Speculation: Could Bedard be offersheeted next summer?

[SimpleJack]

Look I’m gonna be blunt here…the one thing I can’t stand is this relentless need by certain posters with a clear and obvious agenda to point out that before being drafted Bedard was overhyped and wrongfully compared to McDavid/Crosby by certain analysts/pundits. I just can’t believe how many times this has to be said. No matter how much good he does, no matter what promise he shows, it’s always the same response: “But what about pre draft when those random other people said he would be even better? As good as McDavid and generational??” And it’s always the same usual suspects repeating it with the same amount of snark.

For example, If you can’t tell by now that Whiskey has an agenda against Bedard then you’ve got the IQ of a mosquito.

I’ll break it down for those of you that are a little slow(I know, ironic coming from someone with my username, right?):

There’s a lot of posts here, and naturally some of them are at least somewhat incorrect either in favor of or against Bedard(both those praising and those bashing him). In return you then have the replies to those posts that correct the initial poster and/or present evidence to refute someone’s BS. Whiskey has liked I’m pretty sure literally every single one of the replies to those posts that were praising him too much/incorrectly. And how many of the replies to posts that were wrongfully calling Bedard out/bashing Bedard has Whiskey liked?? Look for yourself. I haven’t seen one yet. Not one. Unless he reads this and then goes back and likes some for cover, which I wouldn’t put past him.

Anyways…it’s beyond obvious, and it’s sad really. He makes a lot of good points and is correct in many cases when he’s pointing out that Bedard hasn’t been on a generational/McDavid-caliber level. But he’s not neutral like he pretends to be. Not in a million years. If he was then we’d see that same sound logic being used to defend Bedard, at least once or twice, given his level of overall participation in the general Bedard discussion. And THAT is what bothers the hell out of me. And to think all of it is just because he’s salty that Bedard is better than Jack Hughes….SMH.

 

[MisterT]

This would be hilarious if they lost Bedard.

Shouldn't have had the pick in the first place as teams with far lesser issues have lost first round picks.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

But he’s not neutral like he pretends to be. Not in a million years. If he was then we’d see that same sound logic being used to defend Bedard, at least once or twice, given his level of overall participation in the general Bedard discussion. And THAT is what bothers the hell out of me. And to think all of it is just because he’s salty that Bedard is better than Jack Hughes….SMH.

Yeah I've never once said anything good about Bedard

Bedard is a world class PP weapon. I always thought he was grossly misused on the PP last year.

Agreed, everything we've seen from him thus far suggest he's on track to have a HOF level career.

Bedard is one of the most clutch young players I can remember following. Dude has always seemed to show up in big moments.

He's gonna make a lot of big plays for the Hawks over the next decade.

Bedard has incredible vision, really underrated aspect of his game.

And I have definitely never defended him

Unfortunately, there just haven't been a lot of redeeming things in Bedard's game in the last few months, up until very recently when he was finally moved to the wing.

I was guilty like everyone else of overrating him coming out of junior. Maybe not to the same extent, but I did absolutely overrate him.

Still, I've been more right about him than homers like yourself who prefer to spend time attacking me, accusing me of an agenda than discussing the player. When he's been good, I've been extremely complimentary. He just hasn't been good this year.

 

[Fatass]

No shot, Hawks match any offer. I guess the question is if he has another mediocre year and some team wants to give him 10+, do the Hawks consider the four firsts? Bedard still has great potential and is a work horse, so they probably still match.

From the Hawks perspective, why wouldn't they? Not like they have money going elsewhere and Bedard is still gonna have great potential.

This ^^^
Bedard, especially considering the hype from the league and press, has been beyond disappointing. No club will offer sheet him at the cost of four firsts. And if a team was dumb enough to actually do such, the Hawks should absolutely take the compensation.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Shoot your shot, Kent Hughes!!!

8 years x 12M

 

[Mrfenn92]

Shoot your shot, Kent Hughes!!!

8 years x 12M

Hawks match

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Offering like 11 or 12 million is such an easy match for the Hawks.

It’s like when the Habs offered Aho 8.5 million per and the Canes literally laughed in their face.

If you want to make the Hawks actually think about, offer 17 million, which is basically the max.

 

[Space umpire]

What about all the other sources of broadcasting revenue for the NHL?

Edit: This won’t change your well made point but I’m curious.

I was going to post that. … of the leagues he links only the MLB and NBA have local tv revenue. The NHL has 32 separate TV deals paying revenue to teams.
Include that revenue and the NHL makes his big list … and not at the bottom of it.

 

[Space umpire]

Shouldn't have had the pick in the first place as teams with far lesser issues have lost first round picks.

What issues?

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

Not a chance.

 

[TheDoldrums]

no one seems to be discussing the interesting part of Friedman's statement, that there could be changes to the offer sheet system. Impossible to know how the Hawks and other teams will act if they're playing under different rules.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

All I know is I am not signing an 8 year deal that young.

Give me 4 or 5 years max. Might even take a 1 or 2 year deal if my numbers aren't high enough.

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

This would be hilarious if they lost Bedard.

I have nothing against their fans or Chicago in general. But after being complacent in sexual assault, it would be deserving karma. Delayed but deserved. It is NOT okay what they got away with

 

[General Fanager]

All I know is I am not signing an 8 year deal that young.

Give me 4 or 5 years max. Might even take a 1 or 2 year deal if my numbers aren't high enough.

I agree.

With the cap going up so aggressively soon I can't see him signing long term....

 

[Space umpire]

I have nothing against their fans or Chicago in general. But after being complacent in sexual assault, it would be deserving karma. Delayed but deserved. It is NOT okay what they got away with

What did they get away with? Who still has a job that was involved?
Plus it might be different in your high school however in the grown up corporate environment as long as no laws were broken, when the executive vice president says to stand down, that he will handle something … you stand down.
Note, if you read the reports, everyone’s shock when he showed up at the cup celebration, because they all thought McD would have fired him.
Also note, and this is the part nobody mentions, Beach wasn’t forced or tricked into anything. He also wasn’t promised anything. He weighed his options and made the decision to partake thinking it would help him make the team. Unfortunately for him he didn’t have the talent.

 

[Volica]

They'll match anything.
That said, if it's really going this way, what's stopping him from just asking out of Chicago?

 

[TheFridge]

Yes, I've seen this low threshold for "generational" and I wonder if it's coming from non-native English speakers. There's only been two generational centers in the cap era; Crosby and McDavid. They were elite NHL players at age 18/19. Reality is Bedard lacks the physical tools to be a generational talent like those two. So unless he has more size and mobility coming, he'll never come close to those two. Being generational is a unique confluence of a wide variety of traits that he lacks. This is no fault of Bedard's.

Bedard's draft year was generational. There's no amount of revisionist history that can refute that.

71 goals, 143 points in 57 games in the WHL. 23 points in 7 games en route to gold for Canada at the WJC. 20 points in 7 games in the WHL playoffs.

Bedard is also an inch/inch and a half shorter than Crosby.

McDavid is the best player I've ever seen. Bedard is obviously not going to be McDavid. Crosby is a top-10 player all-time, he probably won't be that good either. But he's also two years into his NHL career, playing on objectively worse teams than Crosby or McDavid came into the league with.

 

[DaveG]

All I know is I am not signing an 8 year deal that young.

Give me 4 or 5 years max. Might even take a 1 or 2 year deal if my numbers aren't high enough.

Yep. If I'm Bedard I'm telling my agent the longest I'm signing for this summer is 3 years.

 

[bert]

Yeah I've never once said anything good about Bedard





And I have definitely never defended him

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Unfortunately, there just haven't been a lot of redeeming things in Bedard's game in the last few months, up until very recently when he was finally moved to the wing.

I was guilty like everyone else of overrating him coming out of junior. Maybe not to the same extent, but I did absolutely overrate him.

Still, I've been more right about him than homers like yourself who prefer to spend time attacking me, accusing me of an agenda than discussing the player. When he's been good, I've been extremely complimentary. He just hasn't been good this year.

Why didnt this happen so long ago? He can be an absolute star as a Winger. He clearly is not a center, but to maximize his skillset he belongs on the wing. Which will make him lethal.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Why didnt this happen so long ago? He can be an absolute star as a Winger. He clearly is not a center, but to maximize his skillset he belongs on the wing. Which will make him lethal.

Agreed. He just made a beautiful play to set up Donato coming down the left wing. He could be the league's top scoring winger in a few years.

 

[pekka55]

Bedard's draft year was generational. There's no amount of revisionist history that can refute that.

71 goals, 143 points in 57 games in the WHL. 23 points in 7 games en route to gold for Canada at the WJC. 20 points in 7 games in the WHL playoffs.

Bedard is also an inch/inch and a half shorter than Crosby.

McDavid is the best player I've ever seen. Bedard is obviously not going to be McDavid. Crosby is a top-10 player all-time, he probably won't be that good either. But he's also two years into his NHL career, playing on objectively worse teams than Crosby or McDavid came into the league with.

Can you really be generational before you've played even one single game in the big leagues against grown ups?

When will people learn? There's been thousands of players over the years that were amazing in the juniors, but then when it came time to go up against the very best of the best they were highly average or sometimes even completely useless. It's one thing to dominate teenagers, sometimes that doesn't translate to the big leagues.

As to the "Bedard plays on a shit team", sure there's a point there. However, his team mates outplay him regularly. You can't blame Bedards shitty play on the people that actually outplay him day in and day out.

 

[MoneyManny]

The NHL and NBA were once comparable, that train left the station a long time ago. Oh yeah, Gary took the NHL off ESPN and put his league on a cable channel no one could find! He literally did that! And the owners kept him!

What are the odds the new MLB broadcasting deal will be orders of magnitude above what Gary's poverty league gets over the next three years? How long til he gets the NHL kicked off EPSN/Disney?

Who cares though? Do you have stocks in the NHL or are you a player/owner?

It seems like a weird thing to focus on as a fan. League is plenty rich enough to attract all the talent in the world and to have (mostly) pro quality broadcasts.

 

[bert]

Agreed. He just made a beautiful play to set up Donato coming down the left wing. He could be the league's top scoring winger in a few years.

Could be a Marner type situation with a Matthews release.

 

[centipede2233]

here’s my take, most good competitive teams don’t have all of their next 4 years picks. So that leaves bubble teams and crap teams 1sts. If I get detroits 1sts or Anaheims 1sts for Bedard, I likely take the 1sts. One player doesn’t impact the team much. Show me one superstar that’s won a cup, and I’ll show you a good balanced team depth to defence to goaltending.

 

[Mr Positive]

They'll match anything so there's no point. GMs do offer sheets if they think they will succeed