Value of: Daniel Sprong

[GRob83]

What value does Daniel Sprong have around the league? He scored at a 25 goal pace last year. I could see him being expendable once Oshie comes back. Sprong lacks the physical edge the Caps seem to look for in wingers which I believe played a factor in the Vrana trade last year. Brett Leason has looked good and has tremendous size which could make him a solid compliment to the 3rd line with Eller and Sheary once Backstrom returns.

Ovechkin - Kuznetsov - Wilson
McMichael - Backstrom - Oshie
Sheary - Eller - Leason
Hagelin - Dowd - Hathaway

Extra Forwards: Axel Jonsson-Fjallby, Garret Pilon
IR: Mantha
Sent to Hershey: Protas
Sent to Junior: Lapierre

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[illpucks]

Caps need Sprong because they need speed. Fairly slow team other than him and one or two others.

 

[Gurglesons]

Not much. He’s Pirri 2.0.

 

[txpd]

What value does Daniel Sprong have around the league? He scored at a 25 goal pace last year. I could see him being expendable once Oshie comes back. Sprong lacks the physical edge the Caps seem to look for in wingers which I believe played a factor in the Vrana trade last year. Brett Leason has looked good and has tremendous size which could make him a solid compliment to the 3rd line with Eller and Sheary once Backstrom returns.

Ovechkin - Kuznetsov - Wilson
McMichael - Backstrom - Oshie
Sheary - Eller - Leason
Hagelin - Dowd - Hathaway

Extra Forwards: Axel Jonsson-Fjallby, Garret Pilon
IR: Mantha
Sent to Hershey: Protas
Sent to Junior: Lapierre

Vrana got cross ways with all 3 of his NHL head coaches in DC. It had nothing to do with his lack of a physical game. Sprong's problem is the same. He gets turned around backwards and on the wrong side of the play in his own zone all the time.

 

[txpd]

Caps need Sprong because they need speed. Fairly slow team other than him and one or two others.

They need Sprong if he going to establish himself as a legit NHL player. He is not doing that. With Oshie and Mantha out he has a chance to put up some numbers and he just isnt

 

[Random schmoe]

Eh, he's cheap at $725K (RFA with arb rights after this season) and has shown enough that he can be a goal scorer in the NHL to keep around as a depth guy.

But yeah... he's having all the opportunity in the world right now, and isn't putting the puck in the net. I just doubt his trade value is enough to offset the potential he has hit before.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

I'd say before we consider trading any of our youth.... Sammy, Hags and Carlson need to go. Yes Caps fans our emotional attachment to the most over rated player on the team is not worth 8 mil a year for the next 5.

If the Caps unload those 3 they will have 12,750,000 to work with to bring in a good goalie, defense + forward that can beat 44 pts a year while having the benefit of riding Ovie's coat tail. If Mike Green did it anyone can and for much cheaper. (No disrespect to Mike, that just fit really well there)

Trading those three are the answer to this teams problems

 

[Caps8112]

I'd say before we consider trading any of our youth.... Sammy, Hags and Carlson need to go. Yes Caps fans our emotional attachment to the most over rated player on the team is not worth 8 mil a year for the next 5.

If the Caps unload those 3 they will have 12,750,000 to work with to bring in a good goalie, defense + forward that can beat 44 pts a year while having the benefit of riding Ovie's coat tail. If Mike Green did it anyone can and for much cheaper. (No disrespect to Mike, that just fit really well there)

Trading those three are the answer to this teams problems

Wait... you want carlson gone? Not against it but don't really think he's the problem either. If they were to go on a run of any kind he would be a reason for that

 

[txpd]

I'd say before we consider trading any of our youth.... Sammy, Hags and Carlson need to go. Yes Caps fans our emotional attachment to the most over rated player on the team is not worth 8 mil a year for the next 5.

If the Caps unload those 3 they will have 12,750,000 to work with to bring in a good goalie, defense + forward that can beat 44 pts a year while having the benefit of riding Ovie's coat tail. If Mike Green did it anyone can and for much cheaper. (No disrespect to Mike, that just fit really well there)

Trading those three are the answer to this teams problems

There is not a chance in hell that the Capitals trade John Carlson.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

Wait... you want carlson gone? Not against it but don't really think he's the problem either. If they were to go on a run of any kind he would be a reason for that

He is not the problem per say, just a very expensive player who's numbers are inflated due to the players he is playing with. Which is why I brought up Green. Green appeared amazing while playing for the Caps, then he was traded to Detroit and disappeared. We could easily replace Carlson for a lot less than 8 mil per season. Another example was Alzner, everyone was gutted when he was traded ( or signed) and while he may not have been putting up the numbers Carlson was look at how his production dropped for the Habs.

Carlson is a good solid defender, just not worth 8 mil a year to a cap stricken team.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

There is not a chance in hell that the Capitals trade John Carlson.

Sadly I agree and do not have very high expectations for the Caps this year for that reason.

 

[Caps8112]

He is not the problem per say, just a very expensive player who's numbers are inflated due to the players he is playing with. Which is why I brought up Green. Green appeared amazing while playing for the Caps, then he was traded to Detroit and disappeared. We could easily replace Carlson for a lot less than 8 mil per season. Another example was Alzner, everyone was gutted when he was traded ( or signed) and while he may not have been putting up the numbers Carlson was look at how his production dropped for the Habs.

Carlson is a good solid defender, just not worth 8 mil a year to a cap stricken team.

I agree with you about Alzner. He was too expensive and I hated that he wasnt on the team for the cup run but thats how it goes. Think there is another side to the green/carlson dynamic that you are overlooking. I agree that green and carlson were pretty much interchangeable although green was better at breakouts and carlson is a better defensive defensemen but it is not that easy to find those 2 players. The caps were lucky to have them back to back. You say that type of player costs too much and I agree but anyone who pads their stats teeing up for Ovi is going to get paid. Maybe you get that player on an entry level deal or a sweet deal for a year but thats it.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

He is not the problem per say, just a very expensive player who's numbers are inflated due to the players he is playing with. Which is why I brought up Green. Green appeared amazing while playing for the Caps, then he was traded to Detroit and disappeared. We could easily replace Carlson for a lot less than 8 mil per season. Another example was Alzner, everyone was gutted when he was traded ( or signed) and while he may not have been putting up the numbers Carlson was look at how his production dropped for the Habs.

Carlson is a good solid defender, just not worth 8 mil a year to a cap stricken team.

didn't the Caps just re-sign him?

 

[txpd]

Sadly I agree and do not have very high expectations for the Caps this year for that reason.

That's fine. Carlson has lead all nhl defenseman in scoring by over 30 points the past 3 seasons. He will again this season. No team trades that.

 

[Capathetic]

That's fine. Carlson has lead all nhl defenseman in scoring by over 30 points the past 3 seasons. He will again this season. No team trades that.

Do you think Green in his prime is better than this Carlson? Particularly on the power play?

I felt Green brought a dynamic presence Carlson didn’t yet JC was better all around positionally and when it came to offense could facilitate the talent around him. Green had a wrist shot during that streak he set a record that was lighting up goalies. Green once injured wasn’t the same. Carlson I don’t get the vibe he would have the same production on 80% of the teams in this league.

 

[Hivemind]

He will again this season.

Adam Fox says hello.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

some Ducks fans were obsessed with this guy.

Hes an offensive forward with limited potential. Will be in Europe soon

 

[txpd]

Do you think Green in his prime is better than this Carlson? Particularly on the power play?

I felt Green brought a dynamic presence Carlson didn’t yet JC was better all around positionally and when it came to offense could facilitate the talent around him. Green had a wrist shot during that streak he set a record that was lighting up goalies. Green once injured wasn’t the same. Carlson I don’t get the vibe he would have the same production on 80% of the teams in this league.

Green was flashy. Carlson isn't. Carlson is more reliable. Still Carlson is the best scoring d in the league season after season

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Sprong is a great guy to have in the organization and they have no reason to trade him. He is a good skater with a terrific shot and adds a speed and scoring element that the Caps need in their middle six. He’s also young and cheap and not nearly the defensive liability he’s made out to be on these boards.

Eller, Dowd, Hathaway, and Hagelin have a combined one goal in over 40 games played this season. They are allergic to scoring this year. The Caps do not need to give away a cheap, effective scoring talent like Sprong unless it’s an offer that’s lopsided in their favor.

 

[CapsFrontOffice]

Sprong is a great guy to have in the organization and they have no reason to trade him. He is a good skater with a terrific shot and adds a speed and scoring element that the Caps need in their middle six. He’s also young and cheap and not nearly the defensive liability he’s made out to be on these boards.

Eller, Dowd, Hathaway, and Hagelin have a combined one goal in over 40 games played this season. They are allergic to scoring this year. The Caps do not need to give away a cheap, effective scoring talent like Sprong unless it’s an offer that’s lopsided in their favor.

I think Eller just heard you

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

I think Eller just heard you

Good! When Lars is on he’s one of the best 3Cs in the league, would be great if he got rolling.

That said, even if he gets rolling it doesn’t change the equation for me with regards to Sprong.

 

[hb13xchamps]

Brett Leason is averaging about 8 minutes of ice time per game. He isn’t pushing Sprong out of the lineup. Sprong isn’t going anywhere, nor should he.

 

[illpucks]

They need Sprong if he going to establish himself as a legit NHL player. He is not doing that. With Oshie and Mantha out he has a chance to put up some numbers and he just isnt

Because he's a young Andrew Cogliano after his rookie year speed but not much else

 

[Edenjung]

Sprong is worth some frikandels, Fries and some povertjes.
And a bag of stroopwaffles.

 

[Capathetic]

Green was flashy. Carlson isn't. Carlson is more reliable. Still Carlson is the best scoring d in the league season after season

I’m aware. The question was in his prime. Would you rather have Green on this power play? Don’t let another night of standing still on 1.30 of a 5v3 pp make up your mind lol

I like JC. I just think the combo of he and ovi on the pp makes it easy to pressure and stop. I’d even like to see Ovechkin in the bumper spot once in awhile. Teams would have to adjust and seriously the office goals are nice but the guy gets so many in tight.