Signing(s): Dak Prescott signs gargantuan contract extension

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JimmyApples

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Why is this contract so hated when he's far better than everyone else who got a big one this offseason? Cowboys issues don't boil down to Dak.
People don’t realize how the NFL cap works, or understand good QB play in football.

On another note:

“The Cowboys have reworked the contract of right tackle Terence Steele, opening up $4.5 million in salary cap space. Add that to cap space saved on Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb contracts this year to the money that will most likely be carried over to 2025 ($20m+)”

To everyone saying goodbye Micah, Dak and Ceedee’s extensions actually saved Cowboys cap space, which will roll over to next season, where Micah will get paid.
 
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Dak isn't perfect but I dont think this deserves the criticism its getting.

Where else are you going to find a franchise QB?

Why is this contract so hated when he's far better than everyone else who got a big one this offseason? Cowboys issues don't boil down to Dak.

Cause it's the Cowboys, much like the Maple Leafs people just love to rag on them and criticize everything they do.
 
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Dak isn't perfect but I dont think this deserves the criticism its getting.

Where else are you going to find a franchise QB?



Cause it's the Cowboys, much like the Maple Leafs people just love to rag on them and criticize everything they do.
Yep like there isn't a better option at quarterback to realistically look to to maximize their roster and he's one of the smartest and well versed within the sport in the game. Plus while the NFL cap is no myth its extremely malluable and Dallas will be able to pay all of the needed pieces.
 
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Yep like there isn't a better option at quarterback to realistically look to to maximize their roster and he's one of the smartest and well versed within the sport in the game. Plus while the NFL cap is no myth its extremely malluable and Dallas will be able to pay all of the needed pieces.
You can keep pushing charges into the future so long as the player is on the roster. Saints have done that for many many years. SF doing it now, but between age of their guys and Purdy's next contract, going to have to cut bait on a couple of guys soon.

They have to massage in the $40 mill from the current contract that was pushed into 2025 and later. Kind of why it was very disappointing the past couple of seasons when they didn't go anywhere in the PO.
 
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You can keep pushing charges into the future so long as the player is on the roster. Saints have done that for many many years. SF doing it now, but between age of their guys and Purdy's next contract, going to have to cut bait on a couple of guys soon.

They have to massage in the $40 mill from the current contract that was pushed into 2025 and later. Kind of why it was very disappointing the past couple of seasons when they didn't go anywhere in the PO.
The playoff issues had nothing to do with their lack of spending room really.
 
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Yep like there isn't a better option at quarterback to realistically look to to maximize their roster and he's one of the smartest and well versed within the sport in the game. Plus while the NFL cap is no myth its extremely malluable and Dallas will be able to pay all of the needed pieces.

We heard every offseason in the latter half of Brees' career that the Saints were in cap hell and they were still able to make moves.
 

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You can keep pushing charges into the future so long as the player is on the roster. Saints have done that for many many years. SF doing it now, but between age of their guys and Purdy's next contract, going to have to cut bait on a couple of guys soon.

They have to massage in the $40 mill from the current contract that was pushed into 2025 and later. Kind of why it was very disappointing the past couple of seasons when they didn't go anywhere in the PO.
Bills took their medicine this year. It's strange how people think you can manipulate the cap forever. You can't.
 

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Bills took their medicine this year. It's strange how people think you can manipulate the cap forever. You can't.
Like I said, so long as the player is on the roster. Bills moved off Diggs, thus the bill came due. Same with Minny and the $28 mill for Cousins. ATL with Ryan and his $40 mill. PHI with Wentz. Seattle with Russ as well.

You have to eat dead cap on the remaining signing bonuses and any restructures that have not been allocated (and any future guarantees that are not offset by another team). Every dollar a team pays a player will ultimately hit their salary cap. Just a question of when.
 

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Like I said, so long as the player is on the roster. Bills moved off Diggs, thus the bill came due. Same with Minny and the $28 mill for Cousins. ATL with Ryan and his $40 mill. PHI with Wentz. Seattle with Russ as well.

You have to eat dead cap on the remaining signing bonuses and any restructures that have not been allocated (and any future guarantees that are not offset by another team). Every dollar a team pays a player will ultimately hit their salary cap. Just a question of when.
Yes, the thing is that if you keep the player on the roster until the contract ends, you'll still be eating that giant last year cap hit, that they almost always have. Like you said, there's no way to avoid eventually paying the piper. The smart way is to try to plan it so you can eat most of it in a single year.
 

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Yes, the thing is that if you keep the player on the roster until the contract ends, you'll still be eating that giant last year cap hit, that they almost always have. Like you said, there's no way to avoid eventually paying the piper. The smart way is to try to plan it so you can eat most of it in a single year.
Rams and Bucs took a monster bath (accounting term) in 2023 yet both made the PO. Something like $70 mill each of dead cap.
 
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Like I said, so long as the player is on the roster. Bills moved off Diggs, thus the bill came due. Same with Minny and the $28 mill for Cousins. ATL with Ryan and his $40 mill. PHI with Wentz. Seattle with Russ as well.

You have to eat dead cap on the remaining signing bonuses and any restructures that have not been allocated (and any future guarantees that are not offset by another team). Every dollar a team pays a player will ultimately hit their salary cap. Just a question of when.

Vikings are taking their medicine this with like 63m in dead cap (Cousins, Hunter and Davenport void years, Cook release, Cine release) but next year will be in really good shape with only like 5-6m and more than half of that is from Cine.

(I see there eating 6 figure cap hits for Khyree Jackson the next couple years. There has to be some exception if a player dies you'd think? I know they paid his signing bonus to his estate but still.)
 

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Vikings are taking their medicine this with like 63m in dead cap (Cousins, Hunter and Davenport void years, Cook release, Cine release) but next year will be in really good shape with only like 5-6m and more than half of that is from Cine.

(I see there eating 6 figure cap hits for Khyree Jackson the next couple years. There has to be some exception if a player dies you'd think? I know they paid his signing bonus to his estate but still.)
You can eat the dead cap over 2 years or 1. The Post June 1 designation is over 2 years, pre June 1 is one year. Seattle opted to eat all of Jamal Adams dead cap in 2024. Same as the Cards with DHop last year. You can split it over 2 years and if you have say $10 mill in cap space in the current year, that pushes over to next season thus, virtually a net $0 effect if that's roughly the amount of dead cap the following season. Most teams opt to do it over 2 years as it gives clubs more options.
 

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It does come due, but the massive cap increases in recent years have worked to ease any real problems for many teams. Predictions of disaster have been erased by league revenue gains beyond any expectations.

But the cap going up doesn't mean there aren't any cap headaches. Even with Dak, him being a 4th rounder meant his rookie deal was super cheap, but the Cowboys didn't really gain any special benefit from Dak being cheap because Romo's salary and dead cap hits were expensive. They were still spending real cap money on the QB position even if Dak got none of it.
 

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