DarrylshutzSydor
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Cirelli had 45 points last year, not 2nd line center numbers. Good two way 3rd line center.
Player Discussion: Conor Geekie
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JTBF81
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So you've brought up last year and a terribly weak argument for this year. The facts are that he's at 21 points in 18 games, is playing great as the 2C, and has been and remains the 2C.
DarrylshutzSydor
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You sound like the Sharks fans who argued that Tomas Hertl was a number one center because they didn't have one and he was just playing #1 center.....Cirelli is a good two way 3rd line center.......
JTBF81
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It's okay to be wrong, which you are. So many on here clamored how bad he was, not a 2C, should be moved etc. At least most have stopped that worthless narrative for now, but please continue your erroneous takes.
He's absolutely been a complete blackhole for offense the last two years. That's an objective observation.
...and then Stamkos left and now he looks like a Selke finalist. Quite obvious at this point that Stamkos was an anchor, but Cirelli also needed the right linemates. Hagel and him need to be permanently stapled to one another.
...and then Stamkos left and now he looks like a Selke finalist. Quite obvious at this point that Stamkos was an anchor, but Cirelli also needed the right linemates. Hagel and him need to be permanently stapled to one another.
DarrylshutzSydor
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Singlehandedly?
JTBF81
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He actually improved last year offensively to 20 goals and 45 points. Granted it was a small improvement, but he's very capable as a 2C given his usual assignments and defensive play as well.
Except they already have won 2 cups and beaten the Leafs in a playoff series with Cirelli as 2C, but okay....
TheDaysOf 04
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Through the first 20 NHL games of his career Geekie has 3 goals, 3 assists, 6 points
For comparison here's some other players through their first 20 games who were 19 or 20 years old
Brett Connolly: 4 goals + 3 assists = 7 points
Connolly made his NHL debut at age 19. He started off well, but after 20 games he started to hit his rookie wall. Yzerman sent him away from the team to play in the World Juniors, and he would score 0 goals, and 8 assists through the remaining 48 games of his rookie season.
Jonathan Drouin: 1 goal + 10 assists = 11 points
Drouin - another 19 year old that Yzerman kept on the Bolts because he was too good for juniors, but not old enough for the AHL. 11 points in his first 20 games, but only 4 goals in 70 games his whole rookie year. His 28 assists though are one of the more productive numbers by a Lightning rookie in franchise history even with bottom line minutes next to guys like Brian Boyle, Brendan Morrow, JT Brown, and rookies Ceddy Paquette, and Vladdy Namestnikov
Nikita Kucherov: 6 goals + 3 assists = 9 points (nov- jan)
20 years old like Geekie, but Kucherov did not make his NHL debut until Nov 25th after spending the first 17 games in Syracuse.
Anthony Cirelli: 5 goals + 6 assists = 11 points (18 games)
Like Kucherov, Cirelli didn't start right out of training camp, not making his debut until March 1st, spending the first 51 games of the year in Syracuse. His 11 points with the Bolts are in the Bolts final 18 games down the stretch which you could argue are much harder than a team's first 18 games in October and November.
Brayden Point: 2 goals + 5 assists = 7 points
20 years old, right out of camp, getting some top 6 minutes and pp time to start - this is probably the most similar experience to Geekie's. Only 2 goals to start the year, but he finishes with 18 goals in 68 games
For comparison here's some other players through their first 20 games who were 19 or 20 years old
Brett Connolly: 4 goals + 3 assists = 7 points
Connolly made his NHL debut at age 19. He started off well, but after 20 games he started to hit his rookie wall. Yzerman sent him away from the team to play in the World Juniors, and he would score 0 goals, and 8 assists through the remaining 48 games of his rookie season.
Jonathan Drouin: 1 goal + 10 assists = 11 points
Drouin - another 19 year old that Yzerman kept on the Bolts because he was too good for juniors, but not old enough for the AHL. 11 points in his first 20 games, but only 4 goals in 70 games his whole rookie year. His 28 assists though are one of the more productive numbers by a Lightning rookie in franchise history even with bottom line minutes next to guys like Brian Boyle, Brendan Morrow, JT Brown, and rookies Ceddy Paquette, and Vladdy Namestnikov
Nikita Kucherov: 6 goals + 3 assists = 9 points (nov- jan)
20 years old like Geekie, but Kucherov did not make his NHL debut until Nov 25th after spending the first 17 games in Syracuse.
Anthony Cirelli: 5 goals + 6 assists = 11 points (18 games)
Like Kucherov, Cirelli didn't start right out of training camp, not making his debut until March 1st, spending the first 51 games of the year in Syracuse. His 11 points with the Bolts are in the Bolts final 18 games down the stretch which you could argue are much harder than a team's first 18 games in October and November.
Brayden Point: 2 goals + 5 assists = 7 points
20 years old, right out of camp, getting some top 6 minutes and pp time to start - this is probably the most similar experience to Geekie's. Only 2 goals to start the year, but he finishes with 18 goals in 68 games
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