Value of: Could Erik Karlsson be traded @50% retention?

CupfortheSharks

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He obviously has value at 50%. The real question: Is there any team that would take Karlsson without retention in exchange for a cap dump with less than 5 years left on their contract.
 

GOilers88

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“The stretch where he was generational”

Lol. He wasn’t originally generational. Then he was. Then he wasn’t again. What is it with people and labeling everyone generational?
 

wonton15

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Which teams do you think would've given Karlsson 28.75 million over 5 years had he been a UFA this summer?
Honestly... a lot of teams would at that price, even if it takes him to 37. He's still a very very good player.
 

Mattb124

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Karlsson would not need 50% retention to be traded. He is worth $8-9MM, just not his $11.5M cap hit,
 
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I doubt that there's a deal out there at this point in time that would convince SJ to move him, let alone retain 50% for 5 years. Karlsson is an excellent defenseman and we should see more out of him now that he's not competing for icetime/role with Burns. I know the last couple of years were rough for him, but SJ sucked last season and was one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, and the year prior wasn't much better.
 

mouser

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I don’t see any justification right now for SJ retaining 5 years on EK, even at less than 50%. Burns is already using a retention slot for 3 years. Locking up two slots for that long is not a wise GM move unless SJ is totally committed to a rebuild.

SJ management doesn’t seem to have my interest in a rebuild right now, though I wouldn’t be surprised if that changes a season or two down the road.
 

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Would the Sharks be interested in trading Karlsson (50% retained) to the Canucks for Dickinson and Poolman and Pearson?

Both Dickinson and Poolman probably have negative value while Pearson has value above replacement.

All on are younger and on shorter contracts than Karlsson, so this benefits the Sharks.

I think that is about the best kind of offer they are going to receive.
 
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Would the Sharks be interested in trading Karlsson (50% retained) to the Canucks for Dickinson and Poolman and Pearson?

Both Dickinson and Poolman probably have negative value while Pearson has value above replacement.

All on are younger and on shorter contracts than Karlsson, so this benefits the Sharks.

I think that is about the best kind of offer they are going to receive.

At 50%? There would be other teams that easily top that offer. That has to be a joke.
 

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Would the Sharks be interested in trading Karlsson (50% retained) to the Canucks for Dickinson and Poolman and Pearson?

Both Dickinson and Poolman probably have negative value while Pearson has value above replacement.

All on are younger and on shorter contracts than Karlsson, so this benefits the Sharks.

I think that is about the best kind of offer they are going to receive.
I swear some people can’t grasp the difference between bad players, and bad contracts.
 

Izzy Goodenough

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I swear some people can’t grasp the difference between bad players, and bad contracts.

If you think Karlsson's and Viasic's and Couture's contracts are not a profound drag on the present and future success of the team, the Sharks should try to leap the abyss with them on the team.

Otherwise, rinse and spit.

I swear some Fans can't grasp when their franchise is royally hooped.
 
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GermanSpitfire

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If you think Karlsson's and Viasic's and Couture's contracts are not a profound drag on the present and future success of the team, the Sharks should try to leap the abyss with them on the team.

Otherwise, rinse and spit.

I swear some Fans can't grasp when their franchise is royally hooped.
Where did I mention Couture or Vlasic?

Don’t think anyone is disagreeing that at Karlsson’s full cap hit he is relatively unmoveable - but at $5.75M, he has significant value around the league without a doubt. Which is what this thread was created for.

FWIW: I’m an Ottawa Senators fan
 

nbwingsfan

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Just cant happen,
suicidal for Sharks to commit to burning 5 seasons >$5M
Wild were kinda desperate when they ate the Parise/Suter deals, but Grier wont handcuff himself that way

Fun click bait topic tho...
I doubt San Jose gets close to the playoffs in the next 5 years anyways. But yeah, that’s a pretty big chunk to absorb for a lot of years

Which teams do you think would've given Karlsson 28.75 million over 5 years had he been a UFA this summer?
Many, most likely.
 

crowi

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Every single team might be a bit generous, but I agree there would be at least 10+ teams interested at that price.
I think Karlsson is getting underrated badly. Although COVID capspace could affect my post. At less than $6M Karlsson is one of the best deals in the league.
 
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