Connor Hellebuyck made Presentation for NHL on Goaltender Interference

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If they just reject every challenge and penalize the team challenging, why even have it?
"Oh its ok. The leauge wants more goals."
Bullshit.
Also the no call interference on hellebucyk last night was textbook.
 

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If they just reject every challenge and penalize the team challenging, why even have it?
"Oh its ok. The leauge wants more goals."
Bullshit.
Also the no call interference on hellebucyk last night was textbook.
Not a Jets fab but I dislike the inconsistencies on the rulings they have for goaltending interference.

Goal scoring has moved up a ton. I'm okay if we call goals back especially when it's clear as day the goalie was interfered with.
 

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I'd be interested to see what exactly was in here and what his arguments were. I wonder if he'd be open to sharing it publicly. I would assume either he wouldn't want to do this, or wouldn't be allowed by the NHL, depending on the content.
 
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Connor Hellebuyck on goaltending interference. I would love to see that presentation and I am curious what the league did with it. Most likely nothing.
They filed it with the presentation on CTE and concussions.

If they look hard enough it’s probably between the application for an expansion NHL team in Quebec City and the file on the Rick Tocchett gambling ring.
 

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If they just reject every challenge and penalize the team challenging, why even have it?
"Oh its ok. The leauge wants more goals."
Bullshit.

This league seems to have such a hard time seeing the forest for the trees.

Why do we want more goals? Because a 4-3 is automatically better than a 3-2 game? No, we want goals because goals create drama. Partially because they’re entertaining in their own right, as highlights of the game, and partially because they lead to lead changes and momentum shifts which lead to more drama. After a goal you feel that buzz in the building, a change in the energy level on the ice, and a renewed focus on the goalie’s mental stamina. When teams trade goals, the lead changes create narrative tension that any viewer can get invested in. Drama is entertaining and that’s why we watch the game.

Say there’s a controversial call on the ice, and it turns out that the call was wrong. That’s still drama, still entertaining. The offended team’s fans will boo, the coach will yell and kick his whiteboard. Fans will argue about the mistake for a day or two afterward, and in a worst case scenario it determines the outcome of the game and goes down on a “worst calls” compilation somewhere. Even when it makes us mad, it’s still part of the show.

What kills the entertainment value? Stopping the drama to stand around and review the play down to the microsecond, with Court TV style analysis on the broadcast. So when they finally announce the verdict, the game resumes with a dampened energy level. And in situations like Winnipeg the other night, when they get it wrong it isn’t about ending up on a “worst calls” compilation, it’s about people questioning how it’s possible for Toronto to get a 3-minute review wrong and noting that this call changed the payouts on the same gambling network which owns the rights to the broadcast. It’s bad for entertainment, and also bad for the perceived legitimacy of the league.

The call on the ice the other night was no-goal. That was the correct call, as the referee could clearly perceive that interference was taking place. For that to be reviewed and overruled is just a head-scratching moment for what kind of product they’re really trying to put out there.
 

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The call on the ice the other night was no-goal. That was the correct call, as the referee could clearly perceive that interference was taking place. For that to be reviewed and overruled is just a head-scratching moment for what kind of product they’re really trying to put out there.
What goal are you referencing? Do you mean the TBL goal last night against WPG? I've seen the same comment.....original call of interference and then reviewed and changed to good goal. If that is the goal you are referencing, it was not called interference, it was ruled a good goal on the ice and challenged for interference.

You said "the other night" though, so curious which game/goal....trying to remember if I saw another one....I think I saw one in an EDM game where the goal stood....but it was an offside challenge I think....looked clear offside to me, but they let it go. I guess it wasn't super obvious, but clear enough.....anyway, you clearly aren't talking about that one.

It would be hilarious if the entire presentation is just all of the goals he allowed in the prior year's playoffs and his voice-over saying "this was goalie interference!"
I can help but wonder about this a bit. I mean, I'm thinking, did the league ask him to prepare something? If so, makes sense I guess.....but then I'm thinking, why the hell would the league as him to do something like that....so the only logical conclusion here is that he prepared this elaborate presentation, unsolicited, which seems super strange. Then....final conclusion, you have to be a bit strange to be a goalie to begin with (normally), so perhaps it's not as weird as it otherwise appears?
 

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I did this to get out of a municipal ticket and wouldn't you believe it they didn't respond and sent my ticket to collections with a bunch of interest and threats.

"Here's what it looks like when I ACTUALLY run a stop sign with pedestrians nearby. See? Carnage. Nothing like my ticket."
 

brentashton

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Not sure I want a goalies take on interference. They call off way too many goals on so called "interference" as is. Oh a skate touched his pad by a millimetre, better wave it off.
Right?

I mean to get balance you’d also have to consider Corey Perry’s take on it as well.
 
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What goal are you referencing? Do you mean the TBL goal last night against WPG? I've seen the same comment.....original call of interference and then reviewed and changed to good goal. If that is the goal you are referencing, it was not called interference, it was ruled a good goal on the ice and challenged for interference.

You said "the other night" though, so curious which game/goal....trying to remember if I saw another one....I think I saw one in an EDM game where the goal stood....but it was an offside challenge I think....looked clear offside to me, but they let it go. I guess it wasn't super obvious, but clear enough.....anyway, you clearly aren't talking about that one.

It sounds like I misunderstood the sequence of events last night — I thought it had been called no-goal and then overturned.
 

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