Dany Heatley or Kaprizov?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Who was better at their peak?

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[Coffey]

Did KK get 50 in 07?
No? Didn't think so.

Heater clears.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Heatley’s peak is going to get underrated here because of how steep his decline was, but he finished 4th in the league in points in back to back years, and 5th and 2nd in goals. Kaprizov’s peak probably clears Heatley’s by season end, but this is a lot closer than most probably think

 

[Coffee]

The guy who would score 75 goals playing with McDavid

 

[seafoam]

Heatley’s peak is going to get underrated here because of how steep his decline was, but he finished 4th in the league in points in back to back years, and 5th and 2nd in goals. Kaprizov’s peak probably clears Heatley’s by season end, but this is a lot closer than most probably think

Heatley is going to be a victim of recency bias here.

 

[banks]

Kaprizov is amazing, and he's doing it all alone on his team. Where as Danny had Spezza and Alfredsson propping him up.

That said, this could is still Heatley. His peak was as a top 4 or 5 forward in the league, with bonus points for scoring goals. Back-to-back seasons with 50 goals and 100+ points.

Tough pick, honestly. I picked Heatley to even up the poll results a bit. Because I'm at a coin toss.

 

[Mirka the Turka]

Honestly I don't think Kaprizov had the peak that Heatley did during that all star game with the Thrashers

 

[Regal]

We'll see how Kaprizov’s season ends but I think I like his game a bit more. Heatley has better numbers relative to the league but was also playing with two other elite forwards.

 

[The Burdened]

the all star

 

[Hockey Outsider]

We'll see how Kaprizov’s season ends but I think I like his game a bit more. Heatley has better numbers relative to the league but was also playing with two other elite forwards.

For what it's worth, I think 2003 was Heatley's best season. It was a much lower scoring season than 2006 and 2007, and the difference in the supporting cast was significant. (Yes, Kovalchuk was on his team in 2003, but they weren't regular linemates at ES. In 2003, Heatley collaborated with Kovalchuk on 24 goals, but in 2006 and 2007 he collaborated with Alfredsson on 54 and 32 goals respectively - and that's without looking into anything for Spezza).

 

[GoldenKnight]

Went with Heatley, but it's very close.

I think Heatley was elite in his peak years, and we have all of those years in the books already. Based on that, Heatley edges Kaprizov out for me. However, if Kaprizov were to score at his current rate (or close to it) all season going into 2025, it would be him.

 

[biturbo19]

It's tough to compare the two really. Due to style of play, but especially due to "supporting cast", which kind of compounds the stylistic differences. Heatley was a tremendous goal-scorer, mostly a particular type of goal too. Very narrow skillset, but very focused and extremely good in that context. He was always sort of just the "finisher" even at his peak...and leaned a lot on a pair of other outstanding players with skillsets that really filled in where he was lacking.

Kaprizov on the other hand, is kind of an "everything" player. He does it all, and he does it largely by himself. He's capable of elevating other players around him in a way that i'm not sure Heatley ever was. I mean...he turned Ryan Hartman into a 34G - 65Pts player for cripes sake. I love the way the guy plays, but he is not actually nearly that good, and there isn't a chance in the world that Heatley would've been able to lift a linemate to that extent. And it's not like Kaprizov can't score all sorts of goals himself too.


So for me, it's Kaprizov. Though Heatley on that Pizza Line was bigtime, and his consistency in scoring goals was pretty impressive through his prime. So i wouldn't really rail to hard on anyone who votes that way. I just think the ability to elevate linemates tips the scales for Kaprizov.

 

[Lt Dan]

Dany Heatley is a f***ing All-star, end of discussion

 

[Bouboumaster]

Did KK get 50 in 07?
No? Didn't think so.

Heater clears.

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[Three On Zero]

@Coffey said it best, one of these got 50
In 07 while the other is stuck with a measly 47.

 

[Jetcetera]

Kaprizov didn't score 50 in 07. Heatley AINEC

 

[67 others]

Kaprizov is amazing, and he's doing it all alone on his team. Where as Danny had Spezza and Alfredsson propping him up.

That said, this could is still Heatley. His peak was as a top 4 or 5 forward in the league, with bonus points for scoring goals. Back-to-back seasons with 50 goals and 100+ points.

Tough pick, honestly. I picked Heatley to even up the poll results a bit. Because I'm at a coin toss.

Heatley was pretty damn good when he was on the Atlanta Thrashers in the clutch and grab dead puck era before his knees were ruined. He wasn't the greatest skater to begin with so losing more speed was a death knell,

He scored 41 goals and 89 points in his 2nd year in the league in Atlanta.

Kaprisov might not have fared as well in the clutch and grab era. Its hard to say

 

[ESH]

It's tough to compare the two really. Due to style of play, but especially due to "supporting cast", which kind of compounds the stylistic differences. Heatley was a tremendous goal-scorer, mostly a particular type of goal too. Very narrow skillset, but very focused and extremely good in that context. He was always sort of just the "finisher" even at his peak...and leaned a lot on a pair of other outstanding players with skillsets that really filled in where he was lacking.

Kaprizov on the other hand, is kind of an "everything" player. He does it all, and he does it largely by himself. He's capable of elevating other players around him in a way that i'm not sure Heatley ever was. I mean...he turned Ryan Hartman into a 34G - 65Pts player for cripes sake. I love the way the guy plays, but he is not actually nearly that good, and there isn't a chance in the world that Heatley would've been able to lift a linemate to that extent. And it's not like Kaprizov can't score all sorts of goals himself too.


So for me, it's Kaprizov. Though Heatley on that Pizza Line was bigtime, and his consistency in scoring goals was pretty impressive through his prime. So i wouldn't really rail to hard on anyone who votes that way. I just think the ability to elevate linemates tips the scales for Kaprizov.

I don’t think people give Heatley nearly enough credit for his passing ability. He wasn’t an elite playmaker by any means, and I do think Kaprizov is better at that aspect, but people act like all Heatley did was stand around and wait for one-timers.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Who was better at their peak?

You are comparing a long retired player to a player still playing and is just entering his prime