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GloryDaze4877 said:
I agree about the description, but will add that one of Dumba's issues has always been that he is willing (ala Phaneuf) to take himself out of position to make a hit. Not an attractive trait IMO. As far as their development goes, if Chiller had a coach that would stick him in there and live with the inevitable rookie mistakes, he would be pretty close to Dumba, if not better IMO.

JB is not nearly the skater that Miller or Dumba is, but he's a helluva lot bigger than either. I think that he can sustain that physical style of play because of his size. I think Dumba, if he continues to play that style, is, for lack of a better term, writing checks that his body won't be able to cash.
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Absolutely a concern for Dumba at his size unless he's one of those physical freaks.

JB had the same issue with making bad reads going for big hits, part of his charm, gotta take the bad with the good! :)
 
tburns21 said:
the talks of people on the move out of edm has started again... would there be interest in a year of nail yakupov @2.5M for a RW if say hayes/seids(1M retained)+2nd was going the other way?

they would get a big RW (yes he's a little soft) but is compiling some decent stats, seids at 3M for the PK shutdown role and a 2nd probably isn't too bad for intake on an underachieving RW.

you line him up with spooner on the 3rd line and see how he does, if not you flip him.

and all the while we've secretly developed some cap space!!
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Doug MacLean on fan 590 this am suggesting Bruins would be very interested in Eberle to play with Krejci.
 
bp13 said:
A #1 dman is a pipe dream via trade if you ask me. Shattenkirk is a top-pairing dman in the NHL along the lines of a Seabrook in Chicago, maybe slightly better. He's instantly our best defenseman, easily, and takes this defense from bad to fair.

At this point if you have to overpay for such a guy you do it. You don't have one in your system who looks to be ready to contribute during a window where Bergeron and Krejci are top-level and Chara is still contributing. You have no choice.
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I like Shattenkirk, but you guys are overrating him. Best dman here? I agree, but he will make part of a solution, he is not the solution. That's why I don't think he could change "bad" to "fair".
 
bbfan419 said:
Dumba is one of the most overrated players being discussed in trades right now, all he does is take dumb penalties. I would not trade Eriksson straight up for him, to me Loui at the TDL has much more value than some on here think. In fact if we deal him to the Wild for Dumba it is Minnesota that should add to the deal.
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Eriksson is a solid top 6 winger, young D seem to be very difficult to trade for, impact D have to be developed or signed as UFA's, if their team allows them to get to UFA status.

I believe it has as much to do with the position availability as players being discussed. I would still lean towards a first + for Eriksson, then turn that into an impact D in the off season. Deal Koko and other prospects to fill Eriksson's spot or give Vatrano a real shot at top 6 minutes and see what he can do.
 
Blowfish said:
Doug MacLean on fan 590 this am suggesting Bruins would be very interested in Eberle to play with Krejci.
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Not sure the Bruins and Oilers are that great of trading partners anymore due to our lack of D/their lack of D/Chia, but if Eriksson goes out and Eberle comes in, I'd be pretty happy. If we're going to pay 6m for one of them, I'd rather pay the guy who's 5 years younger and has been a consistent 60-65 point scorer for the past few years.

Beleskey-Krecji-Eberle
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak

Don't really want Beleskey on the top line, but until we can fix that, that's a pretty great top-6.
 
Fenian24 said:
Eriksson is a solid top 6 winger, young D seem to be very difficult to trade for, impact D have to be developed or signed as UFA's, if their team allows them to get to UFA status.

I believe it has as much to do with the position availability as players being discussed. I would still lean towards a first + for Eriksson, then turn that into an impact D in the off season. Deal Koko and other prospects to fill Eriksson's spot or give Vatrano a real shot at top 6 minutes and see what he can do.
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I pretty much agree would rather deal Loui for a first + good prospect than Dumba who has question marks.
 
I think many here are in for a surprise when they find out the price tag for a young d-man with upside.
Dumba is right shot, high end skater with some edge and a cannon for a shot. Only 21 years old.
Loui (ufa), Koko (busted prospect) and mid/late first round pick is not overpayment in my humble opinion.
 
wintersej said:
JB also took himself out of position to get the big hit until his late 20s. Is it fixable with Dumba, too?
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Miller takes himself out of position to accomplish nothing, so there is some work there, too.

JB also was in and out of the lineup his rookie season in Boston. I have zero problem with how they are handling Miller and think you are way off comparing his upside to Dumba's.

While Dumba isn't tall, he is thick, so while I do share your concern on his writing checks he can't cash, I don't put nearly as much weight on it.

I'd be happy with any of the MIN D coming to Boston.
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We will have to agree to disagree on this. Thinks it's a typical "grass is greener" reaction with Dumba, and that you are overrating him and underrating Miller (Colin). He's not a Top 4 D at this point, and what you were Ok with giving up, should net you a better player than Dumba.

As another poster pointed out, Dumba is 6'0" and 190 pounds. For comparison's sake, Colin Miller is 6'1", 195 pounds. Maxim Chudinov (5'11", 205) is thick...Dumba is not particularly thick IMO.
 
dup7 said:
I think many here are in for a surprise when they find out the price tag for a young d-man with upside.
Dumba is right shot, high end skater with some edge and a cannon for a shot. Only 21 years old.
Loui (ufa), Koko (busted prospect) and mid/late first round pick is not overpayment in my humble opinion.
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I think many are in for a surprise when they find out what Dumba is. As I said above, you should be able to do better than Dumba for Loui, Koko, and a 1st.
 
ranold26 said:
http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey...zdeno-chara/IQZdJqC14eDjoFsrM7ii2L/story.html
It’s time for the Bruins to trade Zdeno Chara
By Jimmy Murphy..



Grabs the popcorn.:popcorn:
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Murphy calls us the "ruins" at one point in the article; must just have been a Freudian slip.

If it means that we trade Chara AND LE, great. If it means trade Chara to keep LE, not great.

Don't think it matters much; we broke Chara, we own Chara. Can't see any team buying another year at $7M for him.

oh well.
 
The problem with traditional seidenberg now is who do you replace him with? You think the d is bad now. Yes he has lost a step in his game, but trading him at the deadline you would lose his experience and the intangibles of knowing what it takes to win in the playoffs. Explore trading him in the offseason unless you have an upgrade on defense coming back now.
 
GloryDaze4877 said:
I think many are in for a surprise when they find out what Dumba is. As I said above, you should be able to do better than Dumba for Loui, Koko, and a 1st.
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I respect your opinion. Asking honestly - who do you see out there, better than Dumba that could reasonably be had for that package?
 
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