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Foresling was on waivers more than once. Some guys don’t follow the traditional path of development. They figure out their game a bit later.
Value of: Dante Fabbro
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Talk about a very solid turn around. Some may argue anyone could’ve played those minutes well with Werenski but it’s on his resume now. Nobody can take that away from him.
He doesn’t do anything special, so he won’t be highly sought after, but played well after going to Columbus. Definitely earned himself more than just a “prove it” contract. There will now be teams looking at how he was used in Columbus, and try following suit.
Likely not more than 2 years to start, but teams looking for a solid partner for a younger, Top 4, “Pair Carrying” Dman, could find themselves a very solid long-term partner. Probably the best spot for him. A chance to go to Vancouver and play with Quinn… Detroit to play with Edvinsson, etc. That type of a role. Where all the pressure is on his partner, and all he has to do, is be solid every year, and grow his game on special teams as well.
That’s the best type of fit his agent should be searching for. A little surprised Columbus hasn’t re-signed him, but as good as he fit, Werenski was already playing at a very high level this season. The experience though, and how well he played in that role, is going to open up some interest, playing a similar role somewhere else.
That’s the types of situations he can turn into a 4-5 year deal at $5+ million in two years. Just has to find that right spot, where the expectations aren’t what they were in Nashville. Somewhere he’s used correctly, in a supporting role. That’s who he’s gonna be for the rest of his career.
The worst thing he can do, is sign somewhere where the expectations are too high for him again. He just doesn’t have those kind of skills at the NHL level.
He’s going to have some 1 year offers, where he may think he can turn that into a long term deal quicker, but he’d be smart taking a 2 year deal, solidify himself, and then get his 4-5 year deal.
He doesn’t do anything special, so he won’t be highly sought after, but played well after going to Columbus. Definitely earned himself more than just a “prove it” contract. There will now be teams looking at how he was used in Columbus, and try following suit.
Likely not more than 2 years to start, but teams looking for a solid partner for a younger, Top 4, “Pair Carrying” Dman, could find themselves a very solid long-term partner. Probably the best spot for him. A chance to go to Vancouver and play with Quinn… Detroit to play with Edvinsson, etc. That type of a role. Where all the pressure is on his partner, and all he has to do, is be solid every year, and grow his game on special teams as well.
That’s the best type of fit his agent should be searching for. A little surprised Columbus hasn’t re-signed him, but as good as he fit, Werenski was already playing at a very high level this season. The experience though, and how well he played in that role, is going to open up some interest, playing a similar role somewhere else.
That’s the types of situations he can turn into a 4-5 year deal at $5+ million in two years. Just has to find that right spot, where the expectations aren’t what they were in Nashville. Somewhere he’s used correctly, in a supporting role. That’s who he’s gonna be for the rest of his career.
The worst thing he can do, is sign somewhere where the expectations are too high for him again. He just doesn’t have those kind of skills at the NHL level.
He’s going to have some 1 year offers, where he may think he can turn that into a long term deal quicker, but he’d be smart taking a 2 year deal, solidify himself, and then get his 4-5 year deal.
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I would guess Waddell just hasn’t gotten around to it yet. He said in an interview with the CBJ beat writer that he had been waiting to talk with Evason about the UFAs going forward - Evason just finished Worlds.
Look at how many clubs want a top 4 RD and have far too much cap space. A 2 year deal would be safer but his tape this year is excellent, at least one or two clubs are going to risk going long term with Fabbro and that will set the bar in the bidding.
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Familiar with Francois Beauchemin? Another waiver guy clearly not worth anything. Fabbro will get 5 years no problem if he wants it. He's a legit 2nd pair guy that played well with Werenski on the top pair. Ideally suited as a 2nd pair guy in my opinion, but he's not a guy that will bounce with short term contracts. He'll be highly sought after if he reaches UFA status.
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His tape is great. So was anyone who played with Werenski this year. That’s how GMs look at it.
When GMs talk about getting a Top 4 RHD, they’re talking about one who can carry a pairing. At least in most cases. There’s been this crazy misunderstanding of the term over the last ten years or so. The term “Top 4” has always been used by GMs and scouts to describe a player who can “carry” a Top 4 pairing. Somehow the social media and podcast generation has turned that into meaning anyone who literally plays in a Top 4, even as a role playing partner. There’s a big difference between the two, from a team’s perspective.
Fabbro has still never shown he can “carry” a pairing, and that ship has likely sailed at his age. Like I said though, he can make a great career out of being a Top 4 sidekick to a top-end Dman. It’s a good bet that’s how every team is looking at him after Columbus. Once again, he just doesn’t have those top-end attributes to carry a pairing. There’s a whole lot of Dmen who’ve made a lot of money doing what he did this past season though.
The concern by most teams will be, they wanna see it for more than half a season, and with more than a Norris Trophy candidate. Offering him a 5 year, $25 million deal can go sideways really quickly. That’s why teams will look at a 2 year deal.
It’s gonna be July 1 though. Teams do crazy things. I’m gonna guess most are looking at a 2 year deal still.
Yes but some teams are perfectly capable of managing the risks of a five year deal going sideways. Like what consequences are there really for a team like the Sharks if a five year Fabbro deal goes badly? It’ll take two years minimum to be done with him and even then distressed RD’s still hold value and can be retained on with three years left. If Fabbro is willing to get paid by a bad team, that five year deal is a very good bet for them.
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I'm not worried as a CBJ fan. First, he was picked up this year and Fabbro (plus agent) would have to be some kind of idiot to not test free agency. And there's nothing wrong with that, just to see what is out there. I don't think there's a big market for a longterm contract with him. And plus, if he's going to stay, it's nice he has to choose here.
He's had 2 season where he's scored more than 20pts. And has had 1 GM give up on him. That doesn't scream longterm or big money. He will test the market and then decide if he wants to play somewhere new or with what he already knows.
He's had 2 season where he's scored more than 20pts. And has had 1 GM give up on him. That doesn't scream longterm or big money. He will test the market and then decide if he wants to play somewhere new or with what he already knows.
If he doesn't remain a Blue Jacket, maybe Zach can recommend he go play with LaCombe. I think he'd make a very solid partner for him, pushing Trouba/Gudas down to 4/6 roles instead of 2/4 roles. Blocks some of the young Ducks D (Helleson, Luneau, Moore) for a bit but that's a separate issue to resolve for a diff thread.
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I got you. A bunch of us on the Sabres board (@Der Jaeger, @HaNotsri, @Old Navy Goat (RIP)) always thought he should have been a target for the past few seasons. Even moreso when he got put on waivers.
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Fabbro will always be a competent NHL top-4 D just based on his skating plus his IQ. So there's not a lot of risk in terms of signing him.
He may get more or fewer points depending on pairings, etc, he has in the past worked very well paired with Josi and Werenski, and while it may seem like that will obviously inflate his "stats", he's also actually extremely complementary when he plays with those top-pair guys. He really helps make them better too, more than just the little uptick in his own stats.
He's not old or about to fall off any cliffs physically. The bottom line is that the Nashville Predators seriously mismanaged him. He's a competent/good player, and the Predators couldn't seem to appreciate it. The Predators are one of the worst franchises in the NHL right now, so I wouldn't hold this against the player. Everybody on the Preds' board here knew he was a lot better than the Preds so-called "braintrust" did. He's low-risk, teams should be chasing a guy like that (up to a point anyway). I just don't think there is any real "downside" with him. What he did this season is very much what you can expect from him if he has the icetime and opportunity.
He may get more or fewer points depending on pairings, etc, he has in the past worked very well paired with Josi and Werenski, and while it may seem like that will obviously inflate his "stats", he's also actually extremely complementary when he plays with those top-pair guys. He really helps make them better too, more than just the little uptick in his own stats.
He's not old or about to fall off any cliffs physically. The bottom line is that the Nashville Predators seriously mismanaged him. He's a competent/good player, and the Predators couldn't seem to appreciate it. The Predators are one of the worst franchises in the NHL right now, so I wouldn't hold this against the player. Everybody on the Preds' board here knew he was a lot better than the Preds so-called "braintrust" did. He's low-risk, teams should be chasing a guy like that (up to a point anyway). I just don't think there is any real "downside" with him. What he did this season is very much what you can expect from him if he has the icetime and opportunity.
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I get why people say that. He's a very competent defenseman who (like you said) does seem to work well with higher end guys. But there's still risk there. If CBJ offers him 5 to 6m and his agent uses that as leverage against other teams...would a GM pay 6 to 7m (or 8) for a guy with 377 games 25g 73a and is a +29 career. I understand he's better than his stats and why CBJ would do it, IMO it's risky for another team who doesn't know how well he'll fit in their system.
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As the original Fabbro stan, I take umbrage with being left out of that list.
Waddell has said he’s been talking to Fabbro.
Columbus hasn’t signed anyone yet because Waddell wanted to go over the UFAs with Evason, and Evason has been at Worlds.
Here’s an interview with him from about a week ago.
Blue Jackets GM Don Waddell Talks 2025 NHL Combine & Offseason Updates - The Hockey Writers NHL Entry Draft Latest News, Analysis & More
Blue Jackets GM Don Waddell stopped by to discuss the upcoming NHL Combine and gave some offseason updates of note.
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