Player Discussion Danton Heinen

[World of Wardlow]

He should be back in the lineup for Tuesdays game.

I'm thinking:

Heinen-Krejci-Backes
Beleskey-Spooner-Nash
Schaller-Moore-Acciari

 

[BigGoalBrad]

That guy is right he's done very little other than simple passes and shoot at the goalies chest. Looks like an OK prospect but hes not a legit option to play on that line with Krejci and Backes. Needs time in Providence.

BUT after a night spent watching the game upstairs and how utter trash the line with Beleskey and Hayes are I am very happy to give him another week with the big club and play him a couple games on that line.

 

[Pia8988]

How are 'simple' passes supposed to be a negative if they're effective and give a good scoring opportunity?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

That guy is right he's done very little other than simple passes and shoot at the goalies chest. Looks like an OK prospect but hes not a legit option to play on that line with Krejci and Backes. Needs time in Providence.

BUT after a night spent watching the game upstairs and how utter trash the line with Beleskey and Hayes are I am very happy to give him another week with the big club and play him a couple games on that line.

Do you play?

Passes and plays like the ones Heinen made aren't "simple", especially when you have NHL caliber D in your face. Put the kid with someone who can finish and the points will come.

You are welcome to your opinion, but he's much more than an OK prospect. Not sure how you feel about Vesey, but look at his numbers vs Heinen's at the same age.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Do you play?

Passes and plays like the ones Heinen made aren't "simple", especially when you have NHL caliber D in your face. Put the kid with someone who can finish and the points will come.

You are welcome to your opinion, but he's much more than an OK prospect. Not sure how you feel about Vesey, but look at his numbers vs Heinen's at the same age.

Yes and its nothing like this level. A super talented guy like Colin Miller can have all the skill in the world great hands and a really good shot and it won't show up on the point sheet.

Heinen as a prospect is good think Koko/Spooner maybe a tad better. I am referring to them when they were his age not right now 5 years after we drafted them. Good player and interesting for the future. Problem is right now he has far less offense than Spooner even if he projects to be as good or maybe better all around as a player. Hes not going to find that playing at the NHL level before he is ready.

One of the talented young kids him/Czarnik/Debrusk should be more NHL ready by Jan/Feb. They just aren't right now. I'd love it if they were and we could send ****ing Hayes down to Providence but they aren't. We have an embarrassment of a 3rd line and the coach doesn't even trust Spooner yet to center it despite it being a flaming pile of crap. This is a prospect who needs some time so the game slows down for him.

 

[BostonPC]

Do you play?

Passes and plays like the ones Heinen made aren't "simple", especially when you have NHL caliber D in your face. Put the kid with someone who can finish and the points will come.

You are welcome to your opinion, but he's much more than an OK prospect. Not sure how you feel about Vesey, but look at his numbers vs Heinen's at the same age.

I like what I have seen from Heinen so far. He is not scoring right now but I believe the points will come.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Yes and its nothing like this level. A super talented guy like Colin Miller can have all the skill in the world great hands and a really good shot and it won't show up on the point sheet.

Heinen as a prospect is good think Koko/Spooner maybe a tad better. I am referring to them when they were his age not right now 5 years after we drafted them. Good player and interesting for the future. Problem is right now he has far less offense than Spooner even if he projects to be as good or maybe better all around as a player. Hes not going to find that playing at the NHL level before he is ready.

One of the talented young kids him/Czarnik/Debrusk should be more NHL ready by Jan/Feb. They just aren't right now. I'd love it if they were and we could send ****ing Hayes down to Providence but they aren't. We have an embarrassment of a 3rd line and the coach doesn't even trust Spooner yet to center it despite it being a flaming pile of crap. This is a prospect who needs some time so the game slows down for him.

The more he plays, the more the game will "slow down for him". Heinen thinks the game at a higher level than Colin Miller, who is probably not the best comparison. He's been as good/better than Hayes, Spooner, and Beleskey with far less experience than any of them. I would have no issue with him spending time in PRO learning the game, if the B's had better options, but I don't see any.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

The more he plays, the more the game will "slow down for him". Heinen thinks the game at a higher level than Colin Miller, who is probably not the best comparison. He's been as good/better than Hayes, Spooner, and Beleskey with far less experience than any of them. I would have no issue with him spending time in PRO learning the game, if the B's had better options, but I don't see any.

Yeah I agree with a lot of this especially the no better options part.


I just don't think hes that good as an allaround-er right now. I also think he has to get his offense up to Spooners level to be a good NHL player and not a journeyman/fringe guy. Think he needs 50-100 AHL games to get his offense up to Spooners level and don't think that would happen being thrown to the wolves in the bigs.

 

[Fonzerelli]

I agree it looks like they've skipped a step with Heinen. He needs a year in the AHL. Maybe give Czarnik a longer look

 

[chizzler]

I agree it looks like they've skipped a step with Heinen. He needs a year in the AHL. Maybe give Czarnik a longer look

Maybe your right but it took Marchand a while too, but I never doubted him. Let's give this kid a little slack.

 

[Fonzerelli]

Maybe your right but it took Marchand a while too, but I never doubted him. Let's give this kid a little slack.

I was meaning to give any slack. I share your high opinion of him.

That said, all but a very few very special players should spend time in the AHL, IMO. It grooms them for the next step. A buffer zone where they can learn and develop. Nothing wrong with a year (or more) in AHL before making the jump. For all but a few there is something valuable there to be learned, and they are better for it. Patience is a real virtue when it comes to development.

 

[JRull86]

Honestly haven't had an issue with his play like some here have. He's made the plays he needs to make, and frankly should have some points to show for it, if his linemates could finish. Has a very good hockey IQ as well.

Nothing he does is flashy, but he makes the smart play more often than not. Not sure about his defensive game given the limited viewing time, but the Eriksson comp is definitely one I can see in terms of a non flashy, makes the play and moves on type of player.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

I like Heinen a lot but I wonder if Cehlarik is the guy who needs a look in Boston until Christmas while Heinen adjust to the pro game? Cehlarik has had a couple years of playing pro hockey against men.... something to think about.

 

[Pia8988]

I like Heinen a lot but I wonder if Cehlarik is the guy who needs a look in Boston until Christmas while Heinen adjust to the pro game? Cehlarik has had a couple years of playing pro hockey against men.... something to think about.

I'm down for anything that breaks up the 3rd line. Hell, I'll even take Cehlarik-Nash-Heinen.

 

[rocketdan9]

I hope he doesnt turn out to be this years kemp

Seen him make solid plays/passes... but havent seen much in capability to score... could be one of those pass first guys and needs to play with top calibre wingers

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I hope he doesnt turn out to be this years kemp

Seen him make solid plays/passes... but havent seen much in capability to score... could be one of those pass first guys and needs to play with top calibre wingers

This year's Kemp? Are you kidding?

Heinen is a pass first guy, but has a pretty good shot. The only issue he has is inexperience. In an ideal situation, he should get 40 games in PRO, but Vatrano's injury derailed that. He is going to have to learn on the fly in the NHL. Kid has a high hockey IQ and should adapt relatively quickly.

 

[PB37]

Heinen has been ok. He doesn't look out of place from the blueline-in. I was expecting a little more creativity offensively out of him, but you can see he has a good head for the game. I think I mentioned this before but he looks smaller than what he's listed at.

 

[EverettMike]

He's much smaller than I expected.

 

[Mainehockey33]

 

[DKH]

Boston organization just sick

 

[Mainehockey33]

Heinen-Krejci-Pastrnak could be fun to watch next season. I hope they don't go out and over pay for someone like Kane who I think is a bit overrated.

 

[NDiesel]

How has he actually looked these playoffs? Obviously offensively he's doing well, but overall?

 

[ODAAT]

Yes and its nothing like this level. A super talented guy like Colin Miller can have all the skill in the world great hands and a really good shot and it won't show up on the point sheet.

Heinen as a prospect is good think Koko/Spooner maybe a tad better. I am referring to them when they were his age not right now 5 years after we drafted them. Good player and interesting for the future. Problem is right now he has far less offense than Spooner even if he projects to be as good or maybe better all around as a player. Hes not going to find that playing at the NHL level before he is ready.

One of the talented young kids him/Czarnik/Debrusk should be more NHL ready by Jan/Feb. They just aren't right now. I'd love it if they were and we could send ****ing Hayes down to Providence but they aren't. We have an embarrassment of a 3rd line and the coach doesn't even trust Spooner yet to center it despite it being a flaming pile of crap. This is a prospect who needs some time so the game slows down for him.

Colin Miller is "super talented"??? I like the guy, like his skill but....

 

[ODAAT]

probably all secondary assists and lucky bounces that go in to put up those stats

 

[BNHL]

Colin Miller is "super talented"??? I like the guy, like his skill but....

I think he's got 2 gifts,skating and shooting,the rest of his hockey attributes are average,below average or not yet developed.