Core Four vs. McDavid or Draisaitl

[snipes]

Nope

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Who are the "Core Four"? Matthews, Marner, Nylander, and Reilly?

 

[sampollock]

REALLY
how do even compare this
EDM has this won hands down

what is this thread to prove how much worse the core 5 are?

 

[Leonardlizard]

Big fan of this timeline but my internet hostility towards other fan bases has weakened heavily since disengaging. If only this was 2022-2023 when people tried to compare Auston to Mcdavid or Draisaitl...

 

[JFedol]

Even in the pre-cap world, a successful quartet is two highly skilled forward, one power forward and one legit HOF #1 D. Bossy, Trottier, Gillies, Potvin or Gretzky, Kurri, Messier, Coffee.

The Leafs have it all wrong, the Core 4 are four highly skilled forwards. Oilers have two highly skilled forwards, which is inherently better because they have cap space left over to spread money up and down their lineup. There’s such thing as too much of a good thing. A core three of Quinn Hughes, Hutson and Fox would be a disaster.

I'm glad someone said this shit lol. It's always kind of been this way if you look at cup winning teams especially in the past. The 90s avs (aside from Foote) were another team built like this way. Sakic, Forsberg, Roy.

I'd argue that having 4 forwards also indicates lesser game-breaking individual talent IMO or a carrying ability equipped if that makes sense. You don't generally need THAT many core players to win a cup. Just 2 franchise players, preferably dual threat playmakers, who are playoff demons.

 

[PistolPete]

REALLY
how do even compare this
EDM has this won hands down

what is this thread to prove how much worse the core 5 are?

Ugh.....yeah. Says so right in the original post.

I think someone replied after reading the title only.

 

[JFedol]

You generally don't want a winger as your #1 guy.

You're right.

But I think wingers (complete package, not 1 dimensional offensive players like Ovi) can perform and be the #1 guy in the playoffs IMO, but they would to need somehow overcompensate with overtraining maybe with bionic levels of conditioning so they could play like a centre and be defensively responsible at the same time if that's even possible.

This could be a silly statement, but I feel like a lot of elite wingers around the league may not have the work ethic or mentality to perform something like that tbh.

Anything is possible.

 

[McFlash97]

The Oilers superstar duo are so far beyond the Leafs core 4, it might as well be another galaxy in the playoffs man. This is a laughable trade proposal.

 

[PistolPete]

The Oilers superstar duo are so far beyond the Leafs core 4, it might as well be another galaxy in the playoffs man. This is a laughable trade proposal.

Lol

Someone didn't read the actual original post.

 

[McFlash97]

Lol

Someone didn't read the actual original post.

Even for 1. Hell no. Leon or Connor have that dog in them. They go to war for their team. None of the Leafs core 4 exemplifies these qualities. Give me Leon or Connor plus the cap space to build a much better team.

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Not even close. Always take proven playoff performers over anything else. Drai's 2023 playoff performance alone was one of the most dominant things I've seen in the NHL playoffs. Only a dirty slash to the wrist by Pietrangelo could stop Drai that season.

Drai 124 pts in 85 playoff games. McDavid 134 pts in 85 games.

Every Leafs big 4 member under a PPG lifetime in the playoffs. Playoff chokers the lot of them.

 

[PistolPete]

Not even close. Always take proven playoff performers over anything else. Drai's 2023 playoff performance alone was one of the most dominant things I've seen in the NHL playoffs. Only a dirty slash to the wrist by Pietrangelo could stop Drai that season.

Drai 124 pts in 85 playoff games. McDavid 134 pts in 85 games.

Every Leafs big 4 member under a PPG lifetime in the playoffs. Playoff chokers the lot of them.

Damn. I knew their numbers were g99d but I didn't realize they were that great.

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

I assume that calling them the Core Fore is already a thing.

 

[PistolPete]

I assume that calling them the Core Fore is already a thing.

My time here has been thus far brief but I've encountered it several times so I'm assuming so.