Post-Game Talk: craps @ RANGERS

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KAM is Staal with the same reach with more skills
Lindgren is Girardi but younger and still integral
Fox is McDonagh at both ends of the ice

We're basically getting 2012 McDonagh-Girardi and Staal back in Fox-Lindgren and KAM. Now we have Trouba to make that KAM pairing steady for the next 5 years, Lundkvist, Schneider, and Robertson to add on in the future. We'll easily eclipse the height of our last window's D core. Now we just need a winning coach to turn forward talent into real results.
Fox is around .5 PPG on a team that hasn't been scoring at all, has positive metrics every night, and is playing 25 mins a game.

McDonagh never did what Fox is doing this year.
 
can you explain? I haven't been following his COVID story

Kakko was on COVID list earlier in the season. But that sounded like it was just exposure. But not a positive. But the way Quinn said Kakko doesn't have any symptoms YET this time around, sure sounds like a positive test result. But for all we know it could be a false positive. We can hope that's the case.
 
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Cap announcer said the Rangers have a skill PP unit as #1 and a will powerplay as their #2 .....LOL...I think he nailed it . Plus in the pre game he also said Fox was not a great skater....I never thought he was too bad LOL.....
 
I mean, did he look good?

I admittedly only saw one period but he spent that period not being able to leave his own zone.
I thought he looked better than he had the last few games before he was out, but not as good as he looked the first handful of games.

He seemed to keep a lot of rushes to the outside
 
He's doing less Strome things. He and Panarin last year were great, but he became too enchanted with him. Babysitting the kids got him to quit stargazing and playing again. Then today it was centering Buch and Kreider which was a good line today.
Yeah he fancied himself a globetrotter after playing with Panarin. He’s a much more effective player when playing smart. He can still be creative but smarter about it.
 
As for the goal today, doing anything for Laf in terms of turning on the offense. Maybe it'll do something. But more than anything i see a kid who is striving to stay on the right side of the puck and therefore is playing pretty tentative. He's doing his best to be responsible, covering 3F, things like that and he's thinking too much and it's slowing down his feet.

You do get these flashes where you see just how quick his hands are. Fastest on the team. But he needs more confidence in knowing where he's supposed to be.

He's gotta rebuild his game similar to what happened with Kakko.

For what it's worth, it seems like historically with the Rangers, it's taken young wingers longer to figure out how to play within an NHL structure. I don't know why that is, but in the past guys who come up as centers perhaps have a stronger defensive base within their games. Whereas these young wingers learned how to stretch the ice at lower levels but not so much hunker down and play below the circles when necessary.
 
No but Machinehead made a post with some advanced stats that back up what the eye test showed, that Fox was great and largely neutralized Ovechkin and you “yawned” at it which would appear to be you disagreeing, no?

OVI walked right around Fox like he wasn't even there.
It's not a knock against Fox but that just can't happen, especially in the playoffs.
That's my point..
 
Cap announcer said the Rangers have a skill PP unit as #1 and a will powerplay as their #2 .....LOL...I think he nailed it . Plus in the pre game he also said Fox was not a great skater....I never thought he was too bad LOL.....
Fox isn’t a bad skater but he’s not a fast or powerful skater. When compared to players he is often compared to like Makar and Hughes, Fox definitely is a weaker skater than them but he’s definitely not bad.

He’s fantastic on his edges and with his pivots. He’s extremely smart so he knows where to be and how to play his gaps to overcome any speed (and size) issues. I actually think he looks a bit quicker this year than last year too.
 
OVI walked right around Fox like he wasn't even there.
It's not a knock against Fox but that just can't happen, especially in the playoffs.
That's my point..
Fair enough but that’s one play in the overall scheme where Fox was overall very good against Ovy when out there against him.
 
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OVI walked right around Fox like he wasn't even there.
It's not a knock against Fox but that just can't happen, especially in the playoffs.
That's my point..
Opponents are going to get one or two good chances against you every night. I don't care if you're Bobby Orr.
 
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I thought he looked better than he had the last few games before he was out, but not as good as he looked the first handful of games.

He seemed to keep a lot of rushes to the outside
For me, it just goes back to the "picking up bad habits on the Rangers" pattern, but we all know what I think of Quinn.

Still a great result, all things considered.
 
I do in fact like Fox very much but you both have to watch that play again.
He literally did nothing.

If a goal had been scored then you'd be ringing off the alarms but because he got away with one you're brushing it under the carpet.

Keep in mind.. That I still put this on DQ for not having an appropriate system in place to negate plays like this.
 

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