Cont'd - NHL makes 12-year/$5.2 billion Canadian TV deal w/ Sportsnet, CBC, TSN out

[saintflannel]

Hopefully TSN gets the CHL and treats it the US treats NCAA sports.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

TSN's broadcast quality is crap but Rogers Sportsnet is even worse. Bush league network with bush league analysts with bush league telecommunication equipment.

 

[Ducksforcup]

Bettman would've been smart to have moved Phoenix to Quebec last season knowing that a new TV deal was coming up, would've brought in a tonne more money especially from the French bidders.

Also, I'm very confused in the CBC's role in this and how exactly they're gonna make $ or what will happen to their staff as well as why the NHL opted to go exclusive rather than what they have now which is better (coverage on three major networks).

From what I understand, CBC will now utilize the NHL solely to advertise its own original programming. The NHL is its most popular product and in this sense it will keep people watching the broadcaster.

The director (Hebert) admitted the situation isn't ideal, but I'm just happy that HNIC in some form will continue to exist.

 

[saskganesh]

Other than continuing the tradition of HNIC.. I'll say I honestly don't understand why CBC entered into this deal.

If they don't get the revenue from their air time, what is the point?

They are basically acting as an extension of Rogers any time they are broadcasting an NHL game but at their own expense..

I'm surprised by this deal and am thinking about all the implications

But now at least, we can turn the hoary CBC argument on its head, and say that the network is wasting taxpayer-owned assets by lending its IP to Rogers, free of charge.

 

[Jack Bauer]

The negativity from Canadians on this definitely amuses me. More options, more games available, HNIC not killed off, but "Rogers has a high school broadcast, this is crap!"

Most of the games were already available though.

What we have added in the Sportsnet 'sample' was just a couple of games involving American teams.

CBC already shows 2 or 3 games at 7est on Saturday so saying those games are on different channels is kind of irrelevant because you can still only watch 1 game.

I hope Rogers streams National games as that would be a huge upgrade from TSN.

I agree that already evaluating the broadcast based on regional samples is a mistake. Rogers is about to go on a hiring spree I would say.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

NHL GCL becomes pretty obsolete now, doesn't it?

I love GCL because I love Hockey, but it does seem like with the recent deals, they are making GCL obsolete. I still wish and hope for one day they would look at the GCL rules and relax them a bit, but until then, if you were only a casual fan, I'm not sure if buying GCL, especially now, is a good idea.

 

[thevreelander]

I heard the Rogers' offer was 8 times the last TSN deal.

40 million a season versus .433 billion or 433 million per season. Come on this is big for NHL.

 

[viper0220]

This deal could be negative for the CFL. I believe recently the CRTC approved
of the removal of theme packs, with out hockey, people may not choose to
keep TSN. Less subscribers, less viewers for the CFL.

On the other hand, a gain for Rogers. If you want all the hockey, you will have
to subscribe to all the channels.

Canadians will be paying EXTRA to see hockey

 

[Riptide]

The negativity from Canadians on this definitely amuses me. More options, more games available, HNIC not killed off, but "Rogers has a high school broadcast, this is crap!"

Except it's true. TSN has all the top talent (the A team vs the C or D team) when compared to Rogers Sportsnet. TSN has also treated the NHL as a king with all the coverage they gave them (draft, trades, games, trade deadline, etc). So in terms of what we will now watch, it's a downgrade.

However, this is a great deal for Rogers. By doing this, they'll steal viewers from TSN. Hopefully some of the better talent follows them. But until that happens, while we Canadians will get more coverage, we'll do so with crappier on air talent.

 

[LuGBuG]

If Tsn takes a hold of the CHL now you can bet it will end up being AWESOME.

 

[Ducksforcup]

40 million a season versus .433 billion or 433 million per season. Come on this is big for NHL.

If this was indeed the offer, the NHL did the right thing.

That is a lowball number from TSN.

 

[Jack Bauer]

NHL GCL becomes pretty obsolete now, doesn't it?

Not at all.

Regional action still exists 4 days per week.

 

[Stats01]

I heard the Rogers' offer was 8 times the last TSN deal.

pretty much, TSN is paying the NHL 40 million this season. Rogers is paying 10 times that starting next season...400 million!!! woo damn

 

[viper0220]

I heard the Rogers' offer was 8 times the last TSN deal.

Where did you hear this KevyD? If true good for the nhl.

 

[bert]

This deal could be negative for the CFL. I believe recently the CRTC approved
of the removal of theme packs, with out hockey, people may not choose to
keep TSN. Less subscribers, less viewers for the CFL.

On the other hand, a gain for Rogers. If you want all the hockey, you will have
to subscribe to all the channels.

So not only is the quality of broadcast going to go down but the price will continue to climb?

Great, great deal for growing the game, I cant see how this benefits anyone but the owners and the players. The fans lose again, I'll be cancelling my TSN HD subscription for sure. I will only pay for basic HD channels then as long as I get sens games then I will buy game center. Rogers will probably end up losing money here and frankly I am not upset about it one bit. They overcharge for everything and have terrible and I mean TERRIBLE quality, speed involving anything digital. I cant watch anything between 2 and and 5 am because they servers update and freeze.

 

[thevreelander]

Except it's true. TSN has all the top talent (the A team vs the C or D team) when compared to Rogers Sportsnet. TSN has also treated the NHL as a king with all the coverage they gave them (draft, trades, games, trade deadline, etc). So in terms of what we will now watch, it's a downgrade.

However, this is a great deal for Rogers. By doing this, they'll steal viewers from TSN. Hopefully some of the better talent follows them. But until that happens, while we Canadians will get more coverage, we'll do so with crappier on air talent.

It's true? 40 million a season versus 433 million a season? The NHL had to move on from TSN for that kind of money.

 

[I Hate Tie DOMI]

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Canadians will be paying EXTRA to see hockey

Rogers has to make up the $5B they are shelling out somehow and that doesn't include the millions necessary to upgrade everything, broadcasters, analysts, production....

 

[Stats01]

Not at all.

Regional action still exists 4 days per week.

That's right, but all in all we are getting more games than what TSN was offering. It's honestly a great day as a fan. People can hate Rogers all they want but this is a great deal for us. We not get Wednesday's and Saturdays for national broadcasts but now Sunday's it's going to be awesome.

 

[CK17]

So is Rogers picking up the NBCSN simulcasts on Mondays/Tuesdays?

 

[thevreelander]

If this was indeed the offer, the NHL did the right thing.

That is a lowball number from TSN.

That wasn't the number from TSN. That was the number of the last deal. TSN's offer hasn't been released yet but it'll be a lot lower than 433 million a season.

 

[Stats01]

Where did you hear this KevyD? If true good for the nhl.

It was mentioned during the press conference. 40 million dollars from TSN this season, and starting next season Rogers blows them out of the water and spends 10 times that lol. But in all fairness they get ALL rights on all platforms, TSN was sharing theirs with others with their deal. The uniqueness of this deal is that one single company is owning all rights from all platforms, it's amazing.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

When you consider the % of their revenue that they were getting from hockey.. that doesn't sound like a good deal.

They are taking an enormous hit.

But far less of a hit than if they just paid the NHL market value, or what Rogers was willing to give.

 

[thevreelander]

I will say this again though.

If TSN loves hockey so much they could still cover hockey. THE NHL IS NOT HOCKEY! KHL, AHL, CHL, most IIHF tournaments, aswell as a plenty of other leagues have no coverage in North America.

Make it happen TSN.

 

[Jack Bauer]

That's right, but all in all we are getting more games than what TSN was offering. It's honestly a great day as a fan. People can hate Rogers all they want but this is a great deal for us. We not get Wednesday's and Saturdays for national broadcasts but now Sunday's it's going to be awesome.

We get 1 more national day per week in exchange for 1 network running the show.

For a fan I don't see it as any improvement because my team(TML) is not going to be any more available to me under this deal then they were under the old one more then likely.

Personally I will say that the NHL can go after Sundays all they like but even in Canada now the NFL dominates peoples attention so for half the season your numbers on Sunday will likely be low unless you go with all Canadian games to attract multiple fan bases. Friday would have made a lot more sense in my opinion.

 

[optimus2861]

If this was indeed the offer, the NHL did the right thing.

That is a lowball number from TSN.

That was the existing contract, not what Bell offered:

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/nhl131126.html

According to a source close to the negotiations, TFP has learned that Bell has initially proposed a deal to the NHL eerily similar to the one the League signed with Rogers, only to shockingly find out on Monday night that the NHL had in fact reached an agreement with Rogers, worth slightly more than Bell had offered.

"Slightly more" =/= "ten times more". Maybe Bell offered $3-4B over the life of the deal, who knows.