HF Habs: Current Standings Thread: Going the Wright Way - Top 7 pick Clinched!

[MarkovsKnee]

This is it! Season is almost done. Final 10 games. Last game is Friday, April 29th vs Florida at home.

The Standings as of April 20th:

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[McGees]

An Ottawa win and then a pissed off Winnipeg team wanting to bounce back tomorrow against us would be nice.

 

[McPhees Moustache]

An Ottawa win and then a pissed off Winnipeg team wanting to bounce back tomorrow against us would be nice.

Not looking good….

 

[McGees]

Not looking good….

Nope, I forgot that Ottawa blows.

 

[WeThreeKings]

No tank help tonight. At least this keeps the vague Jets playoff hopes alive so they compete hard tomorrow.

 

[le_sean]

What an absurd season. 8 really pitiful teams that have no business even showing up most nights.

 

[Frankenheimer]

I don’t understand why in the world you have MORE chances to pick lower than your final rank. The lottery is a s**** show and the NHL is a freaking joke. It shouldn only count the top 10 and with lower odds

What is a joke is having a draft that is reverse order to standings. Oh we must feel pity for the last placed team boohoo here is a generational talent. If they don’t fix this problem soon the league will be a joke. Even with the lottery and reduced chances of winning compared to years past, the last placed team still gets an advantage by picking higher than other teams that don’t win lottery and only moving down a limited number of spots. The fact is that if you make it that teams 1-8 are ordered based on a straight lottery (drawing 8 balls from a bin), this theater of the absurd would end. I think we’re the only team in the garbage zone who has made a sincere attempt at improving our play. And let’s face it, if this was 2023, firing Ducharme would have been a huge mistake.

 

[Andrewcoursol]

Getting the right guy is probably more important for us then getting more darts so I'm not sure I do it unless I'm very confidant that "my" guy will still be on board. Which for me personally is one of the D, which is actually a possibility especially if there's a surprise pick like Lambert/Kemell.

Since the NYR under Gorton traded up a few times, perhaps the better question is do we flip our two 1sts to move up?

I offer next years 1st with calgarys 1st this year to try and get a second top 5 overall pick this year in Montreal besides the Hans have plenty of pics and should go for quality not quantity of pics.

 

[le_sean]

fffffffff…Ottawa had like 5 legit chances to tie it with the empty net.

 

[bsl]

Finishing 3rd doesn't prevent us from winning the lottery either, if you look at the last few years, it's most likely the team finishing 32nd won't have the 1st overall after the lottery.

I see this again and again here. Bad Logic. The only thing that counts is the odds this year. Past results have zero to do with it. The lower you finish, the higher your chances of winning the lottery. That year. End of.

 

[Rockomax]

Doesn't look good for tomorrow with Flanders out and a tired Jets team. Will need Montembeault to work his magic.

 

[bsl]

You see MSL we tried to tell you that you were way overplaying Allen and by doing so you broke him from facing all these shots. I still don't see why playing him every game was necessary at this point but what do I know.

And his trade vaulue this summer might also be f***ed if this is serious.

 

[Tanknation]

I offer next years 1st with calgarys 1st this year to try and get a second top 5 overall pick this year in Montreal besides the Hans have plenty of pics and should go for quality not quantity of pics.

No way. Top 3 next year are elite and a chance to miss out on Bedard? Hell no. Easy pass.

 

[le_sean]

Doesn't look good for tomorrow with Flanders out and a tired Jets team. Will need Montembeault to work his magic.

At the same time, winning tonight gives them the false impression that they might still make the playoffs.

 

[rahad]

And his trade vaulue this summer might also be f***ed if this is serious.

Is MSL trying to win multiple games so he can negociate better his next contract?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

We have 10 games left:

-vs Jets: W
-vs Jackets: L
-vs Islanders: L
-vs Capitals: L
-vs Wild: W
-vs Flyers: W
-vs Sens: L
-vs Boston: L
-vs Rangers: W
-vs Panthers: L

I think we finish 2nd last if we only win 4 games of 10 games.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Is MSL trying to win multiple games so he can negociate better his next contract?

I think management wants to build a winning culture, and that s a way to show it. Another possibility is that they want to put Allen on display so that he can be traded at
the draft…

 

[Kimota]

What is a joke is having a draft that is reverse order to standings. Oh we must feel pity for the last placed team boohoo here is a generational talent. If they don’t fix this problem soon the league will be a joke. Even with the lottery and reduced chances of winning compared to years past, the last placed team still gets an advantage by picking higher than other teams that don’t win lottery and only moving down a limited number of spots. The fact is that if you make it that teams 1-8 are ordered based on a straight lottery (drawing 8 balls from a bin), this theater of the absurd would end. I think we’re the only team in the garbage zone who has made a sincere attempt at improving our play. And let’s face it, if this was 2023, firing Ducharme would have been a huge mistake.

In a perfect World, the first pick should never have gone to the last place team or even the worst teams. It's rewarding mediocrity. You should build a winner by yourself. And the one that gets the pick in a league-wide lottery is just the lucky one. I would be even fine to do that from now on say in 2023(cause now a lot of teams like the Habs have dismantled their team cause they knew they would not win so it would be unfair to them).

However the thing that I like about the concept of bad teams getting a chance at the first pick(or any other high picks) is that it helps teams to sort of don't lose time and effort at winning now and plan a rebuild or reset with the best example being the Rangers. At the same time the better teams get extra help with veteran roster players so the teams helping each other out in a way.

 

[Montreal Impact FC]

We need a few demoralizing losses that make us feel nothing but despair

Nah not really.. ill take losses with caufield/suzuki goals/assists . cause at this point what you are saying would mean no suzuki no caufield.. at that point I wouldnt even care watching the games.

 

[FrankMTL]

Nah not really.. ill take losses with caufield/suzuki goals/assists . cause at this point what you are saying would mean no suzuki no caufield.. at that point I wouldnt even care watching the games.

That's pretty much the only reason I still watch (a little)

 

[Rapala]

Yeah...too much stock are being made about having the highest pick, most concentrate of picking the right guy either it's at 1st or 25th overall.

Still can't figure out how in the hell we got Caufield at 15......

The thing with a number one over all the right guy IS on the board.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Is MSL trying to win multiple games so he can negociate better his next contract?

I don't think trying to loose is within him. Simple as that. He'll refuse to sign if we start to mingle with how he will coach and I would not blame him.

 

[Andrewcoursol]

No way. Top 3 next year are elite and a chance to miss out on Bedard? Hell no. Easy pass.

I suggest it because under MSL the habs record is more like a team contending for the final playoff spot or at least outside the bottom 10 in the overall standings, are you ok with trading this years calgary pick and floridas first next year in order to move up into the top 6 for 2 picks or save floridas pick and package 2nd and 3rd rounders with the flames pic to get a more desired pick while making a splash at the draft?

 

[Habs Halifax]

That's pretty much the only reason I still watch (a little)

I have higher standards for you based on what I have seen from you. You should always watch a lot no matter the outcome. I miss a lot of games live but always record them to watch when I get home. You can speed through a game by fast forwarding through commercials and intermission. Takes about 1.5 hours max.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I suggest it because under MSL the habs record is more like a team contending for the final playoff spot or at least outside the bottom 10 in the overall standings, are you ok with trading this years calgary pick and floridas first next year in order to move up into the top 6 for 2 picks or save floridas pick and package 2nd and 3rd rounders with the flames pic to get a more desired pick while making a splash at the draft?

I believe the start date with MLS is Feb 10th and since that time, we are 12-11-4 and that winning% would put us 21st in the NHL. Take away the 1st 3 games where we lost with MSL and it's a bubble team yeah.

If we apply that winning% (.519) to the last 10 games... it puts us somewhere around 61 or 62 pts (lets say 62 pts).
* Coyotes need to play .650% to get to 62 pts (6 or 7 wins out of 10 games)
* Kraken need to play .500% to get to 62 pts (5 wins out of 10 games)
* Devils need to play .300% to get to 62 pts (3 wins out of 10 games)
* Flyers need to play .250% to get to 62 pts (3 or 4 wins out of 10 games)
* Sens need to play .200% to get to 62 pts (2 wins out of 10 games)

Habs also likely loose the tie breaker with our RW wins but hard to project how the W's and L's end up (OT or not) during those last 10 games.

If I'm forced to bet, I'm saying 3rd last (pre lottery)

 

[Benstheman]

We have 10 games left:

-vs Jets: W
-vs Jackets: L
-vs Islanders: L
-vs Capitals: L
-vs Wild: W
-vs Flyers: W
-vs Sens: L
-vs Boston: L
-vs Rangers: W
-vs Panthers: L

I think we finish 2nd last if we only win 4 games of 10 games.

I think we finish 30th and draft 1st or 4th.