Cole Caufield: Is this the year?

How Many Goals Will Caufield Score in 2023/24?


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Bouboumaster

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It's not like he's having a bad season or anything
He's a solid player with Suzuki and Slaf, I hope they stay together for a long time
At last we have a potent scoring line
 

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That’s the danger with doing simple math like 26 goals in 46 games, so he is a 46 goals scorer . Some fans are doing the same thing with Dach.

That being said , I voted 30 goals at the begging of the year , believing that it was a safe bet . Hopefully, he finds his grooves back next year .
 
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It's not like he's having a bad season or anything
Its a disappointing season. But not a throw away. He developed his game and definitely improved all around. The results simply weren't there.

As much as it's nice to have the assists, his value is in goals. Great that he generated the shots and the underlying numbers are there for the future. If the chances weren't there it'd be a concern but at the end of the day, 20 goals is way below where he should be.
He's a solid player with Suzuki and Slaf, I hope they stay together for a long time
At last we have a potent scoring line
Solid line. A lot will depend on who we get in the draft this year.
 
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That’s the danger with doing simple math like 26 goals in 46 games, so he is a 46 goals scorer . Some fans are doing the same thing with Dach.

That being said , I voted 30 goals at the begging of the year , believing that it was a safe bet . Hopefully, he finds his grooves back next year .
It's not as simple as looking at past goals and assuming the same for the future. You can obviously never predict what a guy will do. But when you put up 300 plus shots, it's pretty certain you're going to get at least 30 something goals and very likely 40 plus.

Look at what happened with Ovechkin. Couldn't score for his life... then suddenly the perecentage normalizes and he's scoring better than he ever has.

If CC's chances weren't there, then it'd be time to worry. But that didn't happen.
 

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It's not as simple as looking at past goals and assuming the same for the future. You can obviously never predict what a guy will do. But when you put up 300 plus shots, it's pretty certain you're going to get at least 30 something goals and very likely 40 plus.

Look at what happened with Ovechkin. Couldn't score for his life... then suddenly the perecentage normalizes and he's scoring better than he ever has.

If CC's chances weren't there, then it'd be time to worry. But that didn't happen.
I agree the chance are there , but the velocity of the shot isn’t. I remember that Last year before the shoulder injury , every shot was a threat. His shot looks softer this year , and he missed the net way more too.

Teams might have adjusted , but hopefully Caufield can find his shot back this summer with proper training.
 
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I agree the chance are there , but the velocity of the shot isn’t. I remember that Last year before the shoulder injury , every shot was a threat. His shot looks softer this year , and he missed the net way more too.

Teams might have adjusted , but hopefully Caufield can find his shot back this summer with proper training.
Maybe this is true. I don't think anyone knows... He fired one off the post the other day that was a laser.

Even if it's not the best shot though... he's still been incredibly unlucky. You'd think the odd shot would've bounced off somebody's ass here and there. :laugh:

The other really weird thing... in January he suddenly comes back. Scores goals in five straight and gets 8 goals in 13. Suddenly looks like he's returned. And then... goes on a 12 game drought. Now, in there is a period where he misses a few practices and has some terrible games. So, maybe it's a health issue, I don't know. But again, even on a weak year he should be doing better just by luck.
 

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It's not the same league.
We hear that a lot but the reality is this team is not scoring much more than those teams.
Roughly 15 goals average over 82 games during Paccioretty 3 most productive seasons. 214 GF 14/15 216 GF 15/16 223 GF 16/17
15 goals times Caufield's 9% of Habs goals scored works out to about 1.35 more goals.
People love to look at the top scoring teams and say goal scoring is way up maybe for so for them but not for us.
 
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We hear that a lot but the reality is this team is not scoring much more than those teams.
Roughly 15 goals average over 82 games during Paccioretty 3 most productive seasons. 214 GF 14/15 216 GF 15/16 223 GF 16/17
15 goals times Caufield's 9% of Habs goals scored works out to about 1.35 more goals.
People love to look at the top scoring teams and say goal scoring is way up maybe for so for them but not for us.

It is across the board, if you look at adjusted scoring (which has a lot of flaws take it with a grain of salt) you lose around 5-10 points on your total compared to the start of the era in 2005, and scoring was "way up" in 2005 😂

It's not really about a team situation it's an individual scoring thing. Scoring is up and goalies decided that stopping the puck was optional now, so this 70pts simply isn't the same as the 2 times Plekanec did it for example

I said it before in here I think, I expect my best winger on my top line with all the PP time to hit PPG fairly easily in this era and that's really not a big ask. I *really* hope he and Suzuki can do it starting next year
 
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It is across the board, if you look at adjusted scoring (which has a lot of flaws take it with a grain of salt) you lose around 5-10 points on your total compared to the start of the era in 2005, and scoring was "way up" in 2005 😂

It's not really about a team situation it's an individual scoring thing. Scoring is up and goalies decided that stopping the puck was optional now, so this 70pts simply isn't the same as the 2 times Plekanec did it for example

I said it before in here I think, I expect my best winger on my top line with all the PP time to hit PPG fairly easily in this era and that's really not a big ask. I *really* hope he and Suzuki can do it starting next year
What don't you get?
People want PPG performances from multiple players on at team that is scoring 230 goals per season.
That just isn't going to happen.

I really don't care about adjusted scoring or anything to do with any other team in the league.
When we start scoring 260 goals a year we can then talk about higher expectations until then it's pointless.
 

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nobody is discrediting it tho? why are you arguing with an imaginary person? it's just putting things into perspective... 70pts objectively isn't what it used to be, it's an important factor to the discussion

And his shooting percentage is an aberration not the norm, so if you want to discredit his season by saying it's not impressive what he's done, then you can infer that with his regulated shooting percentage, we'd be looking at a near PPG season for him.. which regardless of what you think of the scoring environment (where he's one of 4 players on the team that need to be thought about as an offensive threat) it's an impressive season.
 

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nobody is discrediting it tho? why are you arguing with an imaginary person? it's just putting things into perspective... 70pts objectively isn't what it used to be, it's an important factor to the discussion
70 may not be as high of a benchmark as it use to be given the trend in today's NHL, but it remains a level of production that very few players in this organization have achieve in recent memory. So while he's not having an elite season, he's still putting more pts then most despite not living to what we all think is his full potential.

He's coming back from a significant injury and manage to stay relevant offensively despite not playing to his main strength. This is important. This suggest that if he can return to a decent scoring pace, he could very well become elite. Now, nobody will confuse him with McDavid, he not the faster player out there, or the strongest, but his IQ is very high. To be honest, this is a perfect year to have a down year! we have no expectation of result so may a well work on that shoulder and get more rep, stay healthy.... just good stuff for next season realy
 

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Listening to the Basu- Godin podcast.

Basu, I believe it was said that he talked to Caufield and CC said that 20 goals is his basement. He thinks there's more there.

Of course there is more there. But what we have to consider is Caufield is not a 40+ goal guy each and every season. There will be some seasons he gets 20+, some 30+, and some 40+.

I'd be curious to see his season averages once he is 30.
 
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Listening to the Basu- Godin podcast.

Basu, I believe it was said that he talked to Caufield and CC said that 20 goals is his basement. He thinks there's more there.
For what he's getting paid,bloody well better be more.

It's not the same league.
A lot of people make stupid comparisons, this is just another example of poor thinking process. Max was making half of what CC is and Max got paid to be a goal scorer like CC, but he has yet to live up to those expectations and contract. Everybody knew CC was more than a sniper, that he can make plays but his bread and butter is to be a sniper from all that has been established.
 
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70 may not be as high of a benchmark as it use to be given the trend in today's NHL, but it remains a level of production that very few players in this organization have achieve in recent memory. So while he's not having an elite season, he's still putting more pts then most despite not living to what we all think is his full potential.

He's coming back from a significant injury and manage to stay relevant offensively despite not playing to his main strength. This is important. This suggest that if he can return to a decent scoring pace, he could very well become elite. Now, nobody will confuse him with McDavid, he not the faster player out there, or the strongest, but his IQ is very high. To be honest, this is a perfect year to have a down year! we have no expectation of result so may a well work on that shoulder and get more rep, stay healthy.... just good stuff for next season realy

Agreed for the most part, I just really dislike comparing our current future to our recent past. We've been stinky and offense-starved for so long in this god damn city, I don't think "better than a team who hasn't had any offense in 30 years" is the benchmark I want to aim for :laugh:
 

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And his shooting percentage is an aberration not the norm, so if you want to discredit his season by saying it's not impressive what he's done, then you can infer that with his regulated shooting percentage, we'd be looking at a near PPG season for him.. which regardless of what you think of the scoring environment (where he's one of 4 players on the team that need to be thought about as an offensive threat) it's an impressive season.

you're moving the goalpost to a different topic entirely and you're still arguing with an imaginary person who's discrediting players, idk who you're talking to but you seem to be enjoying it I guess so that's good
 
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Kosseca

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Agreed for the most part, I just really dislike comparing our current future to our recent past. We've been stinky and offense-starved for so long in this god damn city, I don't think "better than a team who hasn't had any offense in 30 years" is the benchmark I want to aim for :laugh:
Ah fair enough. I'm also starving for an exciting player that can put 100+pts per season. i'm just not judging Cole season as harshly as some. He's far from perfect... there are so many moment that I wish he was stronger so he could win more physical battle, but he's still on track to be a dam good player for this team. Lets see how he fair next season. to me that will be a more indicative test.
 

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I thought 30 was his basement. :laugh:

Honestly, him being at 20 is shocking. 320 shots and you don't get 30 goals out of it? Insane.
His shot % has been awful..............could the surgery had some effect??

Look for a big rebound year next year for sure....
He has played a much better all around 200ft type of game....and he has shown he can pass the puck.
 

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