Rumor: David Jiricek available

[AKL]

Sure bud whatever you want to convince yourself of.

I don't even think the Penguins will pull off Jiricek for McGroarty and the Wild are sure as hell not pulling him off either without including at least Yurov.

If the Wild were offering any of Yurov, Buium or Wallstedt, this deal would have been done already and Jiricek would be in Minnesota.

 

[belfour30]

If CBJ is accepting a package I hope the Hawks get involved.

 

[Jargon]

“Initially they had focused on trying to get another prospect like him, sort of a kind-for-kind type of deal,but they have shifted their expectations”

I’m guessing it is going to be a package

That heartens me because it means they asked for a lot and teams were like hahah no. Not saying he’ll be cheap but also not as expensive as some folks are suggesting (like no way are they getting Eklund from us).

I maintain Musty and a 2nd and some scraps but no idea if CBJ wants that (and it IS painful as I think Musty is going to be very good).

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

Sure bud whatever you want to convince yourself of.

I don't even think the Penguins will pull off Jiricek for McGroarty and the Wild are sure as hell not pulling him off either without including at least Yurov.

Ohgren is the obvious offer and is likely more appealing to CBJ than McGroarty or Yurov. Ohgren was drafted to fit Evason's systems and has already demonstrated that he is defensively capable in the NHL.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Ohgren is the obvious offer and is likely more appealing to CBJ than McGroarty or Yurov. Ohgren was drafted to fit Evason's systems and has already demonstrated that he is defensively capable in the NHL.

I'm not a Jackets fan but trading Jiricek for a guy being promoted based on his defense would make me want to vomit.

That's not even to say Ohgren is bad, but if they're trading someone with as high of an upside as Jiricek, why wouldn't they also be targeting upside back for him?

 

[Darren McCord]

I'd rather have a potential #1D

Both Blomqvist and Murashov look like good/great goalie prospects, but you don't need 2 good/great goalie prospects.

You do need 2 good/great if you are unsure.

I would rather have a really good number #1 goalie for the future then get a dman sullivan would instantly ruin and make a bottom pairing player.

I would trade Murashov over Blomqvist though if it happened. Blomqvist is more proven Murashov is still struggling to find his footing in the US.

If you trade Blomqvist you might end up with no goalies for the future.

If you trade McGroarty too. Your essentially trading 2 of the pens top prospects for a guy struggling with Columbus.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

I'm not a Jackets fan but trading Jiricek for a guy being promoted based on his defense would make me want to vomit.

That's not even to say Ohgren is bad, but if they're trading someone with as high of an upside as Jiricek, why wouldn't they also be targeting upside back for him?

Ohgren has high upside, reminder that he was picked before Yurov and outscored both Lekkerimaki and Ostlund in Djurgardens. You not being familiar with the prospect or the Wild's pool doesn't mean CBJ scouts aren't, especially with the coach being part of the Wild org last season.

The defense part is a separator for him along with the high effort level, the BJs have a lot of young offensive talent on the roster, a two way capable powerforward fits their skill guys very well in the future.

 

[Satan]

Nils Lundkvist + Mavrik Bourque <> David Jiricek who says no

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Explains why he's still in Vancouver, no?

Because we don't wanna give him up, sorry thought that was obvious.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Judging players based on a 10 game sample size in the AHL is about the quality of content I expect from the main boards.

Nobodies juggling players, just using their stats this season as a reason why they’re not different classes of prospects like you’ve suggested.

 

[Canovin]

Nils Lundkvist + Mavrik Bourque <> David Jiricek who says no

Dallas would be foolish to move that package. Just throw in a 1st and call it a day

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Thinking Ohgren + 1st is the offer from Minnesota. Maybe Rossi+ for Jiricek + Sillinger.

 

[OldGoaltender]

Thinking Ohgren + 1st is the offer from Minnesota. Maybe Rossi+ for Jiricek + Sillinger.

I say yes to the second offer.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

I say yes to the second offer.

Would depend on the plus but I don’t hate it

 

[Doug19]

The dude can't skate worth anything. His positioning is so poor and frankly when his is in position the other team can often times still just skate by him. He could be really good, but his biggest problem is that he's gotten by successfully with poor skating this long into his hockey career and doesn't appear to be exactly coachable. I'm probably not going to be happy with what we get for him just based on the fact he is a high draft pick, but I'm going to assume what we get isn't going to be that great and it's for good reason. I know he's just 20, but he would have to have a huge 180 turn around in order to be good in the NHL.

 

[ViD]

If the Wild were offering any of Yurov, Buium or Wallstedt, this deal would have been done already and Jiricek would be in Minnesota.

There are 5 teams reportedly offering “significant” packages so don’t get over confident

 

[AKL]

There are 5 teams reportedly offering “significant” packages so don’t get over confident

"Package" being the word that indicates it's none of the three I said

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Jiricek sounds like a nice add, but not something you bend over backwards for.

I don't send any of Rossi, Buium, Yurov or Wallstedt to Columbus for him, and I don't really care if that takes me out of the running. Jiricek will be playing behind Faber for the next 8+ years. You don't give up a top-end piece at another position for that.

 

[EdmFlyersfan]

Drysdale for Jiricek

 

[McDuffz88]

lots of garbage proposals in this thread. as a reminder:

• jiricek is 20 years old and was drafted 6th overall in 2022
• there are zero defensemen in the NHL from the 2023 draft
• looking at jiricek's peers from his class (nemec, korchinski, mintyukov) two of them are in the AHL as well

any talk trying to diminish his value because "he's not ready" seems to be missing the fact that none of his peers (save mintyukov) are, either. they're not trading him as a top-four RHD upgrade to a contender, they're trading him as a top-end prospect who checks all the boxes.

he's been on the radar for a while but this is not a prospect who is behind schedule – he still has plenty of runway and a massive ceiling.

as for what CBJ is looking for: a similarly talented young player, ideally one who is a bit farther along. under no circumstances are they looking for multiple pieces back. one-for-one, or a big fish for jiricek+. that's it.

that means fewer names like hoglander and more names like byram or rossi.

Nemec is ready but he's getting short squeezed because NJ is completely stacked on D. He was phenomenal last year. The only reason he isn't playing is because Kovacevic came in & has been lights out. He far surpassed expectations and is currently ranked #2 with Siegenthaler for best shutdown pair in the league. No one expected that. This doesn't take away from Jiricek's value though. He is worth a lot because he's a 20 year old RD. Definitely don't make the mistake that NJ did with Holtz by holding onto him too long.

 

[Coach Reggie Dunlop]

Don’t be surprised if Columbus takes on a younger veteran and a lessor prospect, instead of something like we seen between Philly and Anaheim.

Are you referencing Lombardi?

Lombardi isn’t anyone’s normal 4th round re-entry type player, drafted days after turning 19. Every scout knows his story now, and he’s looked at no differently than top 50 picks from both the 21’ and 22’ drafts.

He’s certainly outperformed many of them since, and every scout and NHL manager knows exactly who he is today, when most never heard of him at 17-18 years old. He went from having no major junior experience, and not playing in his 17-18 year old draft year, to being drafted just as he turned 19, to earning his NHL contract only months later (during his 100+ point OHL season), to already being a PPG player in the AHL at 21… He’s not scoring garbage goals either. He’s scoring NHL caliber goals and creating offense as well as any other prospects his age. He won’t turn 22 until next summer. So he’s well on his way now.

There’s also every chance, Detroit wants nothing to do with trading Amadeus Lombardi, and there’s a whole lot of NHL managers who’d pay a nice price to land him, as he’s doing all of this playing C as well. Not an easy thing to do, when it would be so easy to throw him on a wing and watch his stats go crazy.

As for Detroit and Jiricek?

I’d have bet the house a year ago today, they would’ve traded ASP straight up for him. Detroit liked Jiricek a lot, and Jiri Fischer spent quite a bit of time tracking him. If he had still been available, they likely would’ve drafted him, even though they needed C prospects at the time. He was supposedly the top dman on Jiri Fischer’s board. A player Jiricek reminded a lot of scouts of btw.

Today, I’m not so sure they’d be interested, even though I’ve heard they’d still like more natural offensive ability from their blue line prospects not named ASP… and because of how many prospects they have (trending towards the NHL) on the same timeline, they will be forced to consolidate some of those with trades over the next 12-24 months. Just think those trades will likely be for an established NHL player or two.

So who knows. Maybe they would like to add him into that young Top 4 core with Seider and Edvinsson.

If I’m Columbus and Detroit’s calling, I’m pushing for ASP still, but if that’s not in the cards, I’m demanding I get Wallinder in the deal, with a second piece.. A player who may not have the natural offensive ability of Jiricek, but he has the complete game, and he’s not far away at all. The injury to start his season didn’t help, but he’s come back just as strong, after a great AHL playoff last year, and an impressive training camp. There’s every reason to believe he can end up being a very productive Dman in the NHL, and sooner rather than later.

I still think though, whether it’s a fair comparison or not, it is out there…. that once you go through what Yzerman did with Drouin, you tend to stay away from those types of situations again. Whether that’s fair to Jiricek or not, that is the speculation out there. That they may have finally agreed to trade him, but not until he reported to the AHL.

I’m sure the entire story will come out if he’s traded, and looks like that might be the case.

One name I’ve heard to keep an eye on here would be Seattle’s Ryan Winterton, along with a Ty Nelson or Caden Price. Supposedly teams have been asking about him since training camp, and Seattle would move him in the right deal. If they see Jiricek as a core piece of their future, good bet they’re involved here. While they’d probably rather move Wright, I’d guess Columbus would push for Winterton, if they’re looking for a legit forward prospect who’s very close.

Winterton, like Lombardi, is trending to be a scoring C in the NHL right now. Pretty sure he’s 21 as well. Take him over Shane Wright any day of the week. Lots of Sean Monahan in his game.

A Winterton and Nelson deal, would be pretty similar to a Lombardi and Buium deal. Those aren’t garbage deals at all. Any concerns entering Lombardi or Winterton’s draft year, are long gone….

Both players are just as high-end of prospects as many 1st Rounders from the same drafts. Scouts and managers are very aware of both players.

The Blue Jackets could do much, much worse. Like I said though, if I’m Waddell, I’m trying to get another big, mobile, defensive prospect in the deal. 6’4”-6’5” mobile dmen just don’t grow on trees, and are almost never available. It’s also why Jiricek will still demand a good price here.

As a Detroit fan, isn’t there a huge chance at this point that wallinder ends up better than jiricek? Not sure if I’d be okay with a trade like that. Jiricek will be getting traded off of potential and old hype, rather than what he’s shown. It’s a tough trade for many because he is good but his refusal to go down to the AHL consistently and struggling with weight gain are glaring issues.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If it indeed is a package, what are the list of targets ?

I saw goalies, are the BJs in need of a goalie prospect?

 

[Sasso09]

Go full circle

Elite skating Jamie Drysdale for poor skating David Jiricek

My pitch from a philly POV

As a Detroit fan, isn’t there a huge chance at this point that wallinder ends up better than jiricek? Not sure if I’d be okay with a trade like that. Jiricek will be getting traded off of potential and old hype, rather than what he’s shown. It’s a tough trade for many because he is good but his refusal to go down to the AHL consistently and struggling with weight gain are glaring issues.

Jiricek for sure has more value than Willander.

The trade would be, value wise, Willander and their 1st (late)

I'd put the chances of Willander being better than Jiricek at far from "huge". 80/20 to Jiricek

 

[McTonyBrar]

Why do Wild fans want Rossi gone so bad? He’s a hell of a player. Only 23 and is on pace for 65 points. You guys would give him up for a right handed Dman who has high potential? You guys have Spurgeon and Faber already lol. I’m shocked.

But if it was Rossi, don’t you guys think Columbus would’ve completed the deal by now?

 

[BCNate]

I get that he is young, but not all top 10 picks pan out. His development has stalled for a reason. I don't think he will return anything close to the packages some have posted here.