Darryl Sutter or Paul Maurice?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Which coach has had the better career?

Both have multiple cups and have been in the league forever. Though Sutter is likely done.

 

[tabness]

I don't really know how to judge coaches, both had real good teams I guess and both had them play similarlyish, and both teams won

I like POMO though because of his interview from the first cup mostly, so voted him

 

[tarheelhockey]

In terms of “better career”:

1) Maurice has coached over 30% more games than Sutter, which is kind of a crazy stat. In a couple of years, Maurice will pass Scotty Bowman as the #1 most tenured coach in history.

2) Sutter has generally had more to work with. His early years in Chicago, that roster had tons of talent and didn’t go anywhere. Likewise his Sharks had talent up and down the lineup but were surprisingly never a 100-point team and never got past the second round. His first run in Calgary and then in LA, the teams (and era) were maybe better suited to his style and he had some deep runs. Then the second run in Calgary, there was that one brief window where everyone peaked at the same time, but otherwise he had a pretty mediocre run considering the amount of talent on those clubs.

Compare to Maurice whose run in Hartford was one of the most unfavorable situations any coach could land in. But he did get that team to a Finals appearance against all expectations. Toronto went the same way for him as it does with every other coach, then he goes back to a mediocre Carolina club and takes them on another Cinderella run. Goes to a Winnipeg franchise in turmoil and gets them back on track, then goes to Florida and makes the Panthers a quasi-dynasty comparable to Sutter’s Kings.

At their best they got around the same level of results. To me the distinction is that Maurice consistently got a little more out of his teams than you’d expect, while Sutter consistently got a little less.

 

[Felidae]

Both coaches are the perfect example on where to draw the line between tough and dirty.

Sutter does, Maurice doesn't.

I'll take the coach that doesn't have to build a culture of thugs to win

 

[tarheelhockey]

Both coaches are the perfect example on where to draw the line between tough and dirty.

Sutter does, Maurice doesn't.

I'll take the coach that doesn't have to build a culture of thugs to win

Absolutely nobody was saying that about Dustin Brown and Drew Doughty.

 

[JaegerDice]

Good comparison.

I feel like both coaches are good but not great coaches that got handed the keys to a juggernaut at the right time and, to their credit, made the most of it.

I prefer Sutter's 'old farmer with better dry humor than you'd think' podium style to Maurice's more intellectual jokey style, so I give the edge to Sutter on the basis of post-game interviews.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Maurice has had the advantage of coaching one of the strongest all around rosters of this century. His career up to that point was pretty mediocre. He made it out of the first round only 4 times in his prior 24 seasons coaching, missing the playoffs 13 times.

Credit for not fumbling with such a strong team, but I think this Panthers team should be winning cups regardless of who's behind the bench.

 

[Mobiandi]

Paul Maurice essentially wasted the Jets’ entire window.

I don’t think he would ever have been able to get out of the west in 2012 or 2014. Sutter’s biggest hindrance is his short shelf life while Maurice hangs on for longer but had this De Boer-y tendency to choke at the first real sign of adversity.

Would we even be talking about him in the same sentence as Sutter if the Panthers let game 7 in 2024 slip away?

 

[JaegerDice]

Paul Maurice essentially wasted the Jets’ entire window.

I don’t think he would ever have been able to get out of the west in 2012 or 2014. Sutter’s biggest hindrance is his short shelf life while Maurice hangs on for longer but had this De Boer-y tendency to choke at the first real sign of adversity.

Would we even be talking about him in the same sentence as Sutter if the Panthers let game 7 in 2024 slip away?

What window?

When was their window?

Did I miss their window?

 

[Pablo El Perro]

What window?

When was their window?

Did I miss their window?

I believe it was when they had Kovalchuk and Healthy.

 

[lawrence]

Though Sutter is likely done.

Darryl Sutter announces retirement from NHL coaching he announced his retirement in 2018 only to come back later to coach the flames.

his system works. Both are good coaches.

 

[SharksFan1992]

Sutter.

He did more with less. None of his teams that appeared or won the Stanley Cup were considered serious contenders. The '04 Flames, '12 Kings, and '14 Kings were expected to lose in the 1st round.

 

[SharksFan1992]

Paul Maurice essentially wasted the Jets’ entire window.

I don’t think he would ever have been able to get out of the west in 2012 or 2014. Sutter’s biggest hindrance is his short shelf life while Maurice hangs on for longer but had this De Boer-y tendency to choke at the first real sign of adversity.

Would we even be talking about him in the same sentence as Sutter if the Panthers let game 7 in 2024 slip away?

This Panthers team would have no chance against the Hawks and Kings of 2012-2015. Those Cup wins, in my opinion, were the most impressive of the cap era.

 

[SharksFan1992]

Good comparison.

I feel like both coaches are good but not great coaches that got handed the keys to a juggernaut at the right time and, to their credit, made the most of it.

I prefer Sutter's 'old farmer with better dry humor than you'd think' podium style to Maurice's more intellectual jokey style, so I give the edge to Sutter on the basis of post-game interviews.

Acting as if Sutter was "handed a juggernaut" team is far from the truth. The '12 Kings were a #8 seed nobody thought would escape the 1st round. The '14 Kings had one player, Kopitar, exceed 50 points that season. Sutter's system was integral to the Kings' success as they were not stacked with superstars like the current Florida team is. Like Trotz, he knows how to lead a team and get everyone to buy into a strong, defensive system.

 

[ijuka]

Maurice for sure. Sutter had the better teams.