Player Discussion Colin Miller

[RussellmaniaKW]

That hit tho

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[Dr Hook]

That hit tho

Hard to believe there isn't a Chiller thread already! Yes, I agree- that was massive and it was clean too. I don't think you get a penalty there if the guy gets up and plays on. He goes down badly and all of a sudden it's a charge- and a major and a game misconduct? Chiller has shown this before, though not as devastatingly, that he can play the physical game and play it well. It was a nice goal he scored, too.

 

[PlayoffBeard365]

Plays aggressive. Like the kids shot. Quick release. Hope he sticks around.

 

[LouJersey]

Reminds me some of Reed Larson. Has some Manchuk in him. I just really like this kid. Gunslinger mentality. Has some moxie about him and his game. Seems like he's the friend you have that drives his motorcycle 125 mph without a helmet. Reminds me a of a player that would be at home in the NHL in the 80's. Has some old school qualities to me.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Love this guy have been saying that for awhile.Shouldnt have even been a penalty for that hit.

 

[TwineTickler]

Kid was having a heck of a game last night prior to the refs ruining it. If there was no injury that would have been a HUGE game changing hit and momentum swing... it sort of worked out that way anyways but in a different way... but great game for Colly up until he got wrongfully tossed. I love how he's getting more involved in the offense since the coaching change. Training wheels are off. Now he just needs to commit to that style all the time. I can't remember the exact situation but there was a chance last night for an odd man rush after he broke up the puck in the neutral zone but he kind of hesitated as if he was thinking "should I do this"... that will come with more experience and confidence from Bruce.

 

[sarge88]

Anyone ever start an official "Officiating" thread?

Is it frowned upon?

Getting so tired of the awful calls that go against the B's.

That hit was legal......not even close to being penalty worthy.

The ref that was standing right there watching the whole play unfold, didn't even give an inkling that he was going to call a penalty.

 

[Gator Mike]

The Bruins have sheltered him a lot - he doesn't take many defensive zone faceoffs, and he doesn't play much against other teams' top lines... but he's been fairly effective with what he's been asked to do.

 

[DitClapper]

He is becoming Boychuk.

 

[finchster]

The Bruins have sheltered him a lot - he doesn't take many defensive zone faceoffs, and he doesn't play much against other teams' top lines... but he's been fairly effective with what he's been asked to do.

That's the thing, he's been mediocre in a bottom six sheltered role. He still needs to up his game to be an effective NHL player. When Krug was in a similar position, he put up 40 points. He doesn't have to be Krug to be effective, but being a 20ish point (over a full season) bottom pairing offensive defencemen isn't the road to a long career. He has one more season to prove it, I hope he can.

 

[BMC]

He is becoming Boychuk.

I'll take that anytime.

I've been a Colin Miller fan every since he got here and I'm so glad he's finally developing the consistency to go along with his talents.

I just wish he'd go back to #48, #6 has not been a good number for other Bruins who've worn it

 

[wintersej]

That's the thing, he's been mediocre in a bottom six sheltered role. He still needs to up his game to be an effective NHL player. When Krug was in a similar position, he put up 40 points. He doesn't have to be Krug to be effective, but being a 20ish point (over a full season) bottom pairing offensive defencemen isn't the road to a long career. He has one more season to prove it, I hope he can.

He has been OK despite getting young Krug treatment. The offensive zone passing and IQ just isn't as high as it is with Krug. That being said, it doesn't have to be... but there needs to be more. He has the awesome shot and the good puck moving ability... but he needs to produce more than he is.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

That's the thing, he's been mediocre in a bottom six sheltered role. He still needs to up his game to be an effective NHL player. When Krug was in a similar position, he put up 40 points. He doesn't have to be Krug to be effective, but being a 20ish point (over a full season) bottom pairing offensive defencemen isn't the road to a long career. He has one more season to prove it, I hope he can.

uhhh, that chart indicates that he has been very good in his given role. He makes every D partner better. Not sure where you get the 'mediocre' assessment from.

 

[finchster]

uhhh, that chart indicates that he has been very good in his given role. He makes every D partner better. Not sure where you get the 'mediocre' assessment from.

I get the mediocre assessment from watching him play, and your assessment lacks any sophistication.

Answer one question. Do you really think Colin Miller is making every defensive partner better? Colin Miller is making the defence around him better?

OR

The fact that Colin Miller plays few defensive zone faceoffs, gets placed in easier offensive situations, and thus, when players are paired with him they are playing easier ice time than they normally get?

If Colin Miller was making everyone better, he wouldn't be playing 15 minutes a night with the easiest ice time. He would be playing 20+ minutes a night and hard assignments.

I am not saying he doesn't have talent, I said so on numerous occasions. I've said he's got all the tools to be a good NHL defencemen. But if he wants to establish himself as a full time NHL'er, he still needs to up his game.

 

[Dr Hook]

He has been OK despite getting young Krug treatment. The offensive zone passing and IQ just isn't as high as it is with Krug. That being said, it doesn't have to be... but there needs to be more. He has the awesome shot and the good puck moving ability... but he needs to produce more than he is.

He ha room for improvement no doubt- but he has gotten perceptibly better this season and there is no real reason to think he won't continue to improve. He has a ceiling somewhere for sure, and it's most probably not Brent Burns, but I can see him turning into a reliable top 4 puck mover that plays adequate defense. I like how he has been handled this season- he's young, improving, and needs confidence. He's probably cut from a different mental cloth than Carlo and needed a different development path, so good to put him in the best position to play well and succeed. We go from there

 

[Gee Wally]

Per KPD, DOPS will not be taking any further action.


http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/03/...line-for-hit-that-injured-coyotes-burmistrov/

 

[Kegs]

He is becoming Boychuk.

So he will shut down crosby in the playoffs?

 

[BNHL]

That's the thing, he's been mediocre in a bottom six sheltered role. He still needs to up his game to be an effective NHL player. When Krug was in a similar position, he put up 40 points. He doesn't have to be Krug to be effective, but being a 20ish point (over a full season) bottom pairing offensive defencemen isn't the road to a long career. He has one more season to prove it, I hope he can.

A sporadic 88 NHL games under his belt. He needs a steady NHL diet of at least 150 more consecutive,unless he totally blows it.

 

[BMC]

Per KPD, DOPS will not be taking any further action.


http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/03/...line-for-hit-that-injured-coyotes-burmistrov/

Chiller shouldn't have been "disciplined" in the first place

 

[LSCII]

Chiller shouldn't have been "disciplined" in the first place

Exactly. Perfectly clean hit. Only being held accountable for the result which is weak.

 

[BMC]

Exactly. Perfectly clean hit. Only being held accountable for the result which is weak.

That is what really pissed me off. If you look at the video you will see two things:

1. It was a hard but clean hit by Chiller

2. None of the refs raised their arms to call a penalty when the hit took place.

A hit that causes injury is not in and of itself illegal or dirty. Calling a hit illegal because it led to injury isn't just weak it is stupid. Hell they had to invent a "charging" call for it. And don't get me started on the game misconduct bull spit either

 

[BklyNBruiN]

Per KPD, DOPS will not be taking any further action.


http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/03/...line-for-hit-that-injured-coyotes-burmistrov/

Thank you Wally I was just looking for this.. I'm very happy with the NHL decision. Rite on!!

 

[00BW]

A+ hit. Almost identical to the one McAvoy landed on Burmistrov's teammate Crouse in the WJC summer tune up. Only difference is Crouse is bigger so he didn't go down as hard. That really set the tone of that USA team that eventually won.

C Miller is developing nicely. There's some metric someone did where you need to wait until 100 games played to get a feel for an NHL player and C Miller is at 88. His play here in 2017 seems to have turned a corner and he should really take off next year.

 

[AM Bruin]

I've been really impressed with his physicality lately, devastating hit to Burmistrov aside. That's the only question I've had about his game since he arrived in Boston.

I'd personally like to compare him to Duncan Keith. He has the same offensive instinct, damn near same skating style all he needed to do was developed a bit of a nasty edge like Keith. I think the lad is getting there

 

[finchster]

A sporadic 88 NHL games under his belt. He needs a steady NHL diet of at least 150 more consecutive,unless he totally blows it.

You gotta earn that time. When posters state, "It's not Fair! He makes one mistake and sees the bench!" When you play 15 of the easiest minutes a night, you need to play near perfect hockey to play consistently or to get more ice time. Until recently, that has not been the case.