Prospect Info: Danila Yurov RW/C, 24th Overall, 2022 NHL Draft
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AKL
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Well on the other hand, I don't think he can make a negative difference to the team this year either.
We need him to come over and we need him to be good if we want to improve as a team long term.
Dr Jan Itor
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Fully healthy playoff forward roster is something like this:
Kaprizov - Rossi - Zuccarello
Johansson - Eriksson Ek - Boldy
Foligno - Hartman - Nyquist
Trenin - Gaudreau - Hinostrozza
Extras (Brazeau, Gaunce, Shore)
Get him over, have him meet his teammates, practice a little, and if we go down 3-1 or something, pull somebody out and shake things up. Might not make a bit of difference, but I truly don't care about the burned year. Spurgeon and Hartman come off the books his first RFA summer, and nobody of note comes off the following summer anyway.
Kaprizov - Rossi - Zuccarello
Johansson - Eriksson Ek - Boldy
Foligno - Hartman - Nyquist
Trenin - Gaudreau - Hinostrozza
Extras (Brazeau, Gaunce, Shore)
Get him over, have him meet his teammates, practice a little, and if we go down 3-1 or something, pull somebody out and shake things up. Might not make a bit of difference, but I truly don't care about the burned year. Spurgeon and Hartman come off the books his first RFA summer, and nobody of note comes off the following summer anyway.
He can do all of these things (except play down 3-1) if his contract start is pushed to next season.
Dr Jan Itor
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Good enough reason. Also injuries. What if Johansson tweaks a knee? Yippee, Devin Shore draws in. Meh.
And with 0 proof Yurov is a better choice? Why does Yurov jump Ohgren who has had the season in the system? Why not sign Stramel, burn a ELC year, and play him instead?
Yurov didn't have a great season and is coming off an injury where he missed a ~month of hockey.
AKL
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Unknown quantity in Yurov is better than the known non-factor in Ohgren.
Potential skill is the reason Yurov is over Stramel, even if you don't agree that it's there. Yurov is also two years older and has been playing in a professional league. That would seemingly mean there's a higher chance of him being more polished. Mediocre season in the KHL >>>>>>>> mediocre season in the NCAA.
Bringing Yurov over and putting him in the last few regular season games would also indicate if/when he should draw into a playoff game. If he's a non-factor in those regular season games, don't need to put him into a playoff game. +1 reason to bring him over asap.
There's virtually no downside to seeing what he can do this season.
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BagHead
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but this bolded part is where I don't agree at all. Just because you don't know he's worse doesn't mean he isn't worse. He could legitimately be worse than Ohgren, and based on the seasons they've had, it wouldn't be a shock to my system if he is. Ohgren, at a similar level (AHL), went point-per-game this year and had the highest point-per-game rate on Iowa. That was not an easy team to score for.
I can see arguments for and against playing Yurov. I think Wabit is right that they'll probably have to go after a UFA scorer anyway, but I think there's also value in knowing what you have, and you can't do that without seeing how he plays and what he needs to work on. And that goes for him too - playing in a handful of NHL games may better inform how he works out and what skills he works on this summer.
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I'm not saying he can't be worse than Öhgren, but if Johansson goes down and we need a scorer, I know Öhgren won't be it. Yurov could be. (He could also not be, hence why I'd want him to get regular season games to see what we have in him right now.)
I’m one of Stramel’s biggest advocates and I would not think twice about signing Yurov first over him.
Dr Jan Itor
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1. Admittedly, I completely forgot about Ohgren.
2. I don't care about proof.
3. I don't have Stramel and Yurov close to the same caliber of prospects.
I don't think either Yurov or Stramel belong on NHL ice after their seasons, neither did Marat K after last season. The future is the future, but this is the present.
Burning an ELC year just to see the new and shiny for a handful of games isn't good business to me. If Yurov was healthy and repeated or on improved off of last season I'd feel different, but he didn't.
Getting a couple of games with (likely) 4th line time (because it's MN), in a better league, in a completely new system, with complete strangers, on a completely new continent, withc a completely foriegn language, maybe not at 100% health, seems like setting him up for faliure.
