Crosby Draft

ludger

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Now that the nhl has reached parity, is it time to stop rewarding bad teams and go back to the Crosby draft formula of last year? Great for marketting the league
 
No, it's not time and you can't say the NHL has reached parity. What happened was the new rules opened up a whole new game for teams with good skaters. That and some teams made the right personnel moves at the right time. Factor in luck of the draw and it's definitely not time to say there is parity. It's only been one year since the drastic rule changes. Also, having a random draft lottery doesn't do jack for marketing the league as you say.
 
Getting ris of the draft is probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards. Are you being serious?
 
Craig Ludwig said:
Getting ris of the draft is probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen on these boards. Are you being serious?
no kidding. while we are at it. get rid of the cap. that way 3/4 teams can have every prospect coming in and all the free agents.


and to the orig post - NO
 
ludger said:
Now that the nhl has reached parity, is it time to stop rewarding bad teams and go back to the Crosby draft formula of last year? Great for marketting the league


Its not great for anything. The worst team should always be getting the top picks. Its not a reward, its to help them get better and become an elite team. I don't know if you don't understand this or if your just a fan of a team that consistently picks in the 20's and your jelous.
 
Blackjack said:
simply do two things

#1 get rid of the draft altogether

#2 allow any team to sign any player from any other teams "farm team"

This will do far more for parity than any draft ever could.

Damn thats so stupid :shakehead
 
I think that it is an absolutely brilliant idea. Now that the Pens, who much of these threads have been aimed at ever since the Crosby draft, are finally about to turn the corner and look in the rear view mirror at top five picks, give us an equal chance to everyone else to add a number one pick to Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, perhaps Kessel or Staal or Jack Johnson, and on and on. Please, pass this right now. We Pens' fans would love it.
 
I like the Lottery draft as well, better then from the standings because it favors throwing the last month of the season if you know you are out of playoff contention.

Give each team a number of balls that is reflective of their past seasons performance and pick them like that. Much more fair.
 
rigger said:
I like the Lottery draft as well, better then from the standings because it favors throwing the last month of the season if you know you are out of playoff contention.

Give each team a number of balls that is reflective of their past seasons performance and pick them like that. Much more fair.

*sigh* That's the POINT of the normal lottery that's in place. You can tank and still not get the pick you want.

Oh, and since this is about the Penguins make no mistake, isn't it interesting how when they were "tanking" this past season they "accidentally" ended up ahead of St. Louis. I guess they were just so good a team in reality they couldn't even do their usual tanking! :shakehead
 
Blackjack said:
simply do two things

#1 get rid of the draft altogether

#2 allow any team to sign any player from any other teams "farm team"

This will do far more for parity than any draft ever could.

No it wouldn't. Teams like Montreal are gonna be far more popular to sign with then say Phoenix. Seeing as how still alot of the top prospects are canadian, they would sign with their favourite team which would usually be canadian.

Having complete parity is not a good thing.
 
Drafts are a must boys. Otherwise it'll be like English football. Letting teams sign 12 year olds.

I must admit tho, I"m sick of the Pens getting a sickning number of high picks. Whitney, Sid, Malkin, MAF and this year. The Pens are either the smartest team on the planet, or are an emabarassment after all those high picks they are still picking high.

MAF went 1st overall? :biglaugh: I hope they rot.
 
The Republicans passed term limits for Presidents after FDR cleaned their clocks for . . .what was it, three or was it four straight election cycles. Then promptly had it bite them in the rear as they began winning by far more election cycles than the Democrats ever since. This is one of those things. The Pens will thank everyone very graciously if this passes and they end up competing for a cup starting another couple of years from now AND with their luck of late getting the number one pick too. Hell, I will be shocked if they end up with another top five pick next year. Please, I am beggging you, lobby for this 'screw the damn Pens' rule to pass. Please make it happen.
 
bletchley said:
Drafts are a must boys. Otherwise it'll be like English football. Letting teams sign 12 year olds.

I must admit tho, I"m sick of the Pens getting a sickning number of high picks. Whitney, Sid, Malkin, MAF and this year. The Pens are either the smartest team on the planet, or are an emabarassment after all those high picks they are still picking high.

MAF went 1st overall? :biglaugh: I hope they rot.

Uninformed hockey fan #6,961
 
Evilo said:
How is picking first a reward?
That I will never understand.

Me neither.

To the doubters - try being a fan of a team that has stunk up the joint for the past 5 years and then lets hear your thoughts about the draft.

You can't have your cake and eat it to.
 
UnderratedBrooks44 said:
Uninformed hockey fan #6,961

I've been watchin the game looong before you have. That I can guarantee you. I'm guessing yuo're an uninformed American hockey fan who only follows the Pens? Sound right?

MAF is a joke. Only Mike Milbury takes goalies 1st overall.
 
bletchley said:
I've been watchin the game looong before you have. That I can guarantee you. I'm guessing yuo're an uninformed American hockey fan who only follows the Pens? Sound right?

MAF is a joke. Only Mike Milbury takes goalies 1st overall.

Come and talk to us in a couple of years. Goalies take a long time to develope, usually by the mid-20's. MAF has shown signs of being one of the best. The only bad thing is that he will hit his prime right at his UFA years. That said, even in hindsight the Pens are better off with how things worked out. If they had taken a forward in 2003, who would they have to play goal? And as well they likely would not have ended up last in 2004-5 which brought them Malkin and Crosby. All in all the Pens are not upset at all with how things turned out. In fact it was better than perfect.
 
bletchley said:
I've been watchin the game looong before you have. That I can guarantee you. I'm guessing yuo're an uninformed American hockey fan who only follows the Pens? Sound right?

MAF is a joke. Only Mike Milbury takes goalies 1st overall.

You've been watching that long and you still don't know anything?
 
It seems to me that teams consistently finishing in the middle of the pack are doomed to remain the same while teams finishing last for three to four years become powerhouses under the present draft system. example ottawa, and soon to be, pittsburg. The reward for mediocrety is wait for a few years and you will be one of the top teams.
 
There's a reason Pittsburgh is a joker of a team.

MAF 1st overall is a flat out terrbile pick. CP was blinded by one showing that the WJs.
 
bletchley said:
There's a reason Pittsburgh is a joker of a team.

MAF 1st overall is a flat out terrbile pick. CP was blinded by one showing that the WJs.

They didn't give up much to secure him. Mikael Samuelsson and a 2nd rounder, with the flip flop of picks of course. I'll take that as insurance to get the player I want any day.

They're terrible at drafting no doubt. I'll be the first to admit that, but this past year Patrick guessed wrong with what kind of free agents would be viable in the new NHL and before that, well you try and assemble a competitive team with a $20 mil. payroll. They made the playoffs for something like 12 straight seasons before that but who cares right?
 
ludger said:
It seems to me that teams consistently finishing in the middle of the pack are doomed to remain the same while teams finishing last for three to four years become powerhouses under the present draft system. example ottawa, and soon to be, pittsburg. The reward for mediocrety is wait for a few years and you will be one of the top teams.

It's not because of that it's because the teams consistently in the middle are stupid. You can get good players in the mid-first round and you can name all the teams that you say are in the middle and I'll point out to you why they've failed to make the next step.
 

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