Speculation: Could Bedard be offersheeted next summer?

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Button and Friedman are suggesting that Bedard might be angling for a way out of Chicago:



Then Friedman added this:

"Why would anyone sign before that? Just to see maybe if anything changes?" Friedman said. "Now, if you get an idea that the rules aren't going to change, then you don't do it. But I did have someone say to me (that) for a star, for one of the top players - and Bedard is the franchise player in Chicago - you might wait to see if any rules change."

A new CBA could alter offer sheet dynamics and salary structures, and place the Blackhawks in a difficult spot if other teams make offers to their emerging star.​
 
No shot, Hawks match any offer. I guess the question is if he has another mediocre year and some team wants to give him 10+, do the Hawks consider the four firsts? Bedard still has great potential and is a work horse, so they probably still match.

From the Hawks perspective, why wouldn't they? Not like they have money going elsewhere and Bedard is still gonna have great potential.
 
I wouldn't sign if I were him either. His numbers aren't exactly at a place where Chicago is going to offer him a player friendly 8 year deal.

Better off waiting and boosting your value next season.

As for the new CBA altering the dynamics of an offer sheet I'm not exactly sure what that means, but as they stand today Chicago is matching pretty much anything I'd think
 
Does it really make sense for Bedard unless it's a 4 year deal that takes him right to FA. His agent would know the Hawks would almost assuredly match.
A one year offer sheet takes him to ufa, that’s what the canes did with kotkaniemi

I guess it’s not technically ufa but rfa with minimum offer within 10% of aav iirc
 
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Obviously he doesn't "suck." But he was falsely advertised as being generational which leads to resentment of the title and is also contributing to the perceptions of Chicago being disappointing.
He's 19 you have no idea what he is going to turn out to be later in his career. Look at Nathan MacKinnon's first 4 seasons for reference.
No he wasn't falsely advertised as being generational.
 
2 more years and I could see Bedard not wanting to be in Chicago
Doesn't help the roster they are building around him. Kid was choked when they dealt Hall for no real reason other than to get a draft pick that won't have any impact for probably 5 years if ever.

Not saying they should stop the rebuild and sign as many top free agents as possible, but you also have to support your young pieces to help develop them.

If I'm his agent I'm talking to Davidson and letting him know this. You have a summer to actually show you want to improve this club or in 26-27 we will look at all options.
 
Hawks would probably just match anything unless it’s like a Matthews contract with huge AAV and low term in which case they’d at least consider four first round picks.

Realistically if a contract isn’t already done hawks will just wait around after his third year ends until he signs a 7/8 year extension or like a 2-year bridge if he so insists. Anything that isn’t a trash 4 or 5 year term is fine.
 
Doesn't help the roster they are building around him. Kid was choked when they dealt Hall for no real reason other than to get a draft pick that won't have any impact for probably 5 years if ever.

Not saying they should stop the rebuild and sign as many top free agents as possible, but you also have to support your young pieces to help develop them.

If I'm his agent I'm talking to Davidson and letting him know this. You have a summer to actually show you want to improve this club or in 26-27 we will look at all options.

Exactly. It also doesn't help that all the good vets on the team like Jones wanted out. Hard for a kid to be happy and motivated when he's in the room with a bunch of disgruntled vets that are angling out.

You have to wonder if the days of kids being ok with lengthy rebuilds is done.
 
He's 19 you have no idea what he is going to turn out to be later in his career. Look at Nathan MacKinnon's first 4 seasons for reference.
No he wasn't falsely advertised as being generational.
Yes, I've seen this low threshold for "generational" and I wonder if it's coming from non-native English speakers. There's only been two generational centers in the cap era; Crosby and McDavid. They were elite NHL players at age 18/19. Reality is Bedard lacks the physical tools to be a generational talent like those two. So unless he has more size and mobility coming, he'll never come close to those two. Being generational is a unique confluence of a wide variety of traits that he lacks. This is no fault of Bedard's.
 
No shot, Hawks match any offer. I guess the question is if he has another mediocre year and some team wants to give him 10+, do the Hawks consider the four firsts? Bedard still has great potential and is a work horse, so they probably still match.

From the Hawks perspective, why wouldn't they? Not like they have money going elsewhere and Bedard is still gonna have great potential.
Hawks have too much cap space to be threatened by an OS. Not an EDM situation here where they were too close to the cap ceiling to keep their 2 guys. Dickinson, Foligno come off the books and I think so does Bertuzzi.

But, I would agree that Bedard shouldn't sign now unless the offer is great. He shouldn't sign at a number like J. Hughes did and then explode. Might as well play out year 3.
 
Obviously he doesn't "suck." But he was falsely advertised as being generational which leads to resentment of the title and is also contributing to the perceptions of Chicago being disappointing.
Bedard has the most points in the NHL as a teenager since Sidney Crosby. He hasn’t been the phenom that some people thought he would be, but he’s still super young and figuring things out on a mess of a team.
 
Exactly. It also doesn't help that all the good vets on the team like Jones wanted out. Hard for a kid to be happy and motivated when he's in the room with a bunch of disgruntled vets that are angling out.

You have to wonder if the days of kids being ok with lengthy rebuilds is done.
I think guys understand if they are going to be 1st overall there is a rebuild process to be had, problem is Chicago isn't doing anything to show they want to take that next step.

Especially considering the team was in the gutter before he got there.

With that being said who knows what Davidson's plan really is. He might already be planning on starting to add this summer.
 
He's 19 you have no idea what he is going to turn out to be later in his career. Look at Nathan MacKinnon's first 4 seasons for reference.
No he wasn't falsely advertised as being generational.

He was hyped as a McDavid level talent, and people were discussing how quickly he would take over as the best player in the league. McDavid won the Art Ross in his second season. Bedard is barely above half the points of MacKinnon this year. It’s the same problem Dahlin had. People are too quick to throw out the McDavid calibre comparison
 
Yes, I've seen this low threshold for "generational" and I wonder if it's coming from non-native English speakers. There's only been two generational centers in the cap era; Crosby and McDavid. They were elite NHL players at age 18/19. Reality is Bedard lacks the physical tools to be a generational talent like those two. So unless he has more size and mobility coming, he'll never come close to those two. Being generational is a unique confluence of a wide variety of traits that he lacks. This is no fault of Bedard's.
Every year it's the same shit. Not necessarily about the next draft all the time, but there is always talk about the next best thing at some level.

People are just dying to have a story about some sort of new phenom that shit gets pushed a lot harder than it should.
 
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Every year it's the same shit. Not necessarily about the next draft all the time, but there is always talk about the next best thing at some level.

People are just dying to have a story about some sort of new phenom that shit gets pushed a lot harder than it should.
In his case, he was a generational player in the WHL, but that doesn't always translate to the NHL. I expect he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer and in no way is he a bust. But people throw around generational way too loosely. Think about what the word is supposed to mean and apply it accordingly. It should be a very rare label. Hopefully this discretion is applied to McKenna because I think it'll be similar with him.
 
Exactly. It also doesn't help that all the good vets on the team like Jones wanted out. Hard for a kid to be happy and motivated when he's in the room with a bunch of disgruntled vets that are angling out.

You have to wonder if the days of kids being ok with lengthy rebuilds is done.
I don’t think so. While Bedard can be a bit of a pouty little kid at times my impression is it mostly comes from frustration with himself and not meeting his own very high standards. Chicago in general has had a bit of a youth insurgence where traded out guys are replaced by youngsters not random career AHL players; which is generally exciting for young guys who will dream about “what we’re gonna do in a few years when…”. I don’t think Bedard is stupid. He knows if’s a rebuild. He considers anyone older than Jason Dickinson (28) to be “old” and mentioned how it’s great Taylor Hall gets a chance to compete for a Cup. He’s also your pretty typical “good Canadian boy” in the mold of Crosby and others as far as not throwing teammates under the bus, whining to refs but not coaches and in general not making himself a “problem”. So I don’t think he’s going to start making demands of the organization or request an early trade ticket out of town. Worst case for Hawks is likely that he just bides his team to Unrestricted Free Agent years and then goes wherever he wants, like John Tavares and others. That basically buys the Hawks 5-6 years (or more depending on what second contract he signs) to get it right and convince Bedard that Chicago is a place to stay. He could also be susceptible to “1 team guy culture” prevalent in hockey where it’s considered more admirable and of higher character to play out your entire career with one team even if they go through lows.
 
This is hilarious. Bedard isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Sure play out the third year, but then he’ll sign a long term extension.

Someone wants to offer sheet him? Easy match, more than enough cap space to do so.

I get though that half of the angling for Bedard to leave is from Canucks fans. I mean their team is done for when Quinn Hughes leaves and they’re still stuck with Pettersson. So got to hold onto something in fantasy land.
 
No shot, Hawks match any offer. I guess the question is if he has another mediocre year and some team wants to give him 10+, do the Hawks consider the four firsts? Bedard still has great potential and is a work horse, so they probably still match.

From the Hawks perspective, why wouldn't they? Not like they have money going elsewhere and Bedard is still gonna have great potential.
I would assume they would match anything. What a d*ck move it would be for a divisional rival to offer sheet Bedard at max pay for max term haha. The salary cap is going up by a lot , but still
 

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