Rumor: Coyotes one of many teams inquiring about Pierre-Luc Dubois (UPD: Off to WPG)
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Vinny Boombatz
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It's more than likely that he "practices" like he plays, which means many practices he's not putting in full effort because he doesn't want to be here. I don't trade for those types of players. If he's a malcontent in Columbus, he'll be a malcontent here in AZ, it's a certainty.
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Worth a call and a chat. I have zero problem having a Schmaltz (and his long contract gone) type of trade for him. He is a 1C.
I have liked A LOT what I have seen from PLD so far in his career and it will take a lot more than the few games this year to turn me off about him.
I think Torts is doing PLD's next coach a favour. PLD will have a mega couple of years once he lands in his next spot.
Some shades of O'Reilly's early career situation if you ask me.
I have liked A LOT what I have seen from PLD so far in his career and it will take a lot more than the few games this year to turn me off about him.
I think Torts is doing PLD's next coach a favour. PLD will have a mega couple of years once he lands in his next spot.
Some shades of O'Reilly's early career situation if you ask me.
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BA and Jarmo have good relationship. I trust BA not to acquire a problem. He’s shown to be good at bringing in the right kind of elements to the lineup so far. I think if we end up trading for PLD, that in and of itself, will make me feel better about PLD. I’m worried about him and I see him as risky. If BA doesn’t think he’s a risk and isn’t worried, that’s good enough for me.
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No, I'd find a way to keep Hayton. He's cost controlled and still has huge upside. If they both hit top gear, you have a real contender.
Schmaltz is the one I'd be keen to be rid of due to his injury history and contract, but he's probably the least valuable of the 3 Jarmo would be really after. I would try to construct a scenario where, if you got zero out of it other than PLD for two years, you'd be okay with the loss. It's hard to see such a bid winning or PLD really wanting to be here to begin wtih.
The Coyotes are already running very lean ammo wise. BA needs prospects like Maccelli and Jenik to hit just to stay afloat, nevermind seriously compete.
I think the opening ask from Jarmo would be Dvorak, Maccelli, good picks. Assuming PLD's reputation isn't shot behind closed doors, he could easily ask for two bluechips or equivalent like Hayton + Soderstrom.
I don't think AZ is the right team to consummate this trade even if the value was there.
I'd probably go up to Schmaltz, Crouse, Farinacci, 2nd. CBJ could probably find a better fit return wise elsewhere.
Depends on what is being said behind the scenes by both camps. Emptying out the organization for a dude pulling a Turris that may not even want to be in AZ would be a bad move and I am happy that BA is smarter than that.
RemoAZ
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I'd do something around Schmaltz and Hayton. I think that could at least get their attention. We could add to that but Dvo too would be tough to swallow although I'd think Torts would love Dvo.
That is way too much. I would pass if they want that, and I'm not as high on Hayton as some.
RemoAZ
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You'd think a #5 overall center, Schmaltz and maybe another decent prospect would be a good haul for a guy asking to be traded and now dogging it to force the issue.
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Pierre-Luc Dubois
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Barrett Hayton
Lawson Crouse
Jason Demers (dump/taxi)
2021 CBJ 2nd
*2022 Conditional
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Brassard-Schmaltz-Kessel
Caggiula-Dvorak-Pitlick
Hayden-Larsson-Fischer
Hunt
OEL-Goligoski
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Oesterle-Lyubushkin
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Kuemper
Raanta
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Pierre-Luc Dubois
To CBJ
Barrett Hayton
Lawson Crouse
Jason Demers (dump/taxi)
2021 CBJ 2nd
*2022 Conditional
Keller-Dubois-Garland
Brassard-Schmaltz-Kessel
Caggiula-Dvorak-Pitlick
Hayden-Larsson-Fischer
Hunt
OEL-Goligoski
Chychrun-Hjammer
Oesterle-Lyubushkin
Capobianco-Soderstrom
Kuemper
Raanta
Hill
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I think it's too much of a haul for a guy who has shown he doesn't give a shit about anything but himself.
RemoAZ
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I'd take the gamble. We don't know what happened. Maybe they told him to sign the contract so they could trade him and now they're dragging their feet. Who knows? When have we ever even had a shot at anything close to a #1 center?
Schmaltz by himself is almost equal to PLD. There is no way I would add another C to that deal. A winger, no problem, but not a young C like Hayton. PLD is a nice piece, but he is no super star. Schmaltz is a long term cost certainty, where PLD in two years might ask for 8 mil. a year.
Are you drinking Jakey?? PLD is a number 1 center who is generally at the top of the league in takeaways. Schmaltz is none of those things. The list of players who could not wait to be rid of Torts is very long. PLD signed a ream friendly deal with tge knowledge tgey were going to find him a new home. With no action he is now about to force their hand. I don't see him wanting AZ but he would be our best forward by a wide margin.
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