Speculation: Coyotes 2021 Offseason Roster Discussion Thread #5

[Foggy1097]

^ Could see that, or with Krejci retiring BOS circles back.
Dvorak for DeBrusk + Studnicka + 2022 1st
It seems like we could do better than that…but we could also then turn around and trade a 1st and a 2nd + Hayton for Eichel. A guy can dream right…

 

[Grimes]

In The Box - July 30, 2021 - Hour 4

I haven’t listened yet. But apparently a good source is saying Brannstrom could be traded for a player that helps them today. They may want a center.

Brannstrom is an NHL player and is four years younger than Dvorak, and a year younger than Timmins.

I could see BA being excited about this concept:

Keller-*Wright*-Guenther

Chychrun-Timmins
Brannstrom-Soderstrom

Prosvetov


^ I don’t want to trade Dvorak for Brannstrom. But I could absolutely see it happening.

Doubt they talk to us after we sent them a center that could play in Derek Stepan.

Brannstrom makes me think though. I also like a lot of the defensemen in the top ten this year and we are so weak on center. If Hayton or Jenik make it on the roster out of camp and hold their own then maybe revisit midyear? Wouldn't be disappointed though

 

[Mosby]

Ehh don’t really want D as the primary return for Dvorak

 

[rt]

Ehh don’t really want D as the primary return for Dvorak

Me neither. But I could see it.

 

[Schemp]

I wonder if O'Brien will be a Coyote and not a Roadrunner? Maybe carry 14 forwards, at least at the start of the season.

 

[rt]

In The Box - July 30, 2021 - Hour 4

Listened. I think this is the dude who called Stepan to Ottawa a week prior. He’s half joking half not on a lot of it. Trying to be cagey. Said that he expects the Sens to add one opening night forward. Likely a center. See Brannstrom as the trade bait. Says GMs like to deal with the same GMs (familiarity, creatures of habit) and he thinks Brannstrom is the guy to watch from a trade prospective. Predicts he won’t be on the opening night roster because he’ll be traded.

Overall, pretty flimsy sounding. But Dvo would check every single box if the dude wasn’t just bluffing.

 

[Mosby]

I forgot Capobianco had a one way deal. Can’t imagine we’re gonna be thrilled paying him 850k to play in Tucson.

Maybe we ship him out for an overpaid LD plus a pick?

 

[JasonDemersWasOkay]

Is brannstrom even considered blue chip anymore? I feel like he was at the time of the mark stone trade but he hasn’t really taken that next step. Also I feel like we need a center prospect in a Dvorak trade

 

[DoanStopBelievin]

I forgot Capobianco had a one way deal. Can’t imagine we’re gonna be thrilled paying him 850k to play in Tucson.

Maybe we ship him out for an overpaid LD plus a pick?

I honestly have a creeping feeling that Capo might actually have a bit of a good year for the NHL squad

Edit: this is based on literally nothing lol

 

[Mangosteen]

[QUOTE="cobra427, post: 179691096, member: 161695"It could be record year for futility, hope I am wrong. We have to be the heavy favorite for worst team in the NHL.[/QUOTE]

You mean in the history of the NHL. We are getting to Thrashers bad. Can we beat there 2000 season, BA hold my bear

 

[Heldig]

In The Box - July 30, 2021 - Hour 4

I haven’t listened yet. But apparently a good source is saying Brannstrom could be traded for a player that helps them today. They may want a center.

Brannstrom is an NHL player and is four years younger than Dvorak, and a year younger than Timmins.

I could see BA being excited about this concept:

Keller-*Wright*-Guenther

Chychrun-Timmins
Brannstrom-Soderstrom

Prosvetov


^ I don’t want to trade Dvorak for Brannstrom. But I could absolutely see it happening.

Brannstrom does not get Dvorak 1 for 1.

 

[rt]

Brannstrom does not get Dvorak 1 for 1.

I agree.

 

[rt]

I forgot Capobianco had a one way deal. Can’t imagine we’re gonna be thrilled paying him 850k to play in Tucson.

Maybe we ship him out for an overpaid LD plus a pick?

Probably why his name initially came up with the first Stralman rumors.

 

[RemoAZ]

Brannstrom does not get Dvorak 1 for 1.

Schmaltz

 

[The don godfather]

Bruins fan here I think were gonna dance together again in regards to Dvorak. Bruins need a 2 C. Dvorak fits the bill. Donny and BA were known to be chatting about this before. I think they revisit. Should be interesting next week ahead I believe.

 

[Grimes]

Bruins fan here I think were gonna dance together again in regards to Dvorak. Bruins need a 2 C. Dvorak fits the bill. Donny and BA were known to be chatting about this before. I think they revisit. Should be interesting next week ahead I believe.

What do you add to Studnicka and a 1st?

 

[The don godfather]

What do you add to Studnicka and a 1st?

Sounds very expensive doubt donny would do that . Maybe stud and a 2nd ? You guys sure loves those 2nds .

 

[Heldig]

Sounds very expensive doubt donny would do that . Maybe stud and a 2nd ? You guys sure loves those 2nds .

Boston does not have a lot of young talent to choose from for Arizona to consider trading DVO for.

 

[Grimes]

Sounds very expensive doubt donny would do that . Maybe stud and a 2nd ? You guys sure loves those 2nds .

Then what would you pay for a 25 year old Krejci on a good contract?

 

[The don godfather]

Boston does not have a lot of young talent to choose from for Arizona to consider trading DVO for.

I believe debrusk and Dvorak numbers are quite identical career wise also age. If we added a 2nd I think its pretty fair . Its how you value your assets I guess.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I believe debrusk and Dvorak numbers are quite identical career wise also age. If we added a 2nd I think its pretty fair . Its how you value your assets I guess.

It’s always best to look past the numbers.

 

[Heldig]

I believe debrusk and Dvorak numbers are quite identical career wise also age. If we added a 2nd I think its pretty fair . Its how you value your assets I guess.

You are not asking about Dvorak so he can play a middle 6 winger role, right?
Offensive numbers may be similar but the rest of their game really isn't. I take the 200 foot, high IQ centre that wins face offs, is good at getting the puck out of his zone and has offense upside.

 

[XX]

I believe debrusk and Dvorak numbers are quite identical career wise also age. If we added a 2nd I think its pretty fair . Its how you value your assets I guess.

DeBrusk is a replacement level winger, which makes him about as useful as a second asshole at his caphit. Dvorak is a two way center who can win faceoffs and is cost controlled. Even if we pretend their respective opportunities were the same re: offense, Dvorak is the much more valuable asset. That's why you're trading for him.

It does not help that the Bruins have made their feelings about DeBrusk clear, and the Coyotes love Dvorak/have no reason to move him unless the return is outstanding. AZ fans got shouted down when we said Garland was worth a top 10 pick or equivalent and then shouted down again when we insisted Kuemper would return a first.

Bill Armstrong has this under control. He's going to get a top prospect or just keep the player. He hasn't done a single illogical thing so far this offseason. I doubt he's about to start when it comes time to deal a player that is actually critical to the on ice performance of the team.

 

[Grimes]

I believe debrusk and Dvorak numbers are quite identical career wise also age. If we added a 2nd I think its pretty fair . Its how you value your assets I guess.

Ones a LW and ones a center. I think he is an interesting add to see what Tourigny could get out of him and him getting to play in the top 6 here. But feels like a slight dump for a guy who may have run his course in Boston. I made a post of Studnicka+DeBrusk+ 1st I think that's close enough but don't love it. We'll see if that's enough soonish I guess.

 

[The don godfather]

DeBrusk is a replacement level winger, which makes him about as useful as a second asshole at his caphit. Dvorak is a two way center who can win faceoffs and is cost controlled. Even if we pretend their respective opportunities were the same re: offense, Dvorak is the much more valuable asset. That's why you're trading for him.

It does not help that the Bruins have made their feelings about DeBrusk clear, and the Coyotes love Dvorak/have no reason to move him unless the return is outstanding. AZ fans got shouted down when we said Garland was worth a top 10 pick or equivalent and then shouted down again when we insisted Kuemper would return a first.

Bill Armstrong has this under control. He's going to get a top prospect or just keep the player. He hasn't done a single illogical thing so far this offseason. I doubt he's about to start when it comes time to deal a player that is actually critical to the on ice performance of the team.

Agree with everything except debrusk isn't chicken feed scored 27 goals. Only 24. Hes worth something and not a dump . If I add 2nd and 3rd pick or something with him it should perk Armstrong ears.