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Baksfamous112

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The Dallas Stars have a projected 4.5M cap space next year with only 8F, 6D, and 2G signed. Benn, Duchene, Granlund, Dadonov, Blackwell and Ceci are UFAs and Bourque is a RFA. I expect Granlund, Dadonov, Blackwell and Ceci to be gone on July 1st. I also believe they will make a push to try and re-sign Benn and Duchene.

Even if they are not able to bring back any of their UFAs/RFA, something has to give in Dallas. Who's going to be traded for cap purposes? Is Roope Hintz a candidate to get moved? Robertson? Is there any chance that Seguin lift his NMC and if so, is there any team that will take him on at 9.8M?

Let's say Seguin does agree to waive his NMC, what would be the kind of returns that Dallas would be looking for? If Hintz has to be moved for cap purposes, what kind of return would Dallas be looking for?
 
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BonMorrison said:
Damn, they only have 4.5M next year? Definitely feel like they need to move out some people.
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Yeah, their cap situation isn't great. I looked into it this morning and it seems like Seguin could be a potential cap casualty but if he refuses to waive his NMC I believe Hintz is next in line to move.
 
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We don't really know what's going to happen with Seguin. His hip injuries are certainly the kind that could land him into LTIRetirement. He's reportedly still playing through a fair amount of pain. If that's the case (and if we manage to go all the way this year, that's a distinct possibility), we have no cap issues at all and can maybe even bring back the entire roster as is, with a couple discounts. We won't have any info on this for months, though.

Duchene will likely be back on another crazy discount. He's getting over 6.5M from Nashville again next year. He's building some roots in Dallas, he and his family love the area, and he seems to really enjoy being a part of the team. Another 3M deal (maybe even less? who knows?) isn't out of the question at all.

Benn has already said he will take whatever is leftover, even if it's league minimum.

We'll still have to make a move or two. Marchment and Dumba are the obvious cap casualties. Given the amount of cap space available league-wide, getting picks back for each/both isn't out of the question. Marchment has some real value, Dumba I just want gone for anything. That would clear up over 8M.

Then we just need to re-sign Bourque, Lundkvist, and find some cheap depth forwards.

There's been talk of Robertson being traded, but I don't know if I see that happening yet. He'll probably be highly motivated to have another big year after his slow start due to injury and being in a contract year. I think Nill will want to capitalize on what could be another 40 goal/90-100 point season from him before looking into a trade there. But Robertson will rightfully ask for 11+M per if he hits those numbers. That's a problem for a year from now.

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To summarize... Duchene and Benn seem likely
to return cheap. Marchment and Dumba should get traded as cap casualties. And then it's just filling out the roster with cheap depth.
 
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Doubt Seguin waves. Only teams that will trade for him are teams way under cap and Dallas would have to add a pick
 
I feel like Calgary and Dallas could be ideal trade partners this summer.

Andersson has a very low cap hit for a top 4 defenseman, we also have the room to eat a contract like Dumba... and if Marchment is on his way out, we've also shown we're willing to eat salary if compensated, so something like Coleman to DAL at 50% retained could be of interest to the Stars
 
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I assume Duchene will sign a bigger deal elsewhere. They will maybe pay a draft pick to move Dumba. That gives them more than enough breathing room to fill in the rest of their roster.
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Be a pretty big draft pick, Dumba is cooked.
Regardless, isn't one of the stars strength's quality depth?
Sounds like that will be lessened next year. Their Dcorp wasn't particularly deep , who is there next year after Miro, Harley and Bichelle?
 
bringbacktheskate604 said:
Be a pretty big draft pick, Dumba is cooked.
Regardless, isn't one of the stars strength's quality depth?
Sounds like that will be lessened next year. Their Dcorp wasn't particularly deep , who is there next year after Miro, Harley and Bichelle?
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Lindell and Lyubushkin will stick around.

Harley - Heiskanen
Lindell - Lyubushkin
Bichsel - Lundkvist
Petrovic

My best guess as to what our defense looks like next year.
 
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LT said:
Lindell and Lyubushkin will stick around.

Harley - Heiskanen
Lindell - Lyubushkin
Bichsel - Lundkvist
Petrovic

My best guess as to what our defense looks like next year.
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What are the chances Hintz is made available?
 
bringbacktheskate604 said:
Be a pretty big draft pick, Dumba is cooked.
Regardless, isn't one of the stars strength's quality depth?
Sounds like that will be lessened next year. Their Dcorp wasn't particularly deep , who is there next year after Miro, Harley and Bichelle?
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A Dumba salary dump likely won't cost that much. The cap is exploding, he only makes $3M, and he's a RHD.
 
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Robertson ($7.75M - Hintz ($8.45M) - Rantanen ($12M)
Marchment ($4.5M) - Duchene (UFA) - Seguin ($9.85M)
Benn (UFA) - Johnston ($8.4M) - Bourque (RFA)
Back ($0.825M) - Steel ($2.1M) - Blackwell (UFA)
Hrykowian/Hyry/Plug ($0.870M)

Lindell ($5.25M) - Heiskanen ($8.45M)
Harley ($4M) - Lyubushkin ($3.25M)
Bischel $0.918333M) - Petrovic ($0.775M)
Plug ($0.775M)

Oettinger ($8.25M)
De Smith ($1M)

Suter buyout ($1.4333M)
Dumba buyout ($1.416M)

TOTAL: $90.26263M
2025-26 NHL Cap: $95.5M
REMAINING CAP SPACE: $5.2374M

You could probably get Bourque and Blackwell back for ~$1M each? Leaving around $3M for Duchene and Benn. So that's the main problem. I could MAYBE see either of them taking 1x$3M as a team-friendly gesture, Benn in recognition of service and some good pay over the years, Duchene in recognition that Nashville continues to pay him very nicely as well (although he has already done that a couple years running so maybe time is up on that).

So it's not that dire... losing 1 of Benn/Duchene, or I imagine like others have speculated Marchment could be traded without needing a buyout. I don't think you'll see them go trading core pieces. Buy out Dumba, trade Marchment if both Benn and Duchene take a little less to come back, or shrug and let Benn and Duchene walk if they want top dollar. The Stars can just sit back and pretty much let that play out, I don't think there is any panic needed in that situation? It's not like they're over WITH everybody already signed. :dunno:
 
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Baksfamous112 said:
The Dallas Stars have a projected 4.5M cap space next year with only 8F, 6D, and 2G signed. Benn, Duchene, Granlund, Dadonov, Blackwell and Ceci are UFAs and Bourque is a RFA. I expect Granlund, Dadonov, Blackwell and Ceci to be gone on July 1st. I also believe they will make a push to try and re-sign Benn and Duchene.

Even if they are not able to bring back any of their UFAs/RFA, something has to give in Dallas. Who's going to be traded for cap purposes? Is Roope Hintz a candidate to get moved? Robertson? Is there any chance that Seguin lift his NMC and if so, is there any team that will take him on at 9.8M?

Let's say Seguin does agree to waive his NMC, what would be the kind of returns that Dallas would be looking for? If Hintz has to be moved for cap purposes, what kind of return would Dallas be looking for?
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Seguin has a better chance of LTIRetirement than being traded.

Marchment and Dumba should both be sent packing, and that pretty much solves all issues
 
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Porter Stoutheart said:
Robertson ($7.75M - Hintz ($8.45M) - Rantanen ($12M)
Marchment ($4.5M) - Duchene (UFA) - Seguin ($9.85M)
Benn (UFA) - Johnston ($8.4M) - Bourque (RFA)
Back ($0.825M) - Steel ($2.1M) - Blackwell (UFA)
Hrykowian/Hyry/Plug ($0.870M)

Lindell ($5.25M) - Heiskanen ($8.45M)
Harley ($4M) - Lyubushkin ($3.25M)
Bischel $0.918333M) - Petrovic ($0.775M)
Plug ($0.775M)

Oettinger ($8.25M)
De Smith ($1M)

Suter buyout ($1.4333M)
Dumba buyout ($1.416M)

TOTAL: $90.26263M
2025-26 NHL Cap: $95.5M
REMAINING CAP SPACE: $5.2374M

You could probably get Bourque and Blackwell back for ~$1M each? Leaving around $3M for Duchene and Benn. So that's the main problem. I could MAYBE see either of them taking 1x$3M as a team-friendly gesture, Benn in recognition of service and some good pay over the years, Duchene in recognition that Nashville continues to pay him very nicely as well (although he has already done that a couple years running so maybe time is up on that).

So it's not that dire... losing 1 of Benn/Duchene, or I imagine like others have speculated Marchment could be traded without needing a buyout. I don't think you'll see them go trading core pieces. Buy out Dumba, trade Marchment if both Benn and Duchene take a little less to come back, or shrug and let Benn and Duchene walk if they want top dollar. The Stars can just sit back and pretty much let that play out, I don't think there is any panic needed in that situation? It's not like they're over WITH everybody already signed. :dunno:
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Bourque at under 1mil? I think there's a solid chance that he goes the offer sheet route if there isn't a clear opportunity and solid contract presented to him in Dallas. Up to 4.5mil is only a 2nd in compensation. If a team sees any top-6 potential in him, that's not a hard deal to make with the cap going up and very few quality centers available. Bourque having the opportunity to double/triple his salary AND increase future earnings is an easy bet to make on himself - whether or not he likes it in Dallas.
 
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I don't know about an offersheet. But trading a 2nd for Mavrik Bourque, Dallas might consider it. The team can sign him to a lower deal then.
 
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Bourque isn't eligible to be offersheeted. You have to have 80 career games played and he is at 74.

Assuming Dumba is gone, you'll have 8F, 5D and 2G signed for $77.251 mil. After overages and the Suter buyout, they'll have 16.5 mil to sign Bourque, Nils, three more forwards and depth. Benn is eligible for a 35+ bonus-laden contract, and I could see him on 1 year bonus deals for the rest of his career, like Pavelski did. Bourque and Nils will be quite cheap, so it's not unreasonable to say Dallas will have 12 million to sign Benn, Duchene and one 4th liner.

It'll all come down to whether Duchene wants to go for his last shot at a big contract or stick around a place he and his family are comfortable and are contenders. I wouldn't put it out of the equation that he takes a massive under-market deal to stay in Dallas (or at least one more 1-year deal) - especially with him still getting money from Nashville.
 
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