Rutherford: Craig Berube Unofficially Named Head Coach

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I was looking on info about the upcoming draft and hoping we aren't seeing a bust in the top few players (especially the top 2 guys).
I thought of Nail Yakupov. Fell on this info from his Father's interview.

***The following text was translated from Russian to English using Google Translate.
“When the coach is an idiot, the team will fail.”
“Mike Yeo didn’t succeed at Minnesota, he only lost time there. A similar situation is happening now. The team will not fight for such a coach. I saw them play, familiar with their system. This club should fight for the Stanley Cup, but, again, if the coach is an idiot, then you can forget about it. It seems to me that Yeo doesn’t understand anything at all in hockey. Unrestrained, unrestrained. I wouldn’t even trust the children’s team to him.”


The Blues were one of the more active teams in the offseason by signing Tyler Bozak, Patrick Maroon and acquiring Ryan O'Reilly. Expected to be a contender in the Western Conference by boosting their roster, the Blues sit 5th last in the league with 7 points and have struggled at keeping the puck out of their net entering Saturday's slate of games.

source :https://www.bardown.com/nail-yakupov-s-dad-rips-blues-coach-mike-yeo-for-team-s-struggles-1.1199496

Berube and the arrival of Bennington changed it all.
 
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Letting your Cup winning coach walk isn’t unprecedented, but it is hard to understand for me. I think Washington was stupid to do so.
Remember the situation, though. Trotz was finishing up his 4th year in Washington, reportedly getting $1.5 million per, and he wanted a bigger paycheck and a 5-year extension despite having never gotten the Caps beyond the 2nd round; MacLellan balked over that request, because ... well, Trotz had never taken anyone past the 2nd round so why fork over $$$$$ to someone who had done about what Bruce Boudreau had done for the Caps?

After that it was pretty much a given Trotz was going to walk for someone else at season's end no matter what happened; it just so happened that it ended with winning the Cup. The Cup win kicked in a 2-year extension but only gave him a $300K raise and he knew he could fetch more on the open market, which is why he walked. So, I can see the argument from MacLellan's POV on why he might balk at Trotz's demands; it just happened to backfire [spectacularly but successfully] for the team.


I respect your hockey knowledge so I hate having to beat you up over this, but your argument here is silly. Your Latin even shows why I am right!
I'm pretty confident that's another logical fallacy, but I have neither the time nor the interest to go dig out the technical name for it.
 
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Remember the situation, though. Trotz was finishing up his 4th year in Washington, reportedly getting $1.5 million per, and he wanted a bigger paycheck and a 5-year extension despite having never gotten the Caps beyond the 2nd round; MacLellan balked over that request, because ... well, Trotz had never taken anyone past the 2nd round so why fork over $$$$$ to someone who had done about what Bruce Boudreau had done for the Caps?

After that it was pretty much a given Trotz was going to walk for someone else at season's end no matter what happened; it just so happened that it ended with winning the Cup. The Cup win kicked in a 2-year extension but only gave him a $300K raise and he knew he could fetch more on the open market, which is why he walked. So, I can see the argument from MacLellan's POV on why he might balk at Trotz's demands; it just happened to backfire [spectacularly but successfully] for the team.



I'm pretty confident that's another logical fallacy, but I have neither the time nor the interest to go dig out the technical name for it.
I think a GM with a good relationship with his coach could have renegotiated a deal that Trotz would accept. It just wasn't enough of a priority. They made their choice, and Trotz went to the Island. I think the Islanders look like the smart party here.
 

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I think a GM with a good relationship with his coach could have renegotiated a deal that Trotz would accept. It just wasn't enough of a priority. They made their choice, and Trotz went to the Island. I think the Islanders look like the smart party here.
When was the last time that happened?!?! Lou has made huge difference there.
 
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I think a GM with a good relationship with his coach could have renegotiated a deal that Trotz would accept. It just wasn't enough of a priority. They made their choice, and Trotz went to the Island. I think the Islanders look like the smart party here.
I don't disagree with that, but we only know how the 2018 postseason turned out. If the Caps don't get past Pittsburgh (yet again), then he's something like 50-60 career in the postseason (he was 43-54 going into last year's playoffs) with zero trips out of the 2nd round in 11 tries, and that's on the heels of winning the division 3 times in a row (including putting up 120 and 118 points before falling to Pittsburgh, the latter in a Game 7 at home). Is that worth making him a top 5-10 paid coach in the league?

Because all MacLellan had to judge him on was the track record prior to last postseason, and I'm hard pressed to answer the above question with "yes" because it requires invoking "potential" and "faith" and so on. Post-Cup? Yeah, maybe MacLellan offers big momey then, but if you're Trotz does it even matter? You wanted love before then and your GM gave you none; why wouldn't you go out and seek somewhere you're appreciated and wooed before the fact and not after?
 

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I don't know if he'll be able to reproduce this kind of success again. Most teams don't have dynasties like that. I'm sure there are measurables you could use to show that a different guy is a 'better' coach in some way. But its all just silliness, because he has demonstrated the ability to motivate and pilot THIS team. End of search. It was true a couple weeks ago, and its undeniably true now.

His tenure will probably end in getting fired in a few years. The Blues will have some ups and downs along the way. But I know the players will respond to him. Surround him with a bright supporting cast of assistant coaches and I think he'll be just fine for a long time.
 

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Anaheim going to call Army on Friday and ask for permission to interview Berube. JK, but that would be funny.

This really shows you how hard it is to win the cup. Berube was able to do what 4 of the 5 winningest coaches were never able to do.
 

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"Interim head coach"... :sarcasm:
 

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