The Iconoclast said:What a load of crap. Sounds like a bitter agent and nothing more. Who are making the most in endorsements right now? A Toronto Maple Leaf? A New York Ranger? How about a Calgary Flame and a Vancopuver Canuck. Yup, you GOTTA be in a big market to make endorsements. Facts prove otherwise. What a freakin' idiot.
I in the Eye said:If someone is, however, in the market to purchase hockey equipment or have his/her muffler fixed, having Crosby attached to a specific product will perhaps influence someone to choose the hockey equipment or muffler repair service that Crosby endorses - assuming that the someone actually likes and respects Crosby and his opinion...
Can't let those little things like facts get in the way.Splatman Phanutier said:But the NHL player leading in $ endorsments plays in Calgary
The Iconoclast said:What a load of crap. Sounds like a bitter agent and nothing more. Who are making the most in endorsements right now? A Toronto Maple Leaf? A New York Ranger? How about a Calgary Flame and a Vancopuver Canuck. Yup, you GOTTA be in a big market to make endorsements. Facts prove otherwise. What a freakin' idiot.
What does in tell you when TSN from Canada is running around New York looking for hockey fans and no one from the media in New York is?Digger12 said:The thing that sticks with me is watching TSN tonight, and they're interviewing 'hockey fans' on the streets of New York. It was pretty much like this (except for one guy):
Reporter: Are you a hockey fan?
Fan: Oh yeah...
Reporter: Who is Sidney Crosby?
Fan: *blank stare*
shakes said:Even Crosby's agent says the same thing. Given a choice, I'll believe the guys who actually market people for a living over a couple of posters on a hockey bulletin board.
NYIsles1 said:How many endorsements did Leetch, Richter, Potvin, Bossy, Trottier, Brodeur, Niedermayer receive?
Tell me why why the entire history in this market now changes.
I have no doubt Iginla makes a ton of endorsement money right now, but are you actually trying to say that if, say, Iginla were to go and sign with Toronto that he wouldn't keep all endorsements he has now plus get a whole lot more? I mean Tie Domi gets endorsement dollars in Toronto.The Iconoclast said:Wanna explain WHY Jarome Iginla makes gobs more endorsement cash than Mats Sundin then? Also, wanna explain the competitive disadvantage of large markets when it comes to large markets? Who would you rather have promoting your product in New York? Derek Jeeter, Eli Manning, Anfernee Hardaway or Sydney Crosby? Who do you think is going to make all the money there when it comes to endorsements? Common sense. Try using some.
alexmorrison said:I have no doubt Iginla makes a ton of endorsement money right now, but are you actually trying to say that if, say, Iginla were to go and sign with Toronto that he wouldn't keep all endorsements he has now plus get a whole lot more? I mean Tie Domi gets endorsement dollars in Toronto.
And following your New York logic, then obviously Mark Messier shouldn't be getting any endorsements with all the other options available should he? Oh wait he does.
Try using your own common sense.
The Iconoclast said:Get a grip buddy. I guarantee that Iginla would not be making the endorsements he does if he were in New York. Hockey is still the fourth most popular sport in the city and the Rangers lag well behind the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets and Knicks in popularity.
Frankly all of this endorsement stuff is ********. Lebron James isn't hurt one bit by playing in Cleveland. Tiger Woods, the absolute KING of endorsements, is not hurt one bit by not living in a big market and never playing in one for more than a week at a time. Local endorsement deals are peanuts, its the national deals that make you money, and national deals don't care where you are based. Be the best at your sport and you will make money off of endorsements. End of story.
Agreed, the greatest players in a sport will always make good endorsement money where ever they play (as is the case with Iginla, Lebron James, et al).The Iconoclast said:Get a grip buddy. I guarantee that Iginla would not be making the endorsements he does if he were in New York. Hockey is still the fourth most popular sport in the city and the Rangers lag well behind the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets and Knicks in popularity. Toronto is likely another story, but it is debateable as to whether being there would have a significant impact on endorsements. If Toronto were all that and a bag of chips why is Sundin not on top of the heap? He is the big boy in the center of the universe! Frankly all of this endorsement stuff is ********. Lebron James isn't hurt one bit by playing in Cleveland. Tiger Woods, the absolute KING of endorsements, is not hurt one bit by not living in a big market and never playing in one for more than a week at a time. Local endorsement deals are peanuts, its the national deals that make you money, and national deals don't care where you are based. Be the best at your sport and you will make money off of endorsements. End of story.
You know, I think there are a lot of professional athletes, especially hockey players, who want no part of endorsements. They're here to play a team game, not promote themselves or some product they don't even use. For some, it isn't all about the money.The Iconoclast said:Wanna explain WHY Jarome Iginla makes gobs more endorsement cash than Mats Sundin then? Also, wanna explain the competitive disadvantage of large markets when it comes to large markets? Who would you rather have promoting your product in New York? Derek Jeeter, Eli Manning, Anfernee Hardaway or Sydney Crosby? Who do you think is going to make all the money there when it comes to endorsements? Common sense. Try using some.
You hit on the key word.shakes said:Even Crosby's agent says the same thing. Given a choice, I'll believe the guys who actually market people for a living