passing, even if his shot/one timer is underrated. I find Seider to be more "power" if that makes any sense.

Yeah, Seider is a physical freak and he was quite great at using his physical tools to handle opposing pressure even in his draft year.