News Article: Colorado Avalanche Media Coverage Part VI

That's just it, though: the depth wasn't trusted as the series progressed even though trusting your depth a little bit more keeps top guys more fresh. That is the concept Bednar either doesn't understand or refuses to accept.

Playing the "third" line under 9 minutes in game 7 isn't wise. Yeah, it's a winner-take-all but again somebody like MacKinnon looks gassed to finish the hockey game. Look at how fresh Mikko looked in the 3rd.

It's not just a one-game or a one-series thing, either. I don't care that the depth was bad for a good portion of the season: F***ING PLAY THEM. The more you rely on MacKinnon/Rantanen/Lehkonen/Necas/etc to play 22+ minutes the less they're going to be fresh during the playoffs.

If a coach immediately thinks his depth can't play, what good is that coach? If all he knows how to do is win if his top guys play amazing, why is this a good coach? I want a coach that can get the most out of a bad roster instead of a coach who can't get the most out of a great roster.

He needs to be punted.
He doesn't hold practices. He forgives errors in games that are due to his lack of practices. He plans his games around 5 skaters and really only coaches 7-8 players in a given season.

If he wasn't in the top five highest paid coaches, he'd probably have been terminated. I know that Bednar would be immediately hired by someone, but I still don't think that is a chance our ownership was willing to take, hence... he's still here.
 
Is Bednar one of the top-five highest paid coaches now? Makes sense.
Yeah, someone posted a screen shot showing coaches salaries earlier and that's where I learned about it. Too lazy to try and find out which thread it was in, so I just searched online and found this....
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4.9M dollars a year for saying, Skate Harder.

My man Jared is living the dream.
 
Yeah, someone posted a screen shot showing coaches salaries earlier and that's where I learned about it. Too lazy to try and find out which thread it was in, so I just searched online and found this....
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4.9M dollars a year for saying, Skate Harder.

My man Jared is living the dream.
Do you have the rest of this list? I want to see who the cheap teams are.
 
Do you have the rest of this list? I want to see who the cheap teams are.
Naw that's all that was in the article.


Capfriendly used to try and get coach contract information, but it's not always publically available I think.
 
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Yeah, someone posted a screen shot showing coaches salaries earlier and that's where I learned about it. Too lazy to try and find out which thread it was in, so I just searched online and found this....
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4.9M dollars a year for saying, Skate Harder.

My man Jared is living the dream.
I see, hey, I have no problem with that, he earned it--was paid peanuts at first, in fact I read one reason he was even hired in the first place was because he would take less than the other guy they had in mind.

So if that list was accurate, I expect that Sullivan remains at the top after signing with the Rangers, and eventually Tocchet will move waaaaay up the list wherever he ends up.

And since that list also has Woodcroft on it it's a little dated, Brind'Amour definitely makes more than that now.
 
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I see, hey, I have no problem with that, he earned it--was paid peanuts at first, in fact I read one reason he was even hired in the first place was because he would take less than the other guy they had in mind.

So if that list was accurate, I expect that Sullivan remains at the top after signing with the Rangers, and eventually Tocchet will move waaaaay up the list wherever he ends up.

And since that list also has Woodcroft on it it's a little dated, Brind'Amour definitely makes more than that now.
Yeah, the list was compiled in March according to the note at the top.

I have absolutely no problems paying coaches. They can make a difference. Bednar created a process here. From what I've read in interviews, the way he prepares this team is different from the way players had previously been coached to some extent. It seems like Jared does all the homework he can, he prepares the players to the best of his ability, but then he separates himself from the actual game. Anything that happens between the opening faceoff and final buzzer is on the players. He doesn't accept responsibility for it. He goes back and talks about how they discussed these things... but if the team fails, he sure as hell does not accept resonsibility for it.

I suppose when you are a decade into a job that has a life-expectancy of 2.5 years, you probably get cagey with some answers but I also think he's just very reserved by nature. Bednar is probably too much of a player's coach.. but then again, Patrick Roy was 100% a fan's coach.
 
Again, the third line played poorly, so it essentially became a 4th line. There just wasn't anywhere to stash Drouin where he wasn't a giant liability. And there wasn't really anyone in the press box who could capably take his place (it sure as hell wasn't going to be Miles Wood after that giant f***up that cost them in game 3). Kivi and Coyle were just plain bad down the stretch (WTF Kivi where was that playoff hero we saw when you were playing for Dallas!?).

I don't know the exact totals of the 4th line's minutes but I saw them plenty in game 7.

And let's not forget, he had the 4th line out there in the closing minutes of a tie game and Drury took the dumb penalty that ultimately cost them the game and series.

And no, you can't just sit there and say F*CKING PLAY THEM when they had the worst goaltending by far in the entire league, no 2nd line center, 3rd line center, or really 4th line center to speak of. If they had truly rolled 4 lines like you keep suggesting they would be getting blown the f*** out every night. There is no coach anywhere in any league, any era, who would do that. Not Scotty Bowman, not Jon Cooper, not Punch Imlach, no one. No coach would throw games like that in order to avoid player burnout.

He played the depth that he had when he finally had it. It's more on management for failing to get that depth in the first place and then scrambling later to acquire it at a higher cost. If they truly want to be a contender next year, then they need to find a way to have a more complete roster in October. NOT March. The good news is they already have their 3C and 4C figured out. Bad news is they have virtually no futures to trade to acquire a 2C, so we'll see what they do.
Why can't you play them? Why do you HAVE to play MacKinnon, Rantanen, Makar the most minutes in the league? Why do Lehkonen and Nichushkin have to play more than any winger in the league ESPECIALLY given their style of play?

Yes, I absolutely can sit here and scream for him to f***ing play the other guys in REGULAR SEASON GAMES. Why are you killing your top players before the new year?

Unless you believe the Avalanche roster - if we remove each team's top 3 players - is hands down 32nd in the league, there is no reason to play the top guys this many minutes but he does it year after year.

It has been proven throughout history: Stanley Cup winners do not manage their lines in the manner Jared Bednar has since 2022. Yet he is insanely stubborn and refuses to change. Thus, today was a failure.

I'll no doubt watch next season, but in no way is this team ever going to win again with Bednar at the helm unless magically they find a 2C who plays like a 1C ala Kadri.
 
It's amazing, he was paid more than Manson.

Think about this. Dude was paid more than Manson (4.75M) to tell five guys to skate harder.
Okay are we SERIOUSLY getting this revisionist over his contributions? This is beyond absurd now.

Dude now holds every conceivable record the franchise has for bench bosses, including any the Nordiques had. We really think all he's done for almost a decade is go in there and tell them to skate harder?

And Manson's contract did far more damage than Bednar's contract ever will.
 
Okay are we SERIOUSLY getting this revisionist over his contributions? This is beyond absurd now.

Dude now holds every conceivable record the franchise has for bench bosses, including any the Nordiques had. We really think all he's done for almost a decade is go in there and tell them to skate harder?

And Manson's contract did far more damage than Bednar's contract ever will.
I call horse shit. Any coach would have had success with these roster, especially the 22 one. Bednar has a unique system that lead to dominance for a good while, but always faltered when the space got tight and the checking got hard. If he was a good coach, he would have had more than 3 practices this year.
 
I call horse shit. Any coach would have had success with these roster, especially the 22 one. Bednar has a unique system that lead to dominance for a good while, but always faltered when the space got tight and the checking got hard. If he was a good coach, he would have had more than 3 practices this year.
Nope. Once again I call bullshit on this just like I call bullshit on people saying they were so good they would've won with any goalie in 2022. Garbage take. It's Bednar's system they used that led to the success they've had, they've been a dominant team at BOTH ends of the ice during the regular season as a result. That doesn't just happen by accident, don't tell me that they just figured out how to play capable offense and defense on their own.

Bednar is a flawed coach and I agree the lack of practices was a boneheaded move. I also have never called him an elite coach, because I don't believe he is. That said, to say he's just ridden on the coattails of the talent he was given is total bullshit.
 
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Nope. Once again I call bullshit on this just like I call bullshit on people saying they were so good they would've won with any goalie in 2022. Garbage take. It's Bednar's system they used that led to the success they've had, they've been a dominant team at BOTH ends of the ice during the regular season as a result. That doesn't just happen by accident, don't tell me that they just figured out how to play capable offense and defense on their own.
Agreed with this. The 2022 team was a wagon both in personnel and in systems. Bednar was as responsible for that cup win as the players were. No one was f***ing with his shit that year. The Bednar hate is getting way out of control here so much so that people are just flat out living in alternate realities with their revisionist histories. Whether or not you believe Bednar is a great coach right now, doesn't change the fact that what he helped achieve in 2022 was the most dominant cup win in the cap era.
 
This thread is becoming more and more like the Mikko thread! For the most part, the folks in the 'Get Rid of Bednar' school are not saying Bednar is a bad person. We are not saying he is a bad coach.

My position is that Bednar would be a fantastic coach for a young team that only has enough talent for one good line. The nature of both the ECHL and the AHL is that type of team is exactly what you get. In all three scenarios, Bednar was given enough talent to make that one line hum. But this team is not young. This team should be able to win on talent and tactics, not just skating harder and faster. Furthermore, his stubborn refusal to try ANYTHING different can work in the regular season. However, in the playoffs, where the coaching staff has only one team to prepare for, Bednar's one-trick pony of a coaching style gets exposed. This is as obvious as day.

Put Bednar in San Jose, and the team would immediately improve. Maybe not make the playoffs for a few years, but come close enough to jack up fan interest. He is a good enough coach for that to happen. I simply don't think he is the guy to run the show when looking for 16 playoff wins.
 
This thread is becoming more and more like the Mikko thread! For the most part, the folks in the 'Get Rid of Bednar' school are not saying Bednar is a bad person. We are not saying he is a bad coach.

My position is that Bednar would be a fantastic coach for a young team that only has enough talent for one good line. The nature of both the ECHL and the AHL is that type of team is exactly what you get. In all three scenarios, Bednar was given enough talent to make that one line hum. But this team is not young. This team should be able to win on talent and tactics, not just skating harder and faster. Furthermore, his stubborn refusal to try ANYTHING different can work in the regular season. However, in the playoffs, where the coaching staff has only one team to prepare for, Bednar's one-trick pony of a coaching style gets exposed. This is as obvious as day.

Put Bednar in San Jose, and the team would immediately improve. Maybe not make the playoffs for a few years, but come close enough to jack up fan interest. He is a good enough coach for that to happen. I simply don't think he is the guy to run the show when looking for 16 playoff wins.
And that's fine. There are plenty of reasonable arguments for Bednar to not be the Avalanche's head coach. So there's no reason to suddenly look back at the entirety of his tenure and say he was always this terrible coach who was propped up by incredible talent.

The lack of adjustments is a problem, the lack of practices this year was a huge problem, so we'll see if they actually address it this next time around. Bednar has shown at times a willingness to learn and adapt, i.e., changing the team's approach when it came to 3-on-3.
 
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