Post-Game Talk: Dallas Does Skinner

[CycloneSweep]

what's his save % in game 4-7?

So you agree Skinner absolutely shouldn’t be playing tonight, or Friday, or Sunday.
If we play skinner all 3 games we are probably down 3-0.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Oh wow. Skinner has 2 good games all playoffs and 5 below replacement level games.
Your point?

only the 2 most important Games of the season FFS

 

[Pip]

I didn’t think Dallas did anything that would lead me to believe they’ll win this series. Calls will even out they always do just gotta get the next one.

Dallas to me was not impressive in this game whatsoever. However I don’t necessarily think the calls will even out nor will Skinner’s play and we have no one to go to if he falters.

Big thing for me for the players is you need to take out a team when they’re on the ropes. I think back to a few plays where they made the extra pass or the powerplay that lacked urgency. You’re up, you need to put them away.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Agree… just zero compete on the 3rd and 4th goal.

He just lost his mind honestly.

3rd goal he has a clear look above Marchment and Nurse as Heiskanen starts his shot. It’s going generally stick side, Skinner sees that, so instead of going down butterfly, cheating stick side… you know the side that is completely open and where he’d be able to see past the screen? Nope… let me plant my face into the ass of that screen and hope. That’s was just horrible.

And the forth? What a coward… he didn’t even try to get across. Complaining for contact… that was literally 5 seconds ok you kitty cat. Imagine having the opposition block a shot for you and you STILL don’t get across the net for the rebound. Dallas literally could have scored twice on that play.

Ugh, ugh, ugh…. Put me or @tardigrade81 in… at least we have the passion and gumption for it.

Holy hell you're agreeing with me. hehe. I thought I was gonna get tarred when I saw you replied.

I actually said earlier that Skinner was busy sniffing Marchments ass on that play. So ridiculous. All he had to do was look to the side. He's big, he's a giraffe, he refuses to do it. Changes game.

Lets also mention that Skinners D stopped another 3 shots from going in.

Skinner was the difference. For Dallas.

 

[CycloneSweep]

only the 2 most important Games of the season FFS

So you are saying because he played good for 2 games he is allowed to play like an AHL backup for the other ones?

 

[MikeS24]

His stats were still horrific despite shutouts in two of the first 5 games.

I forgot about Dan Cloutier, that is an apt comparison

Shhhhhkina was an 0.884 and 3.05GAA after his 2 shutouts LMAO

I don't know what he is now, but it is less than that

 

[MessierThanThou]

the same goalie had the Stars not score a single PP goal last playoffs

How long will we give him props for that one series when he was either wildly inconsistent to mediocre or outright unplayable for every single other round in his entire postseason career?

All we want is an average goalie. Skinner isn't that. When you're incredible for two games and virtually unplayable for four, those are really, really bad odds.

 

[McAsuno]

Extremely frustrating game to lose especially after going 3-1 into the 3rd period.
I get that our PK hasn't been the greatest, but the goalie has to be the best PKER as he's the last guy to hold the fort down.
It's absolutely tiresome as a fan watching Skinner night after night because he's the definition of Jekyll and Hyde. You never truly know what you're gonna get with this guy in net and that can't happen with 29/97 on this team along with being this deep in the playoffs also. I gave him props for his b2b shutouts against VGK, but he was really God awful tonight. More often than not, he tends to put his hands in the air to complain when a goal goes in on him. Have some f***ing balls and man up, Stu, seriously. I rarely see any other goalie in the league complain as much as he does.

It's rather annoying that when Skinner does suck ass, the Oilers then proceed to look poor defensively when they aren't an actual poor defensive team.
On a side note, the Oilers were the stronger team ES 5on5. Just have to limit those damn penalties and stop giving powerplays to the actual PP merchants in the stars who's been performing only due to their powerplays the whole playoffs.

Get your head out of your ass, Stu. Enough already.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Why not both? Your goalie has to be your best penalty killer often times. The team dominated even strength for the most part, all you ask is that the goalie make a big save or two the few times they do allow high quality chances and it wasn't done tonight. It's not all on Skinner but he's a big reason why they lost tonight.

I mean, he did in the 2 most important games of the season
one period without a "big save" and its " OMG Skinner SUXX!!"

embarrassing

 

[RegDunlop]

Frederic has been a complete waste of a 2nd round pick so far. Sit him and one of Perry or Kapanen and get Skinner and Arvidsson in there.

You can't sit Kap. Playing well. I think Perry knows he was a shit show tonight and will respond.

I liked Frederick's game in Boston.... but what's with this guy? Is he a plug that shined for a year?

 

[MoontoScott]

Yes and no? I guess a bit belongs to the officiating which was inconsistent and decisively advantaged the Stars. I mean I was told that you only get PPs if you control the game 5 on 5. Yet the Stars got crushed for 40 minutes and somehow was rewarded with 3 straight PPs in the 3rd. What magic!

But as much as I want to point out the faults in our team game after the Stars made it 3-2, it fits a greater pattern that also includes Stuart Skinner. This team doesn't trust him an ounce and its clear they get rattled when he starts to fart it up back there. I acknowledge the team should be able to play through that but they've demonstrated last year and this year that they can't. As soon as they have no faith in the guy between the pipes, everything else seems to fall apart. You can't say you haven't been seeing the same thing.

Agreed-- You are not going to get a 10 game hot streak from Stu. The boys seem to sag when they sense that he is in one of his funks which happens every 3rd or 4th game.

 

[Pip]

only the 2 most important Games of the season FFS

Game 6 against LA was arguably more important than 4 and 5 against Vegas but that’s besides the point.

 

[onetweasy]

Connor McDavid gets special treatment from the refs…


It’s just not the good kind of special.

Apparently it’s ok just to lay on top of him until your team leaves the zone.

And this has been the case since he has entered the league.

Why the NHL caters to pests like an Tkachuk over superstar skill players I will never understand.

 

[CycloneSweep]

@CantHaveTkachev You do realize that even with 2 shutouts Skinner is the worst goalie in the playoffs this year right?

 

[Dirk Dangler]

what's his save % in game 4-7?

When you piss away the first three games of a series his better play still isn’t good enough. Re: the finals last year.

 

[The Panther]

The powerplay lacks the killer instinct when up in games. It’s really frustrating

I so miss the 2022-23 Power play, which was not only the best, but the 'hungriest', PP I've ever seen. In that season, the PP-5 were like Jaws seeing a piece of bloody, raw meat floating in the ocean. They just attacked the net and destroyed teams.

Now, they lollygag on the PP whenever they have a lead.

 

[TB12]

How long will we give him props for that one series when he was either wildly inconsistent to mediocre or outright unplayable for every single other round in his entire postseason career?

All we want is an average goalie. Skinner isn't that. When you're incredible for two games and virtually unplayable for four, those are really, really bad odds.

Just no use replying to Stu's dad. Guy is a 1-note poster.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Game 6 against LA was arguably more important than 4 and 5 against Vegas but that’s besides the point.

huh? LA sucks compared to Vegas

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

@CantHaveTkachev You do realize that even with 2 shutouts Skinner is the worst goalie in the playoffs this year right?

so? you realize when those 2 shutouts were right?

 

[MikeS24]

Can you win games with Skinner? Yes. Are you ever going to win because of Skinner? Almost never. You have to play solid in front of him for 60 minutes, you have to be able to kill penalties, and you have to score. The Oilers played a great 2 periods then shit the bed and allowed Skinner to be his old self.

This is why we lost against FLA

Bob just stoned us. Had 2 breakaways off the hop in game 1.

Even against the Leafs game 7, Bob made a breakaway save and a few other big ones when the Leafs only played for 10 min.

Leafs could have went into the 2nd up 2-0.

Skinner will not steal games. He will look good if the team plays well, or he will straight up lose them games

 

[CupofOil]

I mean, he did in the 2 most important games of the season
one period without a "big save" and its " OMG Skinner SUXX!!"

embarrassing

That one period without a big save cost them the game and he's been trash like 90% of this season so maybe that's why folks resort to Skinner sucks? He's statistically and visually been one of the worst goalies in the league. I mean, congrats to him he played two good games when the team limited high danger chances but it still doesn't absolve him of the utter shitshow he's been in most of the other games. That Duchene goal in particular really pissed me off, what in the hell was he even doing there? Moving like an iceberg to the other side, where's the battle level?

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

When you piss away the first three games of a series his better play still isn’t good enough. Re: the finals last year.

let in 2 goals TOTAL in game 6-7
"isn't good enough" lol

 

[Austerlitz]

Most of us believe that. But goaltending like this alone turns what could be an easier series into a much more difficult one. Skinner doing the same thing he did in LA series, and in Vancouver series last year, and in Vegas series that we lost.

The frustration isn't just that we lost the game 1 but the way we lost and Skinner handing the Stars a W. So many times this happens. No other contender team has to overcome their own goalie.

You have to beat the other team, the officiating, and the dud you have in net.

Yeah. Agree with every word of this.

I think what makes Skinner SO cancerous, more than any other goalie I can recall, is it is just not about the consistent weak goals. It is that it never stops with just one. The whole bench sees a bad goal go in and instead of thinking, 'we can get that back' like teams with functioning goaltending do, they think, 'oh f*** here we go' and they're right. The floodgates open and its 4, 5, even 6 in short order. His reset game is non-existent.

If I was coaching against the Oilers, I'd tell my players to just shoot from everywhere. Eventually one is going to go in and then they ALL go in.

 

[McAsuno]

Same old suspects defending Skinner like he's their family member holy f*** lol.
Same old culprits don't realize that nobody is blaming him only for the loss, but he was a huge part of it.

At this point, these culprits must be related to Skinner or Dustin Schwartz. Skinner can crash his car into theirs, and they'd blame the car that Skinner's driving rather than the one who has his hands on the wheel and foot on the pedal.

 

[CycloneSweep]

let in 2 goals TOTAL in game 6-7
"isn't good enough" lol

It doesn’t f***ing matter if you win your team 2 games if you lose your team 3. You are still a loser.