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WJC: U18 D1A, 20-26.04, Szekesfehervar, Hungary

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I read somewhere on this site that Kaz has good 2007/2008. generation, did everyone show up or some of them are "saving" themselves for another NT ?
 
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bv29 said:
I read somewhere on this site that Kaz has good 2007/2008. generation, did everyone show up or some of them are "saving" themselves for another NT ?
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Yeah, unfortunately, Yan Melnikov has already played for Russia U18 in whatever tournaments they play and Ivan Mullerov also is not at the camp. CHLer Kornei Korneyev is still busy with playoffs in Canada, so he will probably miss the tournament. So.... it isn't looking too promising.

Final team probably will have a ton of 08's on it. Couple of days ago they mauled Hungary 6:1, final score flattered Magyars as it could have been double digits and their only goal was scored on PS, basically Kazakhstan was swarming them. I missed the game against Austrians (not sure it was streamed anywhere) and Kazakhstan lost 4:6. So overall a mixed bag and not knowing what Austria and Denmark and ''black horse'' Ukraine will show us, I say this tournament fair game for all these teams.
 
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Hoping for a good showing from Ukraine, Kosarev and Haponenko will age out after this year, so would be nice to go out with a gold. Will be interested to see Klym Luchkin play, 15 year old went ppg in U18 Slovakia and played 2 games in the U20. Not the strongest league but still, someone to keep an eye out for as a youngster.
 
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Melnikov is already listed as RUS/KAZ, while Mullerov is still KAZ only per EP, so maybe there is a chance for him in the future....after his dream of playing for Russia vanishes....
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I can assure you, these flags on EP mean very little. That said Russia is banned and they can't play in an official tournaments that would cap-tie to Russian NT, so technically there are no obstacles to them coming back into KZ fold in future which, of course, is unlikely.
 
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Warning - I paid IIHF TV for D2A and streams have tendency to crack during game(s), sometimes they die completely, so you need to restart whole thing. My specs aren't a problem since I have 16gb ram and SSD with Ryzen 5.
 
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Yeah for sure, go big or go home! I know they have a mostly different team this year than last's silver medal team, no Levshyn will be tough (don't know these goalies they have) but always optimistic, lol.
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You seem knowledgeable, it the final roster available somewhere?
 
ozo said:
You seem knowledgeable, it the final roster available somewhere?
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Yeah a bit knowledgeable I guess, haven't seen these kids play other than national team tho. FHU posted it on their Instagram a little while back, I think it matches what's on eliteprosects.



Naibochenko is probably the starter, my guess for best skaters would probably be Haponenko, Kosarev, Shybinskyi, Melnychenko, Sukhytskyi.
 
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Oh ok, so the final cuts are yet to be announced. Really sucks that Daniel Skyba is not there, it seemed that he committed to the Ukraine team at YOG, but now that he is not there I'm worried again.
 
Yeah now that you mention it, a little strange he wasn't included. Maybe he had a conflict with playoffs or something, but either way I'd imagine he'd be on the U18s next year.
 
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Yeah now that you mention it, a little strange he wasn't included. Maybe he had a conflict with playoffs or something, but either way I'd imagine he'd be on the U18s next year.
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I hear what you say, but in Europe it is pretty much unheard of that kid is not allowed to join NT for the sake of playoffs in Junior leagues. Unless it also is player's wish... :/
 
ozo said:
I hear what you say, but in Europe it is pretty much unheard of that kid is not allowed to join NT for the sake of playoffs in Junior leagues. Unless it also is player's wish... :/
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Yeah makes sense, I don't know too much about how Jr leagues work in Europe for NT. Fair enough, hopefully just a dumb oversight on Ukraine's management then.
 
The Ukrainian U17s beat Latvia U17s A/B and held a very close game against Slovakia as well.

I expect them to be competing for promotion, as crazy as that may sound.
 
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I hear what you say, but in Europe it is pretty much unheard of that kid is not allowed to join NT for the sake of playoffs in Junior leagues. Unless it also is player's wish... :/
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I am not sure if clubs are obligated to release players for U18 if they are still in the playoffs. Maybe that's the reason why Mullerov is not on Kazak's roster, since Chaika is still in the MHL playoffs. Back in the day Rendulić wasn't even an option for Croatian U18 since his Assat was competing in the post season. I know that from first hand.
 
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I am not sure if clubs are obligated to release players for U18 if they are still in the playoffs. Maybe that's the reason why Mullerov is not on Kazak's roster, since Chaika is still in the MHL playoffs. Back in the day Rendulić wasn't even an option for Croatian U18 since his Assat was competing in the post season. I know that from first hand.
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You are right, but then again Rendulic was so above his U18 team level, it sort of seems logical, even setting aside how early in spring Croatia U18 was forced to play in relation to the end of hockey season in Europe. Also I want to be wrong about Miller, trust me :)
 
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ozo said:
Final team probably will have a ton of 08's on it.
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I forgot this is Kazakhstan we are talking about. :( Couple of baffling cuts, couple of total passengers. Still a decent team that can win this thing, but I'll be simply hoping that real prospects like Bolatov, Makysh has a good showing.
 
ozo said:
Anyone aware whether this tournament will be streamed somewhere on youtube?
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Doesn't matter anymore - I'm now 6 EUR poorer.


Yikes, Both goalies not looking stellar early on in DEN - AUT game. Oh well, at least my ''investment" is paying off. :D
 
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Well, 5-1 Ukraine over Hungary with a bit left in the 3rd. Ukraine has controlled most of the game so to be expected.
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Ukraine totally dominant with almost 60 SOG, and Hungary scored pretty much from their only clear chance. And you were right about goalkeeping - nobody can really play at the level Levshyn demonstrated last year . Oleksienko did not look confidence inspiring at all when the puck was near him, so he might cost them dearly in next games when opposition will be much more serious.
 
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I want my 6 EUR back. Kazakhstan looks like complete crap somehow. I'll blame the coaching because it helps me sleep.
 
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