Recalled/Assigned: Cossa recalled to the Wings under emergency conditions

Lazlo Hollyfeld

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Why do we need a top 4 pick? They won't help us til 2030

Raymond was drafted in 2020 and a full time roster player for the Wings in 2022. Seider joined that same season and he was drafted in 2019.
Larkin was drafted in 2014 and joined the Wings full time in 2016.


If this season is gonna be a Priority Waste Management Dumpster Fire™ then they might as well get a good asset out of it.
 

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Raymond was drafted in 2020 and a full time roster player for the Wings in 2022. Seider joined that same season and he was drafted in 2019.
Larkin was drafted in 2014 and joined the Wings full time in 2016.


If this season is gonna be a Priority Waste Management Dumpster Fire™ then they might as well get a good asset out of it.
Yeah if it's top 4 you are gonna see them real soon.

This team can be a pain for others if we are adding a Hagens/Martone/Misa on top of everyone else.
 

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Raymond was drafted in 2020 and a full time roster player for the Wings in 2022. Seider joined that same season and he was drafted in 2019.
Larkin was drafted in 2014 and joined the Wings full time in 2016.


If this season is gonna be a Priority Waste Management Dumpster Fire™ then they might as well get a good asset out of it.
Listen, I get it. I just don't know how much more of this shit I can take! It's only December and we are already wanted to tank for draft picks. Like when is this f***ing nightmare going to be over?! Its almost ten f***ing years not making the playoffs. I'm just numb man :(
 

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Listen I get it. I just don't know how much of this shit I can take anymore. It's December and we are already wanted to tank for draft picks. Like when is this f***ing nightmare going to be over?! Its almost ten f***ing years making the playoffs. I'm just numb man :(

yeah I understand that. It would have been so nice to make the playoffs last year just to get the monkey off their back and break the streak.

So far it's been an upward trajectory every season but with the underperforming of the new additions, some other players taking steps back, and the garbage PK, things are looking grim.

The really painful part to me is the goaltending has actually been very good this season. Can you imagine if we had this kind of goaltending last year??

Where I'm at is I don't know if it's better to hope they turn it around and probably miss the playoffs by a whisker again (at best) or just accept the crap season and hope it pays off in assets. If Talbot is out for any length of time I think that decision will be made for us.
 

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yeah I understand that. It would have been so nice to make the playoffs last year just to get the monkey off their back and break the streak.

So far it's been an upward trajectory every season but with the underperforming of the new additions, some other players taking steps back, and the garbage PK, things are looking grim.

The really painful part to me is the goaltending has actually been very good this season. Can you imagine if we had this kind of goaltending last year??

Where I'm at is I don't know if it's better to hope they turn it around and probably miss the playoffs by a whisker again (at best) or just accept the crap season and hope it pays off in assets. If Talbot is out for any length of time I think that decision will be made for us.
Neither do I, and I feel burned by having hoped for this to happen for several of the last years. I'm slowly sinking into hoping they lose, and lose well, for a top draft pick. Question for the forum here, why would we not move on from Boughner? PK is his thing right? If we're tanking cool keep him, but part ofme thinks they are keeping him for an interim head coach position.
 

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Cossa is a better goalie than Husso so he should start at least one game. No reason to baby him, he'll know he isn't walking into a great situation. The more you try to make it easier for him, the more pressure he could put on himself to justify the special consideration he's getting. The natural reaction for vets would be to try to give the kid goalie some help.

Until Talbot/Lyon are ready, he's no worse than the 1B goalie. Just play him as you would any goalie in that role and what happens, happens. GR's schedule next weekend is a much lower priority than playing the goalie that gives the Wings the best chance to win and I will take Cossa over Husso until he proves otherwise.
 

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yeah I understand that. It would have been so nice to make the playoffs last year just to get the monkey off their back and break the streak.

So far it's been an upward trajectory every season but with the underperforming of the new additions, some other players taking steps back, and the garbage PK, things are looking grim.

The really painful part to me is the goaltending has actually been very good this season. Can you imagine if we had this kind of goaltending last year??

Where I'm at is I don't know if it's better to hope they turn it around and probably miss the playoffs by a whisker again (at best) or just accept the crap season and hope it pays off in assets. If Talbot is out for any length of time I think that decision will be made for us.

I am not close yet to giving up on the season. Goaltending has been good, as expected much better than last season until Lyon got hot in January, and while there are justifiable complaints about the lack of offense, the biggest problem this season IMO is the PK. If they'd been able to kill penalties at the same rate as last year (80 per cent instead of 65), they'd have given up about 10 fewer PP goals so far, probably enough to be 2-3 games over .500. Talbot at ES has the league's best save percentage (.948) among goalies with more than four starts, but is second-worst in the league (.707) vs. power plays. The drop in offense has hurt, but not as much as people might think. The PP has been better and Wings are also giving up a lot less 5v5, where their GA/G has dropped from 2.30 to 1.75. Those two improvements offset much of the production drop-off. They'd be in decent shape even with the decline in scoring and all the one-sided SOG games if they weren't so bad on PK.

Overall we are a long way yet from knowing how the season will turn out. The goaltending is likely to continue to be better and more consistent so long as injuries don't get in the way. Penalty-killing you'd think has to get better. PK efficiency has been trending down league-wide for a decade, but I doubt any team has finished below 70 per cent for probably 40 years.
 

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