NASCAR: Cup/XFINITY/CWTS Seasonal thread/ news/notes etc:

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could there be trouble brewing at Live Fast Motorsports (Cup/78)?

BJ McLeod may be fired and or released at the end of 2022 which also calls into question the future of BJ McLeod Motorsports as Josh Williams' reason for his abrupt departure from the 78 have come to light; it is now being reported that Matt Tifft may take the charter solely due to equipment issues;

Williams will return to DGM Racing SPLITTING the 36 W/ Alex Labbe pending the sponsorship there as well as the 92
 

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XFINITY: Wawa 250 from Daytona International Speedway Friday Night @ 7:30 on USA;

Pole: CANCELLED (weather) P1 awarded to 16-Allmendinger as points leader;

Stage 1: (30);54-Gibbs;

Stage 2: (30/60);9-Gragson;

Stage 3: (49/109);51-Clements;

weather hold since 7:30; NASCAR intends to start @ 10:30
 
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Zane Smith renews contract w/ Front Row Motorsports; 3RD limited Cup entry; XFINITY Partnership

23XI withdraws medical waiver requirement to keep the 45 car playoff eligible; 45 team remains in battle for owners' championship; but is now eliminated from drivers' championship eligibility
 
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Cup: Coke Zero Sugar 400 from Daytona International Speedway Sunday AM @10:05 ON CNBC

Pole: Cancelled (weather) P1 AWARDED TO 5-Larson

Stage 1: (35);22-Logano;

Stage 2: (65/95);18-Kyle Busch;

Stage 3: (65/160);3-Austin Dillon;

DATE/TIME/Network Change weather (NBC is replaying 2015 Cup race); race halted for a 3 hr 19 min delay w/ 21 to go
 
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Greg Ives officially to end role at Hendrick/JRM AFTER stepping in for Knaus w/ the 48 at the end of 2022, ending 17 yr stint as crew chief;

2023 WILL ALSO BE the diamond anniversary for NASCAR (75)
 

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SMITHFIELD and Aric Almirola reverse course; multi year agreement; Almirola now full time past 2022; Smithfield ups agreement funding wise to 2018 level; Almirola announced previously that 2022 would be his final full time season as a driver
 

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Karma for the #11 and #19 for the stunt they pulled at the end of S2 to help Truex. The 11 had a vibration and the 19 got into an accident.

What happen to NASCAR 100% rule they implanted after MWR tried to help out Truex (ironic isn't it) get into the playoffs by having Bowyer spin out.

"NASCAR requires its competitors to race at 100 percent of their ability with the goal of achieving their best possible finishing position in an event," NASCAR president Mike Helton said, quoting the new rule. "Any competitor who takes action with the intent to artificially alter the finishing positions of the event or encourages, persuades or induces others to artificially alter the finishing position of the event shall be subject to a penalty from NASCAR.

"Artificially altered shall be defined as actions by any competitor that show or suggest that the competitor did not race at 100 percent of their ability for the purpose of changing finishing positions in the event at NASCAR's sole discretion."

Denny said on his radio he'd help Truex, they have the video and data evidence to show Denny was not competing at 100% as well. I expect NASCAR to do nothing though
 

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Karma for the #11 and #19 for the stunt they pulled at the end of S2 to help Truex. The 11 had a vibration and the 19 got into an accident.

What happen to NASCAR 100% rule they implanted after MWR tried to help out Truex (ironic isn't it) get into the playoffs by having Bowyer spin out.

"NASCAR requires its competitors to race at 100 percent of their ability with the goal of achieving their best possible finishing position in an event," NASCAR president Mike Helton said, quoting the new rule. "Any competitor who takes action with the intent to artificially alter the finishing positions of the event or encourages, persuades or induces others to artificially alter the finishing position of the event shall be subject to a penalty from NASCAR.

"Artificially altered shall be defined as actions by any competitor that show or suggest that the competitor did not race at 100 percent of their ability for the purpose of changing finishing positions in the event at NASCAR's sole discretion."

Denny said on his radio he'd help Truex, they have the video and data evidence to show Denny was not competing at 100% as well. I expect NASCAR to do nothing though
19 missed by three spots in 26 events, it had nothing to do with race 26 stage 2, all the 19 did was gain 22 points the deficit was 25, provided there was no new winner outside the top 30.... Truex would've advanced had a previous winner won, not someone outside the top 30.... had the 2 of Cindric won; the 12 and 19 ARE IN
 

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19 missed by three spots in 26 events, it had nothing to do with race 26 stage 2, all the 19 did was gain 22 points the deficit was 25, provided there was no new winner outside the top 30.... Truex would've advanced had a previous winner won, not someone outside the top 30.... had the 2 of Cindric won; the 12 and 19 ARE IN

MWR tried to pull a similar stunt. They lost their sponsors and folded the organization. The 100% rule was implemented because of it. Don't care about the other 26 races, they broke a rule and basically admitted so on the radio.
 

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MWR tried to pull a similar stunt. They lost their sponsors and folded the organization. The 100% rule was implemented because of it. Don't care about the other 26 races, they broke a rule and basically admitted so on the radio.
not a stunt.... the point is where did the three points the 19 didn't get in 26 races and that's got NOTHING to do with the any rule....

MWR tried to pull a similar stunt. They lost their sponsors and folded the organization. The 100% rule was implemented because of it. Don't care about the other 26 races, they broke a rule and basically admitted so on the radio.
so are u telling me all 4 JGR cars and both 23XI Cars are shutting down because they broke a rule.... you do realize Hamlin owns 23XI racing correct, and isn't involved in the 19 getting stage points
 

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not a stunt.... the point is where did the three points the 19 didn't get in 26 races and that's got NOTHING to do with the any rule....


so are u telling me all 4 JGR cars and both 23XI Cars are shutting down because they broke a rule.... you do realize Hamlin owns 23XI racing correct, and isn't involved in the 19 getting stage points

No what I'm saying is they broke the 100% rule NASCAR implemented. You know what happened when MWR did it aside from they losing everything because their sponsors didn't want to be associated with the scandal? They were fined 300k, Ty Norris was suspended indefinitely and the 3 other CC's were put on probation for the remainder of the season. Oh and Truex was removed from the Chase for the Cup. In this case it didn't end up helping Truex, but that's not the point. The point is they broke a rule and there needs to be some form of punishment.

As for Hamlin's involvement, did you actually watch the race? On the broadcast they had Hamlin on radio saying he'd help Truex. At the end of the stage Truex was behind Hamlin and Hamlin moved up to jumped out of line in order to let Truex take the 2nd place spot. He then got off the throttle to slowdown the top lane. Logano realizing what was happening tried to pass Hamlin on the outside. Between stages the broadcast team then laid out exactly what Denny did to help Truex gain points.
 

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No what I'm saying is they broke the 100% rule NASCAR implemented. You know what happened when MWR did it aside from they losing everything because their sponsors didn't want to be associated with the scandal? They were fined 300k, Ty Norris was suspended indefinitely and the 3 other CC's were put on probation for the remainder of the season. Oh and Truex was removed from the Chase for the Cup. In this case it didn't end up helping Truex, but that's not the point. The point is they broke a rule and there needs to be some form of punishment.

As for Hamlin's involvement, did you actually watch the race? On the broadcast they had Hamlin on radio saying he'd help Truex. At the end of the stage Truex was behind Hamlin and Hamlin moved up to jumped out of line in order to let Truex take the 2nd place spot. He then got off the throttle to slowdown the top lane. Logano realizing what was happening tried to pass Hamlin on the outside. Between stages the broadcast team then laid out exactly what Denny did to help Truex gain points.
has absolutely nothing to do with your post.... Blaney had a 25 point advantage going in. Truex gained 22 stage points or 9 as Hamlin let him pass him at the end of Stage 2, there is no punishment because NASCAR didn't deem Hamlin's move as intentional, NBC doesn't care nor explains everything correctly either there are no team orders nor conspiracy theories

where were the three points or positions Truex needed in the 26 races to get him in.... otherwise had the 45 not withdrawn the waiver the 3 doesn't get in nor does anyone who had previously won or in the top 30 that hadn't won..... Truex would've advanced if a previous race winner as Cindric was up to the final restart had won the race.... the 19 is in....otherwise can you explain where those 3 positions were up to then
 

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has absolutely nothing to do with your post.... Blaney had a 25 point advantage going in. Truex gained 22 stage points or 9 as Hamlin let him pass him at the end of Stage 2, there is no punishment because NASCAR didn't deem Hamlin's move as intentional, NBC doesn't care nor explains everything correctly either there are no team orders nor conspiracy theories

where were the three points or positions Truex needed in the 26 races to get him in.... otherwise had the 45 not withdrawn the waiver the 3 doesn't get in nor does anyone who had previously won or in the top 30 that hadn't won..... Truex would've advanced if a previous race winner as Cindric was up to the final restart had won the race.... the 19 is in....otherwise can you explain where those 3 positions were up to then

If NASCAR doesn't deem the move intentional then they are burying their head in the sand LMAO. Driver on the radio is reminded of the points situation and said driver says he'll help the #19. It just so happens that at the end of the stage the 11 (for logical reason) moved over to let the 19 by and then slowed down the top lane.

Nothing intentional about that though, just a crazy coincidence I guess LMAO.

At the end of the day karma ended up winning as Truex missed by 3pts and Hamlin watched from the 23xi pit box.
 
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