Signing(s): Daniel Jones signs long term extension with the Giants (4 years, $160 million)

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TheAngryHank

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I have a difficult time seeing the Giants go far in the playoffs with Jones as their QB, but maybe they'll prove me wrong.
I would agree with you but the NFC is weak, Purdy had a good run , I like Daboll ,he has turned the Giants around so far.
 

TMLegend

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As an Eagles fan this makes me quite happy. The Giants should be mediocre at best for the foreseeable future.
 

Big Poppa Puck

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he Carved the 32nd rated Defense, as a long time viking fan that is the worst Defense ive ever seen, hopefully flores can turn that ship around, with Kendricks gone, I just read dantzler as well!

Flores is alone should improve the D (But I also said theres no way 21 could be worse than the 20 defense and it was, barely) and it seems like they're trying to get younger there. Both Smiths might be gone next.

Somethings going on with Dantzler. He showed flashes at times, then got hurt and when he came back was inactive for "personal reasons" towards the end of the season. He fell out of a favor there. Remember he did something to piss Zimmer off too. So he might be a bit of a knucklehead behind the scenes and they just said screw it cut him now when we need the cap room rather than in August.
 
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Flores is alone should improve the D (But I also said theres no way 21 could be worse than the 20 defense and it was, barely) and it seems like they're trying to get younger there. Both Smiths might be gone next.

Somethings going on with Dantzler. He showed flashes at times, then got hurt and when he came back was inactive for "personal reasons" towards the end of the season. He fell out of a favor there. Remember he did something to piss Zimmer off too. So he might be a bit of a knucklehead behind the scenes and they just said screw it cut him now when we need the cap room rather than in August.
yea I was reading Z'darious asked fo his release, I like Hit Man, think he would flourish with Flores, but yes should be an interesting off season! like you said it looks like they are going to go for a younger D, which I think is a good idea
 

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Ehh....bad contract. But what else could the Giants do.

I mean who are they going to go get better than Jones? They are not a Rodgers away from a SB. Unlike.. say maybe the Jets.

The issue I have with him is that he is similar to Dak. When everything is in place, he can get it done. Otherwise, he will struggle. Elite QB's do not need an awesome OL or elite receivers. Or even a top D. Just maybe one of those. See guys like Mahomes, Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.
 
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I have not followed much the Giants the past few seasons but I have read many time that Daboll is the GOAT and that whatever he do it is the best thing ever done in football.
 

StreetHawk

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Ehh....bad contract. But what else could the Giants do.

I mean who are they going to go get better than Jones? They are not a Rodgers away from a SB. Unlike.. say maybe the Jets.

The issue I have with him is that he is similar to Dak. When everything is in place, he can get it done. Otherwise, he will struggle. Elite QB's do not need an awesome OL or elite receivers. Or even a top D. Just maybe one of those. See guys like Mahomes, Brady, Manning, and Rodgers.
Well, it wasn't really a matter of getting rid of Jones or not. It was whether they should have tagged him vs give him a new deal with guaranteed money longer than the 2023 season. I get that would have meant not tagging Barkley, but given the RB market, you are realistically talking about guaranteeing 2 years or like $25-27 mill of salary. Just a bit more than 2 consecutive tags. No one wants another Murray/Bell and sign another team's RB coming off the rookie deal for big money.

If they could have done term on Barkley for say 4 years, $60 mill with $26 mill guaranteed, they could have had Jones for like $32 mill this season or something. Financially, that would have made more sense, but the Giants opted to do term with Jones and tag Barkley.
 

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I haven't seen a team mess up the franchise tag this bad since it was implemented

I am adamantly against paying running backs
put giving saquan a bump in what Chubb got, then franchising Jones was clear to everybody except their GM
 

StreetHawk

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I haven't seen a team mess up the franchise tag this bad since it was implemented

I am adamantly against paying running backs
put giving saquan a bump in what Chubb got, then franchising Jones was clear to everybody except their GM
I agree. Chubb deal was $36.6 mill over 3. So $12.2 mill per. With $20 mill guaranteed and $12 mill in signing bonus. $2 mill in base salary and $3 mill in option bonus. And $2.9 mill of his $10.85 mill from his 2023 base salary was guaranteed at the start of 2022 league year.

Do that deal in a heartbeat with Barkley. Push it to $40 mill and push the guaranteed money to $24/25 mill.

2 tags of Jones cost you like $70 mill give or take. And if you have $25 mill guaranteed for Barkley that’s $95 mill. Now have $82 mill for DJ and the $11 and change for Barkley for $93 mill but no Barkley signed for 2024. Would cost you another $13.5 mill to keep him. Be around $10 mill less to have tagged Jones give or take.
 

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Jones is awful but he was at time he was playing better then Lamar

And to Jones credit he has never thrown away his teams hopes and dreams with it all on the line

The legacy of Jones is a failed 1st round pick while the legacy of Jackson at this point is of a guy who falls apart when it matters most

Congrats to Jackson though on being better than Daniel Jones and having same # of championships and SB appearances

Maybe someday Jacksons teammates will be able to carry him on their backs to a SB with a herculean effort

You obsession with Daniel Jones is odd at this point as is your boosting of a guy who time and again falls apart in big moments
 
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Blitzkrug

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Jones is awful but he was at time he was playing better then Lamar

And to Jones credit he has never thrown away his teams hopes and dreams with it all on the line

The legacy of Jones is a failed 1st round pick while the legacy of Jackson at this point is of a guy who falls apart when it matters most

Congrats to Jackson though on being better than Daniel Jones and having same # of championships and SB appearances

Maybe someday Jacksons teammates will be able to carry him on their backs to a SB with a herculean effort

You obsession with Daniel Jones is odd at this point as is your boosting of a guy who time and again falls apart in big moments
Lamar might fall apart in big moments, but Daniel Jones is just the NFL version of a pile of lego. Doesn't need to fall apart because he was never together to begin with.

Dude's biggest career accomplishment is winning a playoff game against arguably the most fraudulent team in NFL history in the 2022 Vikings and their 32nd ranked defense. fiddle-de-f***ing dee if that isn't worth 160 million idk what is!

Dude has thrown 2 TDs to 8 INTs since signing this contract. You and your affinity for shitty white QBs needs to take a short walk off a long pier.
 

Spring in Fialta

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Dude is talking as if Lamar isn't a HOF player if he retires today.

Stop it. You lost. Jackson could go 0-16 this year and his resume up to his point would justify him as a unique talent. He made amends for Vick.
 

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