Crazy rise in scoring the last three years

[Romang67]

Goaltenders are abysmal now. Shesterskin is considered the best but he wouldn't even sniff the top 10 a decade ago.

This obviously isn't correct.

 

[Bizz]

This obviously isn't correct.

Price
Lundqvist
Rask
Rinne
Quick
Luongo
Crawford
MA Fleury
Anderson
Bishop

All of them better than Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, and Oettenger. The top 3 right now.

 

[Rafafouille]

Crazy is stretching it quite a lot. 2.71 goals per game per team average at the lowest in 2016, 2024 was at 3.11. Only a 15% raise. For example we'd need to add another 29% to reach the 4.01 of 81-82.

 

[Romang67]

Price
Lundqvist
Rask
Rinne
Quick
Luongo
Crawford
MA Fleury
Anderson
Bishop

All of them better than Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, and Oettenger. The top 3 right now.

This obviously isn't correct.

Unless you're looking strictly at save percentage? Don't do that.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I don't like it personally , make 100 points great again

Price
Lundqvist
Rask
Rinne
Quick
Luongo
Crawford
MA Fleury
Anderson
Bishop

All of them better than Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, and Oettenger. The top 3 right now.

All these guys get lit up in 2024 with smaller pads and 5'10 shrimps shooting piss rockets with 80 flex uncontested in the slot during regular season games

 

[daver]

Crazy is stretching it quite a lot. 2.71 goals per game per team average at the lowest in 2016, 2024 was at 3.11. Only a 15% raise. For example we'd need to add another 29% to reach the 4.01 of 81-82.

The top end scorers have jumped up way more than that.

The Top Ten scorers from '14 to '16 averaged a 1.03 PPG.

The Top Ten scorers from '22 to '24 averaged a 1.39 PPG (a 35% difference).

The Top Ten scorers from '02 to '04 averaged a 1.07 PPG.

The Top Ten scorers from '82 to '84 averaged a 1.43 PPG.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Crazy to think Jamie Benn led the league in scoring before McDavid entered the league and barely scratched 90 points.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Lmao, the last 3 years? The NHL has seen a steady rise in scoring for almost 7 seasons, if you look at the amount of 100pt players, it's comical at this point and it's a high scoring era. Makes what players did from 2005-2017 incredible really.

 

[blundluntman]

I don't believe that players suddenly became more skilled and goalies became worse, the rules, equipment and officiating just gave players more opportunity to display their skills and equipment made it harder for goalies to display theirs. Expansion makes a difference too obviously. It's kinda crazy when you think about 2023 where the vezina winner put up a .940 and the art ross winner had 153 points

 

[hohosaregood]

I think the offside rule changing from foot down to breaking the plane allowed for more space and speed through the neutral zone

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

So, scoring increased as Canada's ability to produce goaltenders decreased?

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Rule changes

Goalie pads
3 on 3 overtime
Statistics on pulling goalie for empty goals

Top end players feasting on bottom end players.

32 teams. We have 2nd pairing AHL guys playing minutes In the NHL.

 

[Dirty Dan]

Goaltenders are abysmal now. Shesterskin is considered the best but he wouldn't even sniff the top 10 a decade ago.

How are you supposed to be a good goalie when everyone shoots hard and quick? You have 4th lines with filthy shots

 

[Canadienna]

It's combined both an increase in league wide scoring, and a higher concentration of that scoring amongst the league's top stars.

 

[ayrton2388]

You are delusional!

Scoring is actually lower than 5-10 years ago, and has been so for 3-4 years now.

Of course, this is only from the perspective of Ducks fans, where what i said stands true,

 

[tmg]

You are delusional!

Scoring is actually lower than 5-10 years ago, and has been so for 3-4 years now.

Of course, this is only from the perspective of Ducks fans, where what i said stands true,

I mean; the stats are readily available. People have posted them in this thread. It’s hard to call stats delusional.

Goals per team per game have been 3.11, 3.18, 3.14 the past three years. The highest goals per team per game rate any year in that 5-10 year ago range was 3.02. 8-12 years ago it was under 2.8 every year.

‘Delusional’.


Edit: (Oh, now I see the nearly-invisitext; not seeing that I thought you were serious)

 

[tarheelhockey]

I will never get over people who legit believe that speed, strength, shooting, coaching, and training all got wildly better between 2017 and 2019.

 

[tmg]

I will never get over people who legit believe that speed, strength, shooting, coaching, and training all got wildly better between 2017 and 2019.

While I agree; of those five, only shooting would have an appreciable effect on scoring. Speed, strength, coaching, and training would benefit defenders proportionally to scorers.

 

[tarheelhockey]

While I agree; of those five, only shooting would have an appreciable effect on scoring. Speed, strength, coaching, and training would benefit defenders proportionally to scorers.

Agreed. I’m just responding to several posts on the first page, which suggest NHL players got bitten by radioactive spiders circa 2018.

 

[Euro Twins]

I for one love it. Love the high scoring games and the 120+ point players.

 

[PaulD]

Scoring hasn't been this easy since the 80s.

 

[PaulD]

Agreed. I’m just responding to several posts on the first page, which suggest NHL players got bitten by radioactive spiders circa 2018.

No. Defenseman cant touch anyone around the net anymore. Forwards dream come true.

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Maybe related, the Leafs fell from a franchise high team at 115 points to a 111 point team to a 102 point team over the last 3 seasons.

 

[TGWL]

Price
Lundqvist
Rask
Rinne
Quick
Luongo
Crawford
MA Fleury
Anderson
Bishop

All of them better than Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, and Oettenger. The top 3 right now.

That's going to be a no from me, dawg. Unless your argument for some of them are "cup wins" while having a much longer career so far, but you shot yourself in the foot there with Vasilevskiy not making the cut.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

-goaltending sucks/shrunk equipment
-multiple expansions
-league soft as butter
-every top d man is a coffey 2.0

This is why you have mcdavid scoring 153 and kuch and mack close with 140+.
None of these guys sniff those numbers in 2010-2017 era