Cooked up a new top-60 NHL forwards list

[Crede777]

IMO Johansen should be in the top-30 as an above average 1st line C. Foligno should be lower (in the 50's).

 

[Algernop Kreider]

Are you sure this is a current list?

 

[eklunds source]

Why is Seguin so high? He is a one dimensional guy with known character issues. If other players like Ovi and Kessel don't catch a break for going full offense with no two way play, then neither should Seguin.

How does "known character issues" affect a player's talent or ability to create offense?

How many more points do you think Seguin would score if he DIDN'T have "known character issues"?

 

[Volodya Krutov]

List based on reputation and hype, not current effectiveness. Pass.

 

[GingerNinja03]

Why is Seguin so high? He is a one dimensional guy with known character issues. If other players like Ovi and Kessel don't catch a break for going full offense with no two way play, then neither should Seguin.

Seguin is better than them defensively. That's why

 

[zaYG]

Tarasenko should be top 10.

 

[alex716]

I think this is better. I tried to base it entirely on this season, so this is not necessarily how I would rank them overall.

1 1 Sidney CROSBY
2 4 Patrick KANE
3 7 Tyler SEGUIN
4 14 Jakub VORACEK
5 9 Ryan GETZLAF
6 20 Rick NASH
7 25 Vladimir TARASENKO
8 10 Nicklas BACKSTROM
9 6 Claude GIROUX
10 3 Alex OVECHKIN
11 49 Tyler JOHNSON
12 2 Evgeni MALKIN
13 X Filip FORSBERG
14 41 Nick FOLIGNO
15 27 Joe PAVELSKI
16 13 John TAVARES
17 X Nikita KUCHEROV
18 34 Logan COUTURE
19 33 Ryan JOHANSEN
20 8 Jonathan TOEWS
21 5 Steven STAMKOS
22 30 Max PACIORETTY
23 15 Henrik ZETTERBERG
24 19 Joe THORNTON
25 21 Corey PERRY
26 11 Pavel DATSYUK
27 55 Jiri HUDLER
28 54 Alex STEEN
29 23 Zach PARISE
30 28 Jeff CARTER
31 17 Henrik SEDIN
32 18 Daniel SEDIN
33 22 Jamie BENN
34 X Bryan LITTLE
35 51 Jaden SCHWARTZ
36 36 Kyle OKPOSO
37 43 Andrew LADD
38 56 Derick BRASSARD
39 47 David BACKES
40 12 Anze KOPITAR
41 53 Blake WHEELER
42 44 Derek STEPAN
43 52 Jason POMINVILLE
44 59 TJ OSHIE
45 37 Bobby RYAN
46 16 Phil KESSEL
47 48 Mike RIBEIRO
48 X Johnny Gaudreau
49 31 Patrice BERGERON
50 29 Marian HOSSA

50, that's enough. The following players were cut.

24 Jason SPEZZA
26 Taylor HALL
32 Eric STAAL
35 Martin ST.LOUIS
38 Mikko KOIVU
39 Matt DUCHENE
40 David KREJCI
42 James VAN RIEMSDYK
45 Evander KANE
46 Ryan KESLER
50 Ryan NUGENT-HOPKINS

 

[Mike Liut]

Tarasenko, Schwartz, Steen, Oshie and Backes in top 50. Can't argue with that.

 

[nowhereman]

Canucks fan admitting that the Sedins are no longer top 20 forwards, as sad as that makes me feel.

 

[NicoandTristessa]

I think this is better. I tried to base it entirely on this season, so this is not necessarily how I would rank them overall.

1 1 Sidney CROSBY
2 4 Patrick KANE
3 7 Tyler SEGUIN
4 14 Jakub VORACEK
5 9 Ryan GETZLAF
6 20 Rick NASH
7 25 Vladimir TARASENKO
8 10 Nicklas BACKSTROM
9 6 Claude GIROUX
10 3 Alex OVECHKIN
11 49 Tyler JOHNSON
12 2 Evgeni MALKIN
13 X Filip FORSBERG
14 41 Nick FOLIGNO
15 27 Joe PAVELSKI
16 13 John TAVARES
17 X Nikita KUCHEROV
18 34 Logan COUTURE
19 33 Ryan JOHANSEN
20 8 Jonathan TOEWS
21 5 Steven STAMKOS
22 30 Max PACIORETTY
23 15 Henrik ZETTERBERG
24 19 Joe THORNTON
25 21 Corey PERRY
26 11 Pavel DATSYUK
27 55 Jiri HUDLER
28 54 Alex STEEN
29 23 Zach PARISE
30 28 Jeff CARTER
31 17 Henrik SEDIN
32 18 Daniel SEDIN
33 22 Jamie BENN
34 X Bryan LITTLE
35 51 Jaden SCHWARTZ
36 36 Kyle OKPOSO
37 43 Andrew LADD
38 56 Derick BRASSARD
39 47 David BACKES
40 12 Anze KOPITAR
41 53 Blake WHEELER
42 44 Derek STEPAN
43 52 Jason POMINVILLE
44 59 TJ OSHIE
45 37 Bobby RYAN
46 16 Phil KESSEL
47 48 Mike RIBEIRO
48 X Johnny Gaudreau
49 31 Patrice BERGERON
50 29 Marian HOSSA

50, that's enough. The following players were cut.

24 Jason SPEZZA
26 Taylor HALL
32 Eric STAAL
35 Martin ST.LOUIS
38 Mikko KOIVU
39 Matt DUCHENE
40 David KREJCI
42 James VAN RIEMSDYK
45 Evander KANE
46 Ryan KESLER
50 Ryan NUGENT-HOPKINS

This list seems more appropriate.

 

[417th]

Show us your list.

OK but your going to have to back up quite a bit.










No, that's too far.

I didn't start the thread and it is open for comment or debate. I think he is off in several places. There, that is my list.

 

[QJL]

Cooked my own:

Best NHL Players
1. Sidney Crosby
2. Evgeni Malkin
3. Alexander Ovechkin
4. Steven Stamkos
5. Claude Giroux
6. Ryan Getzlaf
7. Patrick Kane
8. John Tavares
9. Niklas Backstrom
10. Jonathan Toews
11. Jamie Benn
12. Tyler Seguin
13. Anze Kopitar
14. Rick Nash
15. Pavel Datsyuk
16. Corey Perry
17. Jakub Voracek
18. Henrik Zetterberg
19. Joe Pavelski
20. Logan Couture
21. Max Pacioretty
22. Vladimir Tarasenko
23. Jeff Carter
24. Taylor Hall
25. Ryan Johansen
26. Phil Kessel
27. Patrice Bergeron
28. Matt Duchene
29. Tyler Johnson
30. Zach Parise
31. Marian Hossa
32. Gabriel Landeskog
33. Derek Stepan
34. Joe Thornton
35. Marian Gaborik
36. Henrik Sedin
37. David Backes
38. James van Riemsdyk
39. Patrick Sharp
40. Alexander Steen
41. Eric Staal
42. Patrick Marleau
43. Kyle Okposo
44. Alex Galchenyuk
45. Jaden Schwartz
46. Ryan Kesler
47. Ondrej Palat
48. Jason Spezza
49. James Neal
50. Gustav Nyquist
51. Daniel Sedin
52. Filip Forsberg
53. Jiri Hudler
54. Brandon Saad
55. Bryan Little
56. Tomas Plekanec
57. TJ Oshie
58. Nikita Kucherov
59. Blake Wheeler
60. Nick Foligno

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Why is Towes so high?
And Getzlaf so low.

Johnson is better then Stamkos this year. 4/10

Reason it got a 4 and not lower.is I didn't see Eberle thank God

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

this year? Nash needs to be top 10.

 

[Blueland89]

Simmonds isn't on the list? I think he deserves it and I think Voracek is better than Getzlaf.

 

[Captain Creampuff]

Why are Koivu and Pominville on this list? Also Jaden Schwartz is as equally as good as Tarasenko, I don't think a lot of people realize it because he isn't as flashy as Frank is but both are equally as important to the Blues.

 

[Vladiator16*]

This season Crosby is not #1, 2 or 3... and how is Nash isn't in top 10? So is Weber.

 

[canadianguy77]

This season Crosby is not #1, 2 or 3... and how is Nash isn't in top 10? So is Weber.

Care to explain how Crosby isn't top 3? He has the highest ppg in the league.

 

[kamosko]

Steen, Nash and Pavelski too low imo

 

[c3z4r]

I think this is better. I tried to base it entirely on this season, so this is not necessarily how I would rank them overall.

1 1 Sidney CROSBY
2 4 Patrick KANE
3 7 Tyler SEGUIN
4 14 Jakub VORACEK
5 9 Ryan GETZLAF
6 20 Rick NASH
7 25 Vladimir TARASENKO
8 10 Nicklas BACKSTROM
9 6 Claude GIROUX
10 3 Alex OVECHKIN
11 49 Tyler JOHNSON
12 2 Evgeni MALKIN
13 X Filip FORSBERG
14 41 Nick FOLIGNO
15 27 Joe PAVELSKI
16 13 John TAVARES
17 X Nikita KUCHEROV
18 34 Logan COUTURE
19 33 Ryan JOHANSEN
20 8 Jonathan TOEWS
21 5 Steven STAMKOS
22 30 Max PACIORETTY
23 15 Henrik ZETTERBERG
24 19 Joe THORNTON
25 21 Corey PERRY
26 11 Pavel DATSYUK
27 55 Jiri HUDLER
28 54 Alex STEEN
29 23 Zach PARISE
30 28 Jeff CARTER
31 17 Henrik SEDIN
32 18 Daniel SEDIN
33 22 Jamie BENN
34 X Bryan LITTLE
35 51 Jaden SCHWARTZ
36 36 Kyle OKPOSO
37 43 Andrew LADD
38 56 Derick BRASSARD
39 47 David BACKES
40 12 Anze KOPITAR
41 53 Blake WHEELER
42 44 Derek STEPAN
43 52 Jason POMINVILLE
44 59 TJ OSHIE
45 37 Bobby RYAN
46 16 Phil KESSEL
47 48 Mike RIBEIRO
48 X Johnny Gaudreau
49 31 Patrice BERGERON
50 29 Marian HOSSA

50, that's enough. The following players were cut.

24 Jason SPEZZA
26 Taylor HALL
32 Eric STAAL
35 Martin ST.LOUIS
38 Mikko KOIVU
39 Matt DUCHENE
40 David KREJCI
42 James VAN RIEMSDYK
45 Evander KANE
46 Ryan KESLER
50 Ryan NUGENT-HOPKINS

Seems better than OP's

 

[Machinehead]

You have MSL ahead of two teammates who are clearly better.

 

[Mc5RingsAndABeer]

This list seems more appropriate.

It seems more appropriate if you choose to ignore the fact that some of these players played NHL hockey prior to this season. The OP clearly indicated that overall skill level was an important factor in his rankings.

 

[MLSE]

Palat not good enough for top 60? Product of teammates? 82 game pace has him at 60+ points, 120+ hits and he kills penalties also with having a high number of blocked shots for a forward.

 

[haveandare]

Nash should be higher. MSL probably shouldn't be on the list.

 

[DFC]

Palat not good enough for top 60? Product of teammates? 82 game pace has him at 60+ points, 120+ hits and he kills penalties also with having a high number of blocked shots for a forward.

Forgot about Drej.

If we're taking this season into account at all, Steven Stamkos's value has gone way down. I don't think he can be considered top 10 until he starts proving it again. Tyler Johnson has been significantly better and should probably be ranked in the top 40 at least.