Value of: Connor Murphy

[Avilaj07]

Wondering what it would take to get Connor Murphy from Chicago. What are your needs, etc etc.

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[Kevin Musto]

Needs: Connor Murphy...

No, but really we don't have any other true shutdown defenders here. I don't think moving him is a good idea.

Other needs are a young starting goalie, and 2 way wingers.

 

[seanlinden]

Needs: Connor Murphy...

No, but really we don't have any other true shutdown defenders here. I don't think moving him is a good idea.

Other needs are a young starting goalie, and 2 way wingers.

Would the Hawks do something to the tune of Johnsson and either Liljegren or Dermott for Murphy?

Or perhaps Johnsson, a pick swap of 1sts this year, and a lesser asset? It's tough to mix real players into pick-swap trades, but I don't think the Leafs would trade their 1st outright and AJ for Murphy.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Would the Hawks do something to the tune of Johnsson and either Liljegren or Dermott for Murphy?

Or perhaps Johnsson, a pick swap of 1sts this year, and a lesser asset? It's tough to mix real players into pick-swap trades, but I don't think the Leafs would trade their 1st outright and AJ for Murphy.

I think they'd have zero interest in Dermott as they have a ton of LD to choose from already.

Also don't see AJ being of interest. I know those are the 2 pieces that Leafs fans are willing to move, but not a good match with CHI.

 

[seanlinden]

I think they'd have zero interest in Dermott as they have a ton of LD to choose from already.

Also don't see AJ being of interest. I know those are the 2 pieces that Leafs fans are willing to move, but not a good match with CHI.

Simply responding to the suggestion of a 2-way winger.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Simply responding to the suggestion of a 2-way winger.

I'm thinking it would be more like Mikheyev they'd be interested in.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Would the Hawks do something to the tune of Johnsson and either Liljegren or Dermott for Murphy?

Or perhaps Johnsson, a pick swap of 1sts this year, and a lesser asset? It's tough to mix real players into pick-swap trades, but I don't think the Leafs would trade their 1st outright and AJ for Murphy.

No thanks to johnsson. Liljegren and dermott while solid don’t really do much in terms of moving Murphy.

My guess is the 15th pick but who knows

 

[seanlinden]

No thanks to johnsson. Liljegren and dermott while solid don’t really do much in terms of moving Murphy.

My guess is the 15th pick but who knows

If Chicago is into collecting multiple 1st rounders this year, I'd imagine that the Leafs would trade 15th OA outright if it meant being able to keep Andreas Johnsson (or likely move him elsewhere and get a 2nd+)

 

[Mrfenn92]

If Chicago is into collecting multiple 1st rounders this year, I'd imagine that the Leafs would trade 15th OA outright if it meant being able to keep Andreas Johnsson (or likely move him elsewhere and get a 2nd+)

Really all depends on what they have planned going forward.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Pens 1st round pick would be only thing that works for Hawks unless Leafs offered up a Mikheyev + Liljegren package but I doubt Leafs would move young RD like Liljegren nor Mikheyev especially when depth is already issue for Leafs

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

If I were dubas I'd wait to see who is on the board at 15 before I trade the pick.

 

[_Del_]

So glad to see this guy finally getting some respect!

 

[HockeySauce]

I'd take Toronto's 2nd and Hallander.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

I'd take Toronto's 2nd and Hallander.

easy yes from me

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

No thanks on that

Hallander is nothing special to me

Dont understand the hype about him he

 

[HockeySauce]

No thanks on that

Hallander is nothing special to me

Dont understand the hype about him he

easy yes from me

It seems we have struck an accord. I'll have my people get in touch with your people for the paperwork to be signed and sent of to the league offices. Pleasure sir.

 

[Halla]

No thanks to johnsson. Liljegren and dermott while solid don’t really do much in terms of moving Murphy.

My guess is the 15th pick but who knows

Lol 15OA in this draft for a 3rd pairing dman making nearly 4mil?
with a flat cap and a pile of similar players available as UFA?

nah. leafs can go after a hamonic type and not give up 15OA in one of the best drafts in recent memory

 

[TheDachKnight]

If Hawks decide they won’t be competitive next year, I’d probably do 15 for Murphy. I think that’s really the only thing that makes sense.

 

[FameFlame069]

I think something like Bennett/Dube and a 3rd for Murphy(500k retention) and a 6th/7th would be fair?

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Lol 15OA in this draft for a 3rd pairing dman making nearly 4mil?
with a flat cap and a pile of similar players available as UFA?

nah. leafs can go after a hamonic type and not give up 15OA in one of the best drafts in recent memory

Who is this player you speak of?

Because Connor Murphy is far from a 3rd pairing defender and his cap hit of $3.85M is actually great cap hit for a top 4 RD

 

[SotasicA]

No, but really we don't have any other true shutdown defenders here.

Nick Seeler!

 

[HockeySauce]

Lol 15OA in this draft for a 3rd pairing dman making nearly 4mil?
with a flat cap and a pile of similar players available as UFA?

nah. leafs can go after a hamonic type and not give up 15OA in one of the best drafts in recent memory

It's certainly a great top-10.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Simply responding to the suggestion of a 2-way winger.

Andreas Johnsson is not a 2-way winger though, he was 3rd among Leafs forwards with at least 10 games played for offensive zone starts at 56.8%(only behind Matthews and Nylander).

Lol 15OA in this draft for a 3rd pairing dman making nearly 4mil?
with a flat cap and a pile of similar players available as UFA?

nah. leafs can go after a hamonic type and not give up 15OA in one of the best drafts in recent memory

In what world do 3rd pair defense average 22 minutes of ice time?

 

[HockeySauce]

Andreas Johnsson is not a 2-way winger though, he was 3rd among Leafs forwards with at least 10 games played for offensive zone starts at 56.8%(only behind Matthews and Nylander).

Toews is a career 58% OZS player; Hossa 57%; Datsyuk 55%; Bergeron's been at 60% the last 3 season. Not sure that's a very useful metric when trying to quantify a forward's two-way impact.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Toews is a career 58% OZS player; Hossa 57%; Datsyuk 55%; Bergeron's been at 60% the last 3 season. Not sure that's a very useful metric when trying to quantify a forward's two-way impact.

All of those players had prime powerplay minutes though and averaged ~20 minutes a night. AJ averaged about 15 minutes a night with ~2 min on the 2nd PP unit meaning about 13 minutes of even strength time. To me that kinda means his EV ice time was sheltered.

Ok how about his defensive points share of 0.6?