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I'm a fan of that 3rd pairing, but Barron is not picking up any value in this situation.
I don’t see Barron having any much more value anymore.
I'm a fan of that 3rd pairing, but Barron is not picking up any value in this situation.
That's right. Now we'll have opposing teams' regular lineup scrubs taking runs at our best guys. I'm looking at you, Max Dummi.We play a real-life NHL game tomorrow! Not a clown show one where nothing matters and other team's scrubs take runs at our best guys!
Yay!!!
That;s cause he ain't got any.I'm a fan of that 3rd pairing, but Barron is not picking up any value in this situation.
I hope it's not his groin. He bulked up this summer. When one bulks up it's important to also strengthen one's core, including groin, hip flexor, etc... And he's had nagging groin problems in the past.
Would be kinda ironic that he didn't hurt his groin at the start of camp like all the previous year, it happened in the last game instead.I hope it's not his groin. He bulked up this summer. When one bulks up it's important to also strengthen one's core, including groin, hip flexor, etc... And he's had nagging groin problems in the past.
Armia was our fourth leading goal scorer last year.Veterans typically don't get "promoted" or even "demoted" based on preseason performances.
Armia on the 2nd unit is a reflection of the team's depth or lack thereof.
Armia was our fourth leading goal scorer last year.
How many new guys beat him out at camp this year?
Newhook: 0.47 | Dach: 0.47 | Armia: 0.35 |
Granlund: 0.66 | Smith: N/A | Zetterlund: 0.46 |
Hall: 0.84 | Kurashev: 0.44 | Bertuzzi: 0.64 |
Fabbri: 0.50 | McTavish: 0.58 | Zegras: 0.73 |
JVR: 0.62 | Fantilli: 0.55 | Labanc: 0.47 |
McBain: 0.35 | Cooley: 0.54 | Guenther: 0.64 |
Greig: 0.38 | Norris: 0.67 | Batherson: 0.73 |
Schwartz: 0.65 | Stephenson: 0.55 | Burakovsky: 0.57 |
Zary: 0.54 | Backlund: 0.54 | Coleman: 0.46 |
Tatar: 0.56 | Hischier: 0.78 | Mercer: 0.53 |
The more we got through preseason and started to see things unfold, with injuries and how players were playing, it seemed more and more that we were primed for a bottom 10 finish. It's hard for me to pick more than 4 or 5 teams that I feel pretty comfortable about us finishing above. Maybe I'm wrong - I hope so.A huge part of our problem last year was our complete lack of offense outside of the 1st line. I don't expect any notable improvement from our bottom 6, and with Laine gone our 2nd line looks among the roughest in the league if you look at it from a career PPG point of view. I decided to take a quick look at how our projected 2nd line's career PPG compared to the projected 2nd lines of the other bottom 10 teams last season.
Armia is dead last among right wings and tied with McBain to have the lowest career PPG out of the group at 0.35. Armia's is technically slightly higher, but he's also 7 years older and likely not going to improve.
Newhook is 3rd last among left wings and Dach is 2nd last among centers. A huge part of our potential success is both of these players making significant improvements, but with Dach's injury troubles and missed development time I'm not sure how much of a step he can make this year.
We're arguably going into the season with the worst 2nd line in the league, and on top of that we have a hilariously overpaid bottom 6 that's also likely going to be bottom of the barrel.
I'm not trying to be too much of a doomer, but our special teams look terrible, our bottom 9 looks worrisome and we're a team riddled with injuries. I'm excited to see if our 1st line can carry off their momentum from last season and I like our defense pairs, but it's going to take about 10 miracles happening simultaneously for this to be a playoff team.
Montreal (28th)
Newhook: 0.47 Dach: 0.47 Armia: 0.35
San Jose (32nd)
Granlund: 0.66 Smith: N/A Zetterlund: 0.46
Chicago (31st)
Hall: 0.84 Kurashev: 0.44 Bertuzzi: 0.64
Anaheim (30th)
Fabbri: 0.50 McTavish: 0.58 Zegras: 0.73
Columbus (29th)
JVR: 0.62 Fantilli: 0.55 Labanc: 0.47
Utah (27th)
McBain: 0.35 Cooley: 0.54 Guenther: 0.64
Ottawa (26th)
Greig: 0.38 Norris: 0.67 Batherson: 0.73
Seattle (25th)
Schwartz: 0.65 Stephenson: 0.55 Burakovsky: 0.57
Calgary (24th)
Zary: 0.54 Backlund: 0.54 Coleman: 0.46
New Jersey (23rd)
Tatar: 0.56 Hischier: 0.78 Mercer: 0.53
Another lottery pick wouldn't be the end of the world with how some of the draft eligibles have started out. Martone and Misa are absolutely dominating the OHL right now.The more we got through preseason and started to see things unfold, with injuries and how players were playing, it seemed more and more that we were primed for a bottom 10 finish. It's hard for me to pick more than 4 or 5 teams that I feel pretty comfortable about us finishing above. Maybe I'm wrong - I hope so.
Barron must have been on for all four given the beating he's taking.
Barron was on for 1 GA at 5v5.Barron must have been on for all four given the beating he's taking.
I like you I don't have to go around researching jack shit.Barron was on for 1 GA at 5v5.
There's no talking to some on here........Barron was on for 1 GA at 5v5.
Yeah it's not exactly a satisfying process to watch game in game out over multiple years but we're pretty much just in a holding pattern until some of these young guys get from the 19-22 range into the 23-26 age range while the bad contracts filter out (and guys like Hage/Demidov/Reinbacher filter in). I keep harping on this point but we lost our entire veteran core and had Gallagher decline heavily in summer 2021 and that aggregate loss combined with the black hole of the 2010-2017 drafts is what's keeping us in this slow and steady position right now since we need young players to be floor and ceiling raisers when Savard and Matheson are the only vets of any real consequence on the roster.I don't think they're praying for anything. No one has said they need to make the playoffs just that they want to see improvements in their young players and be in a position to play meaningful games towards the end of it.
Improvement is going to have to come from the young players: Guhle, Xhekaj, Hutson, Struble & Barron on D. You can't expect more from Matheson/Savard.