Confirmed Signing with Link: [DAL] D Esa Lindell signs extension with the Stars (5 years, $5.25M AAV)

[Gurglesons]

Huh? He played all 82 the last two seasons, how is he falling apart?

His game has definitely fallen off over the last few years.

I just don't see it with this term being an effective deal.

Especially when his RHD partner is going to be Boosh or Dumba.

Big fails from Dallas this summer IMO.

 

[starsfan86]

His game has definitely fallen off over the last few years.

I just don't see it with this term being an effective deal.

Especially when his RHD partner is going to be Boosh or Dumba.

Big fails from Dallas this summer IMO.

Do you even watch the Stars ever?

 

[crowi]

Looks fair to me.

 

[Gurglesons]

Do you even watch the Stars ever?

Yeah, been a big fan of their squad for years.

Plus West Coast, so they used to play out here a ton.

 

[SEALBound]

I think this is market value at the moment. With rising caps come rising salaries. Can't expect a 2019 salary in a 2024 cap world.

 

[sr edler]

This is the guy who, at various points in his career, made both Ristolainen and Klingberg look like respectable Ds. It almost sounds impossible, but actually happened.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

If you guys dont think he can handle the physicality as he ages, he could just DIVE more. He's good at that.

 

[Frozen Failure]

That's the price of a good second pair anchor. Decent point production, good PKing, good positioning, maybe a little light on physicality but could be worse.

Going to eventually be hard to replace him.

 

[TGWL]

I think it should be capped at 15 when it comes to non-full clauses. 20 just seems too much.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

He's already falling apart and plays the exact game that players like him just become unusable at 32.

95000 posts and still dropping gems like this...

 

[jonlin]

A defensive D, who actually can defend. Not too physical, but good at positioning. Yearly about 25p and a + player. Pair him with a offensive defenceman and you have a good 2nd pairing. Solid deal.

 

[LemonSauceD]

He's already falling apart and plays the exact game that players like him just become unusable at 32.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

This feels about 1-1.5 million less than he could have gotten as a UFA

 

[dgibb10]

He's good at hockey

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

By the time this deal kicks in, the cap will be 88 million. This deal will be 5.9% of Dallas' cap space.

The flat cap from the last few years has really broken some brains on this site. That's a perfectly fine deal for an important player for Dallas.

Nikita Zadorov got 5 mil per season. Brenden Dillon got 4 mil per. I don't want to hear that this is some bad contract lol

Err the cap already is $88M.

By the time the deal kicks in it'll be more like $92M+.

 

[Pestilence]

Chiarot sucks.

The Lindell deal isn't horrible. but seems unnecessary.

How is it unnecessary, so should they just play out the season and let him walk, or see what he gets as a FA and offer something afterwards? What is the correct path going from here, if he does not sign for less at the moment?

 

[Dr Pepper]

Err the cap already is $88M.

By the time the deal kicks in it'll be more like $92M+.

Cap going up by $4+ mil next year?

Would definitely love to see it.

 

[The Tourist]

The guy is a rock on the back end and always healthy. Plays huge PK minutes and is a vital piece to the Dallas defense. Nothing wrong with this deal, especially with the cap going up.

Quality 2nd pairing dman.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Top 4 defensemen are expensive.

As he slows down the cap will be up.

Goodison deal.

 

[Zman5778]

Knee-jerk reaction is to say that it's a pretty solid deal for both sides. More term than I thought Lindell would get, but also a lower AAV.

Should work out well. Maybe that 5th year is a bit sketchy depending on how Lindell ages, but nothing awful.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Cap going up by $4+ mil next year?

Would definitely love to see it.

Cap will be going up by 5% regularly for at least another three years or so.

Cap is based on HRR. HRR has continued to increase since COVID, but the cap hasn't. Now that the players' debt is paid off, the cap has to catch up to the HRR.

But they put a ceiling on the annual increase because obviously raising the cap $15M in one year would be a bad idea. That batch of FAs would sign absurd contracts and f*** up the entire market.

 

[BKarchitect]

I mean this is exactly the Adam Larsson extension. Lindell is a year younger so he got one more year of term. Heck, it’s pretty much the Pesce deal as well. These are all virtually the same contracts. They are all around 5.25/5.50 AAV and all run to about age 35.

Analytics and fancy graphs hate guys like Larsson and Lindell because they don’t generate much offense but if you got a defenseman like this, you appreciate it…and if you don’t, you are always searching for one.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Probably a year too long but that's a perfectly fine deal

I mean this is exactly the Adam Larsson extension. Lindell is a year younger so he got one more year of term. Same AAV, IIRC - just 5 years for a 30 year old instead of 4 for a 31 year old.

Analytics and fancy graphs hate guys like Larsson and Lindell because they don’t generate much offense but if you got a defenseman like this, you appreciate it…and if you don’t, you are always searching for one.

Yup they're the opposite of exciting but make a difference especially in playoffs, Larsson could have gotten 5x6 on the open market imo and probably Lindell too

 

[Dr Pepper]

Cap will be going up by 5% regularly for at least another three years or so.

Cap is based on HRR. HRR has continued to increase since COVID, but the cap hasn't. Now that the players' debt is paid off, the cap has to catch up to the HRR.

But they put a ceiling on the annual increase because obviously raising the cap $15M in one year would be a bad idea. That batch of FAs would sign absurd contracts and f*** up the entire market.

They could still raise the cap as needed and just adjust whatever percentage the max per player is.....what is it now, around 15%?

 

[bossram]

How is it unnecessary, so should they just play out the season and let him walk, or see what he gets as a FA and offer something afterwards? What is the correct path going from here, if he does not sign for less at the moment?

Yeah