Proposal: Colorado & Ottawa

[tucker3434]

Woof

 

[cgf]

That's a weird way to type Karlsson.

 

[internetdotcom]

Do we get Karlsonn? Cuz that's the only player I'd give Barrie and Landeskog up for.

Absolutely. But Karlsson stays in Ottawa.

Barrie alone is probably too much for Chabot and Ryan

 

[Cypher]

Colorado

Gabriel Landeskog
Tyson Barrie

Ottawa

Bobby Ryan
Thomas Chabot

Colorado

Jarome Iginla
Duncan Siemens

Ottawa

Mike Hoffman
Cody Ceci

......is how I view the value.....so ya, Not Happening

 

[HoffmanIsGod68]

*Prior to this deal taking place, Pierre Dorion uses chloroform on Joe Sakic--it is super effective--then Pierre executes both sides of the trade call*

 

[Sureves]

You'd need to add Stone to make this a reasonable proposal to Colorado. That's how far you are value wise.

Really bad proposal sir.

 

[Sureves]

That's a weird way to type Karlsson.

Karlsson's name does not belong in a thread that only involves the Avalanche and Senators.

The OP is horrible, but Karlsson is worth more than legitimately the entire Avalanche roster because of the upcoming expansion draft.

 

[Benttheknee]

If Colorado`s objective is to help Ottawa, they would do this deal.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Karlsson's name does not belong in a thread that only involves the Avalanche and Senators.

The OP is horrible, but Karlsson is worth more than legitimately the entire Avalanche roster because of the upcoming expansion draft.

And we wouldn't want you to potentially lose Bobby Ryan in the expansion draft because you were forced to protect MacKinnon, Duchene, Landeskog, EJ and Varlamov. Glad we've got it figured out, you keep your elite team, we'll keep our bunch of scrubs.

 

[tucker3434]

Karlsson's name does not belong in a thread that only involves the Avalanche and Senators.

The OP is horrible, but Karlsson is worth more than legitimately the entire Avalanche roster because of the upcoming expansion draft.

Yeah, the entire roster...

 

[Sureves]

And we wouldn't want you to potentially lose Bobby Ryan in the expansion draft because you were forced to protect MacKinnon, Duchene, Landeskog, EJ and Varlamov. Glad we've got it figured out, you keep your elite team, we'll keep our bunch of scrubs.

So ok:

MacKinnon, Stone, Duchene, Landeskog, Hoffman, Turris, Zibanejad

Johnson, Ceci, Phaneuf

Varlamov



Or

Turris, Stone, Hoffman, Macarthur, Zibanejad, Ryan, Pageau

Karlsson, Ceci, Phaneuf


Anderson

Do you really think the top one makes for a better team? I don't.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

So ok:

MacKinnon, Stone, Duchene, Landeskog, Hoffman, Turris, Zibanejad

Johnson, Ceci, Phaneuf

Varlamov



Or

Turris, Stone, Hoffman, Macarthur, Zibanejad, Ryan, Pageau

Karlsson, Ceci, Phaneuf


Anderson

Do you really think the top one makes for a better team? I don't.

Do you think Karlsson is so much better than EJ that it completely negates the significant upgrade from Ryan, MacArthur and Pageau to MacKinnon, Duchene and Landeskog, not to mention the upgrade from Anderson to Varlamov? Not to mention the rest of the Avs roster, because they are worthless compared to Karlsson and the single unprotected player the Sensor would lose in this scenario.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Take out Ryan and Chabot and I would do it.

 

[playasRus]

It'd have to be like downgrade + prospect for COL to consider.

Like:
Landeskog
Barrie

for

Ryan
Ceci
White
1st

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

It'd have to be like downgrade + prospect for COL to consider.

Like:
Landeskog
Barrie

for

Ryan
Ceci
White
1st

Better but still not good enough for Colorado to take it.

 

[Benjamin]

Woof

Understatement. Need another "o" or two in there.

 

[Sureves]

Do you think Karlsson is so much better than EJ that it completely negates the significant upgrade from Ryan, MacArthur and Pageau to MacKinnon, Duchene and Landeskog, not to mention the upgrade from Anderson to Varlamov? Not to mention the rest of the Avs roster, because they are worthless compared to Karlsson and the single unprotected player the Sensor would lose in this scenario.

I do: yes.

I also think Anderson and Varlamov are very comparable goaltenders so only gave that piece a flicker of a thought.

Karlsson is the best defenseman in the league. There's a massive gap between him and EJ, to say nothing of the the extra $4M in salary we would take on as part of the deal overall.

Regardless, we're off topic. The OP is ridiculous.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

I do: yes.

I also think Anderson and Varlamov are very comparable goaltenders so only gave that piece a flicker of a thought.

Karlsson is the best defenseman in the league. There's a massive gap between him and EJ, to say nothing of the the extra $4M in salary we would take on as part of the deal overall.

Regardless, we're off topic. The OP is ridiculous.

Not nearly as rediculous as claiming Karlsson is worth more than the entire Avs roster. But, I'm not a Karlsson fanboy, so maybe I'm missing something.

 

[Benjamin]

Not nearly as rediculous as claiming Karlsson is worth more than the entire Avs roster. But, I'm not a Karlsson fanboy, so maybe I'm missing something.

Your own bias?

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Your own bias?

There isn't a single player in the league that is worth more than the entire roster of another team. Not McDavid, not OV, not Crosby, not Karlsson, no one. There is too much parity in the league. I'd trade the 3 best players on the Avs for any other teams entire roster in a heartbeat. OK, maybe not Detroit, but any other team.

But, sure, blame my bias for not believing Karlsson is that valuable.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Your own bias?

Ironic.

EK is a phenomenal player, but it's not biased to question that remark. Look at it objectively. As much as it would suck to lose EK, the Sens would be a much better team all around in that extreme scenario.

 

[Cypher]

So ok:

MacKinnon, Stone, Duchene, Landeskog, Hoffman, Turris, Zibanejad

Johnson, Ceci, Phaneuf

Varlamov



Or

Turris, Stone, Hoffman, Macarthur, Zibanejad, Ryan, Pageau

Karlsson, Ceci, Phaneuf


Anderson

Do you really think the top one makes for a better team? I don't.

So you're saying

The difference between Karlsson and Johnson is greater than the difference between

Mackinnon, Duchene, Landeskog, and Varlamov to Turris, Hoffman, Pagneau, and Anderson

You may want to go to the doctor to get that concussion checked out.

 

[Benjamin]

Karlsson is priceless. As are Crosby and McDavid. You don't trade something that franchises can go decades without.

Sens are more likely to makes those upgrades than ever get another Karlsson.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Karlsson is priceless. As are Crosby and McDavid. You don't trade something that franchises can go decades without.

I completely agree that the Sens would be crazy to trade Karlsson. He's more valuable than any realistic return. But that doesn't make him worth more than an entire roster.

 

[Cypher]

Sure Karlsson has put up good stats and stuff over the course of his career, but as a team, the Sens haven"t really threated to win it all since he came into the league (3 miss playoffs, 3 - 1st round exits and 1 2nd round exit). Sure the Avs havent done much better. but the depth of Mack/Duchene/Landeskog/EJ/Varly would be better for team results rather than just Karlsson IMO