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Connor Hellebuyck - Worst Playoff Goalie in NHL history

Is Helleybuck the worse vezina winning goalie come playoffs since 2005

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Gerulaitis said:
There is method to Hellebuyck's madness.

Perhaps, an injury that we don't know about
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Seem like that is the typical response from posters on the board. Not just you but from all hbboard fans defending poor play from their favorite player.
Blame it on an unknown Injury.
 
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2013 MAF against the Islanders was one of the worst goalie performances I've ever seen, so much so I think Vokoun took over the net if memory serves correctly. That 2013 Penguins team should've won the Cup if not for MAF. Prime Crosby, Malkin, Letang, James Neal, Kunitz, they added Iginla, Brendan Morrow, Douglas Murray etc.
 
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WATTAGE4451 said:
Okay, so all shots have an equal chance of going in? Really? Besides ignoring the advanced stats, helly still has great actual sv% during the regular season too and was also great there. So by what metric is helly not among best in regular season?
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No. But any one shot has a chance to go in and you can’t really pin them to a high danger area or expected goal stat. At least not on a game to game basis. A floater can in that has business going in while the same goalie makes a five alarm save on a breakaway. Stats never tell the whole story. The only ones that matter are the goals after 60 minutes is played.
 
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Curufinwe said:
MAF was worse in 2012
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How many Cups on MAF’s mask? Helley is horrid every playoffs even after a Vezina winning season. There really is no comparable. He’s the best (regular season) and the worst (playoffs)
It’s inexplicable the contrast of this guys play.
 
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There's a case to be made that he's the worst.

Is he the worst goalie to ever play in the playoffs? No.

But as far as guys who were really good in the regular season and were horrible in the playoffs, he's definitely in the running. He's not Dan Cloutier bad, but Dan Cloutier never won Vezina's or had much regular season success.

Now, this could end sooner or later. I said the same thing about Bobrovsky about 5 years ago or actually even less than that. Before he started winning a playoffs series and mostly multiple rounds every year since 2022. But he had only won a single playoff series before 2022 and none before he was 30 years old, despite several playoff berths and really weak numbers.

Bobrovsky eventually completely erased all of that when he was well into his 30s.
 
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Yeah, the Fleury comparison isn't a good one.

Hellebuyck's last several playoff years have been on par with Fleury's 2010-2013 playoff numbers, but that stretch for Fleury came right after a cup win and back to back cup finals appearances as a starter.

Fleury did eventually resurrect himself into his 30s, but he also had a cup win and two cup finals runs before his massively awful stretch.

Hellebuyck's first handful of playoff appearances or so weren't bad, but just one trip to the conference finals.
 
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JKG33 said:
Lmao the Jets are not a different goalie away from a deep playoff run, unless that goalie is someone like Binnington
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I dunno, the way he looked on goals 3-4-5 last night, with pucks going right through him, I wonder what would have happened if Corrie were in there instead. We might be talking about them moving on.
 
Nuck Bonino said:
yall are overreacting,
2 goals were deflections right outside the blue paint, there isnt a goalie thats stopping those
2 goals were blues player driving alone to the net, you can argue he should have had these but Jets D also deserves some criticism here
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It’s not one game
It’sa pattern of poor play
 
tarheelhockey said:
I dunno, the way he looked on goals 3-4-5 last night, with pucks going right through him, I wonder what would have happened if Corrie were in there instead. We might be talking about them moving on.
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Moving on? Sure. Deep playoff run? I dont see it
 
I'm glad there is an impartial thread in regards to this topic. On the Jets forum, the Hellebuyck worship is out of control. I mean I love the guy, but it's been three straight years that Helle has been rattled in the playoffs, and at no time was there ever a serious discussion to starting a different goalie, and give Hellebuyck time to regroup, or to change the game plan.
 
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Bleedred said:
Yeah, the Fleury comparison isn't a good one.

Hellebuyck's last several playoff years have been on par with Fleury's 2010-2013 playoff numbers, but that stretch for Fleury came right after a cup win and back to back cup finals appearances as a starter.

Fleury did eventually resurrect himself into his 30s, but he also had a cup win and two cup finals runs before his massively awful stretch.

Hellebuyck's first handful of playoff appearances or so weren't bad, but just one trip to the conference finals.
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But it shows you that good goalies can have terrible stretches of play.

I think Hellebuyck's confidence is obviously shot right now. He got lit up last year, got lit up again this year, tried to make adjustments and it just made everything worse and completely threw him off his game.

Goalies get into "the zone" and he's gotten into whatever the opposite of that is. I don't think he's fixable during the playoffs...sure, maybe he just miraculously slams the door shut tomorrow and then goes on a run? But more likely, he's cooked and even with a win tomorrow, the Jets don't go much farther.

The two scenarios I see for tomorrow:

If he gets shelled and the Jets fans turn on him in-game, I think his days in Winnipeg are over. Chevy would be forced to sell about as low as you can for a reigning back to back Vezina winner. He'll demand a trade and will really need a fresh start somewhere else.

If he plays well - or even if he doesn't but the fans don't turn on him - he resets during the offseason and he's back in Winnipeg for another go (the Jets better start looking under ever rock for a decent backup though).
 
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Gm0ney said:
The two scenarios I see for tomorrow:

If he gets shelled and the Jets fans turn on him in-game, I think his days in Winnipeg are over. Chevy would be forced to sell about as low as you can for a reigning back to back Vezina winner. He'll demand a trade and will really need a fresh start somewhere else.
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I can't see Hellebuyck being traded. If it does happen, there are teams that will see his potential- 3 Vezinas, his playoff appearances before 2023, etc. and we will get a great return.
Gm0ney said:
If he plays well - or even if he doesn't but the fans don't turn on him - he resets during the offseason and he's back in Winnipeg for another go (the Jets better start looking under ever rock for a decent backup though).
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The problem is management is too stubborn to use a reliable backup. We had Brossoit in 2024, and should have started Game 4 or 5 in the series vs Colorado, but never did. The organization is too stubborn for it's own good.
 
If Broissoit was still here he would have played game 5

No sense torching relationship by benching him in game 7. 9team still has a stepnir two to take itself for playoff readiness. But Helle is main reason these were 3 blowouts in STL and notv competitive games. Sorry but it's true.
 
Soundwave said:
Skinner is only 2.6 million on the cap, Hellebuyck is 8.5 million.

Though probably there's a fair shot Helle does better in Edmonton because he would have more run support. Give up a bad goal or even two, it's not as big of a deal when you have nuclear bombs upfront like McDavid and Draisaitl who bring it in the playoffs, so that would likely help him a lot.
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Why would salary matter? So what if skinner makes less, he is an AHL goalie.
 
I believe in you Helly! f*** the haters, get out there and make dem saves, play yo game, tell them fools to stop collapsing in on ya. You got this, don’t be singing no Blues.

(Psst, he’s so mentally done right now though. I’m right either way here, it’s cool.)
 
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