TSN: Craig Button update draft list...We got some jumpers

[Sterling Archer]

This needs to be repeated, from Button on X:

Clarification. I am not predicting the draft. Projecting who I feel will be the best NHL players in 4-5 years.

McKenzie surveys scouts.
Button gives his own list.

Of course Bob should be closer to reality.

I like his Helenius call.

Given this context, I went back to see his past lists and shockingly, it's not as bad as it seems when he first puts them out. Not perfect by any extent, but who's list is. A few misses here and there but overall, it' looks pretty close to how most turned out then not. Here's what they are:

2018
1. Rasmus Dahlin – D – Frolunda (SHL)
2. Andrei Svechnikov – RW – Barrie (OHL)
3. Brady Tkachuk – LW – Boston U (NCAA)
4. Filip Zadina – RW – Halifax (QMJHL)
5. Jesperi Kotkaniemi – C – Assat (SM-Liiga)
6. Noah Dobson – D – Acadia Bathurst (QMJHL)
7. Evan Bouchard – D – London (OHL)
8. Quinn Hughes – D – Michigan (NCAA)
9. Oliver Wahlstrom – RW – USA NTDP (USHL)
10. Adam Boqvist – D – Brynas (SWE J20)
11. Barret Hayton – C – S.S. Marie (OHL)
12. Vitali Kravstov – RW – Chelyabinsk (MHL)
13. Ty Smith – D – Spokane (WHL)
14. Joe Veleno – C – Drummondville (QMJL)
15. Grigori Denisenko – LW – Yaroslav (MHL)
16. Martin Kaut – RW – Paradubice (CZE Extra)
17. Joel Farabee – LW – USA NTDP (USHL)
18. Dominik Bokk – RW – Vaxjo (SWE J20)
19. Serron Noel – RW – Oshawa (OHL)
20. Rasmus Kupari – C – Karpat (SM Liiga)
21. Isac Lundestrom – C – Lulea (SHL)
22. Ryan McLeod – C – Mississauga (OHL)
23. Ty Dellandrea – D – Flint (OHL)
24. K’Andre Miller – D – USA NTDP (USHL)
25. Bode Wilde – D – USA NTDP (USHL)
26. Jared McIsaac – D – Halifax (QMJHL)
27. Rasmus Sundin – D – S.S. Marie (OHL)
28. Akil Thomas – RW – Niagara (OHL)
29.Liam Foudy – C – London (OHL)
30. Alexander Alexeyev – D – Red Deer (WHL)
31. Mattias Samuelsson – D – USA NTDP (USHL)

2019
1 Jack HUGHES C
2 Kaapo KAKKO RW
3 Bowen BYRAM D
4 Cole CAUFIELD RW
5 Matthew BOLDY LW
6 Trevor ZEGRAS C
7 Philip BROBERG D
8 Peyton KREBS C
9 Vasili PODKOLZIN RW
10 Alex TURCOTTE C/LW
11 Thomas HARLEY D
12 Kirby DACH C/RW
13 Arthur KALIYEV RW
14 Dylan COZENS C
15 Spencer KNIGHT G
16 Cam YORK D
17 Raphael LAVOIE LW/RW
18 Alex NEWHOOK C
19 Ilya NIKOLAEV C
20 Bobby BRINK C/RW
21 Egor AFANASYEV LW
22 Connor McMICHAEL C/LW
23 Phillip TOMASINO C
24 Vladislav KOLYACHONOK D
25 Victor SÖDERSTRÖM D
26 Moritz SEIDER D
27 Tobias BJÖRNFOT D
28 Nicholas ROBERTSON LW
29 Ryan SUZUKI C
30 Brett LEASON RW
31 Matthew ROBERTSON D

2020

1	New York Rangers	Alexis Lafreniere	LW	Rimouski (QMJHL)
2	Los Angeles Kings	Quinton Byfield	C	Sudbury (OHL)
3	Ottawa Senators	Tim Stutzle	C	Mannheim (DEL)
4	Detroit Red Wings	Jamie Drysdale	D	Erie (OHL)
5	Ottawa Senators	Lucas Raymond	LW	Frolunda (SHL)
6	Anaheim Ducks	Jake Sanderson	D	US-NTDP
7	New Jersey Devils	Cole Perfetti	C	Saginaw (OHL)
8	Buffalo Sabres	Marco Rossi	C	Ottawa (OHL)
9	Minnesota Wild	Anton Lundell	C	HIFK (Liiga)
10	Winnipeg Jets	Seth Jarvis	C	Portland (WHL)
11	Nashville Predators	Yaroslav Askarov	G	SKA (KHL)
12	Florida Panthers	Kaiden Guhle	D	Prince Albert (WHL)
13	Carolina Hurricanes	Alexander Holtz	RW	Djurgarden (SHL)
14	Edmonton Oilers	Jack Quinn	RW	Ottawa (OHL)
15	Toronto Maple Leafs	Braden Schneider	D	Brandon (WHL)
16	Montreal Canadiens	Dawson Mercer	C	Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
17	Chicago Blackhawks	Hendrix Lapierre	C	Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
18	New Jersey Devils	Jacob Perreault	RW	Sarnia (OHL)
19	Calgary Flames	Justin Barron	D	Halifax (QMJHL)
20	New Jersey Devils	Dylan Holloway	C	Wisconsin (Big Ten)
21	Columbus Blue Jackets	Ridly Greig	C	Brandon (WHL)
22	New York Rangers	Connor Zary	C	Kamloops (WHL)
23	Philadelphia Flyers	Tyson Foerster	RW	Barrie (OHL)
24	Washington Capitals	Jeremie Poirier	D	Saint John (QMJHL)
25	Colorado Avalanche	Brendan Brisson	C	Chicago (USHL)
26	St. Louis Blues	William Wallinder	D	MODO (Allsvenskan)
27	Anaheim Ducks	Helge Grans	D	Malmo (Sweden)
28	Ottawa Senators	John-Jason Peterka	LW	Munich (DEL)
29	Vegas Golden Knights	Ryan O'Rourke	D	Sault St. Marie (OHL)
30	Dallas Stars	Rodion Amirov	LW	UFA (KHL)
31	San Jose Sharks	Jan Mysak	C/LW	Hamilton (OHL)

 

[Habs Halifax]

Given this context, I went back to see his past lists and shockingly, it's not as bad as it seems when he first puts them out. Not perfect by any extent, but who's list is. A few misses here and there but overall, it' looks pretty close to how most turned out then not. Here's what they are:

2018
1. Rasmus Dahlin – D – Frolunda (SHL)
2. Andrei Svechnikov – RW – Barrie (OHL)
3. Brady Tkachuk – LW – Boston U (NCAA)
4. Filip Zadina – RW – Halifax (QMJHL)
5. Jesperi Kotkaniemi – C – Assat (SM-Liiga)
6. Noah Dobson – D – Acadia Bathurst (QMJHL)
7. Evan Bouchard – D – London (OHL)
8. Quinn Hughes – D – Michigan (NCAA)
9. Oliver Wahlstrom – RW – USA NTDP (USHL)
10. Adam Boqvist – D – Brynas (SWE J20)
11. Barret Hayton – C – S.S. Marie (OHL)
12. Vitali Kravstov – RW – Chelyabinsk (MHL)
13. Ty Smith – D – Spokane (WHL)
14. Joe Veleno – C – Drummondville (QMJL)
15. Grigori Denisenko – LW – Yaroslav (MHL)
16. Martin Kaut – RW – Paradubice (CZE Extra)
17. Joel Farabee – LW – USA NTDP (USHL)
18. Dominik Bokk – RW – Vaxjo (SWE J20)
19. Serron Noel – RW – Oshawa (OHL)
20. Rasmus Kupari – C – Karpat (SM Liiga)
21. Isac Lundestrom – C – Lulea (SHL)
22. Ryan McLeod – C – Mississauga (OHL)
23. Ty Dellandrea – D – Flint (OHL)
24. K’Andre Miller – D – USA NTDP (USHL)
25. Bode Wilde – D – USA NTDP (USHL)
26. Jared McIsaac – D – Halifax (QMJHL)
27. Rasmus Sundin – D – S.S. Marie (OHL)
28. Akil Thomas – RW – Niagara (OHL)
29.Liam Foudy – C – London (OHL)
30. Alexander Alexeyev – D – Red Deer (WHL)
31. Mattias Samuelsson – D – USA NTDP (USHL)

2019
1 Jack HUGHES C
2 Kaapo KAKKO RW
3 Bowen BYRAM D
4 Cole CAUFIELD RW
5 Matthew BOLDY LW
6 Trevor ZEGRAS C
7 Philip BROBERG D
8 Peyton KREBS C
9 Vasili PODKOLZIN RW
10 Alex TURCOTTE C/LW
11 Thomas HARLEY D
12 Kirby DACH C/RW
13 Arthur KALIYEV RW
14 Dylan COZENS C
15 Spencer KNIGHT G
16 Cam YORK D
17 Raphael LAVOIE LW/RW
18 Alex NEWHOOK C
19 Ilya NIKOLAEV C
20 Bobby BRINK C/RW
21 Egor AFANASYEV LW
22 Connor McMICHAEL C/LW
23 Phillip TOMASINO C
24 Vladislav KOLYACHONOK D
25 Victor SÖDERSTRÖM D
26 Moritz SEIDER D
27 Tobias BJÖRNFOT D
28 Nicholas ROBERTSON LW
29 Ryan SUZUKI C
30 Brett LEASON RW
31 Matthew ROBERTSON D

2020

1	New York Rangers	Alexis Lafreniere	LW	Rimouski (QMJHL)
2	Los Angeles Kings	Quinton Byfield	C	Sudbury (OHL)
3	Ottawa Senators	Tim Stutzle	C	Mannheim (DEL)
4	Detroit Red Wings	Jamie Drysdale	D	Erie (OHL)
5	Ottawa Senators	Lucas Raymond	LW	Frolunda (SHL)
6	Anaheim Ducks	Jake Sanderson	D	US-NTDP
7	New Jersey Devils	Cole Perfetti	C	Saginaw (OHL)
8	Buffalo Sabres	Marco Rossi	C	Ottawa (OHL)
9	Minnesota Wild	Anton Lundell	C	HIFK (Liiga)
10	Winnipeg Jets	Seth Jarvis	C	Portland (WHL)
11	Nashville Predators	Yaroslav Askarov	G	SKA (KHL)
12	Florida Panthers	Kaiden Guhle	D	Prince Albert (WHL)
13	Carolina Hurricanes	Alexander Holtz	RW	Djurgarden (SHL)
14	Edmonton Oilers	Jack Quinn	RW	Ottawa (OHL)
15	Toronto Maple Leafs	Braden Schneider	D	Brandon (WHL)
16	Montreal Canadiens	Dawson Mercer	C	Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
17	Chicago Blackhawks	Hendrix Lapierre	C	Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
18	New Jersey Devils	Jacob Perreault	RW	Sarnia (OHL)
19	Calgary Flames	Justin Barron	D	Halifax (QMJHL)
20	New Jersey Devils	Dylan Holloway	C	Wisconsin (Big Ten)
21	Columbus Blue Jackets	Ridly Greig	C	Brandon (WHL)
22	New York Rangers	Connor Zary	C	Kamloops (WHL)
23	Philadelphia Flyers	Tyson Foerster	RW	Barrie (OHL)
24	Washington Capitals	Jeremie Poirier	D	Saint John (QMJHL)
25	Colorado Avalanche	Brendan Brisson	C	Chicago (USHL)
26	St. Louis Blues	William Wallinder	D	MODO (Allsvenskan)
27	Anaheim Ducks	Helge Grans	D	Malmo (Sweden)
28	Ottawa Senators	John-Jason Peterka	LW	Munich (DEL)
29	Vegas Golden Knights	Ryan O'Rourke	D	Sault St. Marie (OHL)
30	Dallas Stars	Rodion Amirov	LW	UFA (KHL)
31	San Jose Sharks	Jan Mysak	C/LW	Hamilton (OHL)

Yup, some fans have knee jerk reactions but most lists are fairly wrong when we look back. Button doesn't care one bit about the popular opinions. I respect that

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Given this context, I went back to see his past lists and shockingly, it's not as bad as it seems when he first puts them out. Not perfect by any extent, but who's list is. A few misses here and there but overall, it' looks pretty close to how most turned out then not. Here's what they are:

2018
1. Rasmus Dahlin – D – Frolunda (SHL)
2. Andrei Svechnikov – RW – Barrie (OHL)
3. Brady Tkachuk – LW – Boston U (NCAA)
4. Filip Zadina – RW – Halifax (QMJHL)
5. Jesperi Kotkaniemi – C – Assat (SM-Liiga)
6. Noah Dobson – D – Acadia Bathurst (QMJHL)
7. Evan Bouchard – D – London (OHL)
8. Quinn Hughes – D – Michigan (NCAA)
9. Oliver Wahlstrom – RW – USA NTDP (USHL)
10. Adam Boqvist – D – Brynas (SWE J20)
11. Barret Hayton – C – S.S. Marie (OHL)
12. Vitali Kravstov – RW – Chelyabinsk (MHL)
13. Ty Smith – D – Spokane (WHL)
14. Joe Veleno – C – Drummondville (QMJL)
15. Grigori Denisenko – LW – Yaroslav (MHL)
16. Martin Kaut – RW – Paradubice (CZE Extra)
17. Joel Farabee – LW – USA NTDP (USHL)
18. Dominik Bokk – RW – Vaxjo (SWE J20)
19. Serron Noel – RW – Oshawa (OHL)
20. Rasmus Kupari – C – Karpat (SM Liiga)
21. Isac Lundestrom – C – Lulea (SHL)
22. Ryan McLeod – C – Mississauga (OHL)
23. Ty Dellandrea – D – Flint (OHL)
24. K’Andre Miller – D – USA NTDP (USHL)
25. Bode Wilde – D – USA NTDP (USHL)
26. Jared McIsaac – D – Halifax (QMJHL)
27. Rasmus Sundin – D – S.S. Marie (OHL)
28. Akil Thomas – RW – Niagara (OHL)
29.Liam Foudy – C – London (OHL)
30. Alexander Alexeyev – D – Red Deer (WHL)
31. Mattias Samuelsson – D – USA NTDP (USHL)

2019
1 Jack HUGHES C
2 Kaapo KAKKO RW
3 Bowen BYRAM D
4 Cole CAUFIELD RW
5 Matthew BOLDY LW
6 Trevor ZEGRAS C
7 Philip BROBERG D
8 Peyton KREBS C
9 Vasili PODKOLZIN RW
10 Alex TURCOTTE C/LW
11 Thomas HARLEY D
12 Kirby DACH C/RW
13 Arthur KALIYEV RW
14 Dylan COZENS C
15 Spencer KNIGHT G
16 Cam YORK D
17 Raphael LAVOIE LW/RW
18 Alex NEWHOOK C
19 Ilya NIKOLAEV C
20 Bobby BRINK C/RW
21 Egor AFANASYEV LW
22 Connor McMICHAEL C/LW
23 Phillip TOMASINO C
24 Vladislav KOLYACHONOK D
25 Victor SÖDERSTRÖM D
26 Moritz SEIDER D
27 Tobias BJÖRNFOT D
28 Nicholas ROBERTSON LW
29 Ryan SUZUKI C
30 Brett LEASON RW
31 Matthew ROBERTSON D

2020

1	New York Rangers	Alexis Lafreniere	LW	Rimouski (QMJHL)
2	Los Angeles Kings	Quinton Byfield	C	Sudbury (OHL)
3	Ottawa Senators	Tim Stutzle	C	Mannheim (DEL)
4	Detroit Red Wings	Jamie Drysdale	D	Erie (OHL)
5	Ottawa Senators	Lucas Raymond	LW	Frolunda (SHL)
6	Anaheim Ducks	Jake Sanderson	D	US-NTDP
7	New Jersey Devils	Cole Perfetti	C	Saginaw (OHL)
8	Buffalo Sabres	Marco Rossi	C	Ottawa (OHL)
9	Minnesota Wild	Anton Lundell	C	HIFK (Liiga)
10	Winnipeg Jets	Seth Jarvis	C	Portland (WHL)
11	Nashville Predators	Yaroslav Askarov	G	SKA (KHL)
12	Florida Panthers	Kaiden Guhle	D	Prince Albert (WHL)
13	Carolina Hurricanes	Alexander Holtz	RW	Djurgarden (SHL)
14	Edmonton Oilers	Jack Quinn	RW	Ottawa (OHL)
15	Toronto Maple Leafs	Braden Schneider	D	Brandon (WHL)
16	Montreal Canadiens	Dawson Mercer	C	Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
17	Chicago Blackhawks	Hendrix Lapierre	C	Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
18	New Jersey Devils	Jacob Perreault	RW	Sarnia (OHL)
19	Calgary Flames	Justin Barron	D	Halifax (QMJHL)
20	New Jersey Devils	Dylan Holloway	C	Wisconsin (Big Ten)
21	Columbus Blue Jackets	Ridly Greig	C	Brandon (WHL)
22	New York Rangers	Connor Zary	C	Kamloops (WHL)
23	Philadelphia Flyers	Tyson Foerster	RW	Barrie (OHL)
24	Washington Capitals	Jeremie Poirier	D	Saint John (QMJHL)
25	Colorado Avalanche	Brendan Brisson	C	Chicago (USHL)
26	St. Louis Blues	William Wallinder	D	MODO (Allsvenskan)
27	Anaheim Ducks	Helge Grans	D	Malmo (Sweden)
28	Ottawa Senators	John-Jason Peterka	LW	Munich (DEL)
29	Vegas Golden Knights	Ryan O'Rourke	D	Sault St. Marie (OHL)
30	Dallas Stars	Rodion Amirov	LW	UFA (KHL)
31	San Jose Sharks	Jan Mysak	C/LW	Hamilton (OHL)

Actually his choices wee better than most and better than the order they were drafted. In 2019 Caufield, Boldy and Zegras in the top 6 and that is where they should have been drafted.