Proposal: COL + MTL

[Ncit3]

No trade to be made between these teams. Nothing on the Habs, that is available, is even slightly of interest to Colorado. Habs have young untouchable young talent and a bunch of trash. Keep your trash away from Colorado.

 

[habstradamus]

No trade to be made between these teams. Nothing on the Habs, that is available, is even slightly of interest to Colorado. Habs have young untouchable young talent and a bunch of trash. Keep your trash away from Colorado.

Our trash (Lekky) turned out pretty useful to the avs in last year's SC run.

 

[StewieP19]

Our trash (Lekky) turned out pretty useful to the avs in last year's SC run.

Did he play for Montréal this year ???
No
I'm pretty sure Montréal and Colorado are not a fit for a trade. Colorado don't need what Montréal want to give and Montréal don't need what Colorado want to give too.

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Our trash (Lekky) turned out pretty useful to the avs in last year's SC run.

And Lehkonen was probably one of the last useful pieces you guys had to trade, given that he was a 26 year old pending RFA with very good 2 way skills who had a $1.3m cap hit, after retention. He was exactly the kind of player that teams want to add at the TDL.

Your currently available crop of overpaid, pending UFAs whose last good seasons were 2018-19 aren't nearly as useful and probably won't be of much interest, even at the TDL.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Girard doesn't make a ton of sense for Montreal, the cap space of just letting contracts expire probably serves them better in the long run. Newhook doesn't inspire much confidence, but he's still got upside. Pretty meh on it from a Habs POV, although I don't get why Colorado would do it.

And Lehkonen was probably one of the last useful pieces you guys had to trade, given that he was a 26 year old pending RFA with very good 2 way skills who had a $1.3m cap hit, after retention. He was exactly the kind of player that teams want to add at the TDL.

Your currently available crop of overpaid, pending UFAs whose last good seasons were 2018-19 aren't nearly as useful and probably won't be of much interest, even at the TDL.

Considering the near universal sentiment on here from Avs fans about the value (in both trade and on-ice) of Lehkonen pre-trade, I'm going to take the bolded with an industrial vat full of salt.

 

[DaPhazz]

You forgot to add Florida and Montreal’s 2023 1st round picks going from the Habs to the Avs.

Otherwise, this is comically awful for Colorado. Hard pass.

What the Habs should do is test the market for those pieces individually with 50% retention and look for futures in return.

What the Avs should do? Keep Girard and Newhook because they are both good and important players.

yeah yeah yeah he totally forgot the two 1st, yeah yeah sure sure yeah

 

[bert]

Avs <-- Monahan (50% ret.) Drouin/Dadonov (50% ret.) Edmundson (50% ret.)

Habs <-- Newhook, Girard


Colorado get a couple of veteran middle 6 forwards on expiring contracts, and a veteran LD in Edmundson who comes with just a 1.75 million cap hit through next season. They also get out from Girard's long term contract

Montreal add a talented young forward in Newhook to their long term core, plus a 24 year old LD from Quebec in Girard who's just entering his prime

Theres like one of these a day! Montreal out to lunch at a hilarious level.

 

[McJedi]

yeah yeah yeah he totally forgot the two 1st, yeah yeah sure sure yeah

The value of the OPs offer is preposterously favorable to Montreal… so yes. Habs add. A lot. They add several assets to bridge the vast value gap.

 

[DaPhazz]

The value of the OPs offer is preposterously favorable to Montreal… so yes. Habs add. A lot. They add several assets to bridge the vast value gap.

Agreed, but how many Monahan game's you guys watched this year, he's been a solid 2C, to the point that I started wishing we could sign him for a few more years. At this point let's hope his injuries are not that bad.

And believe or not, our man Kent's gonna bend someone hard with Edmundson at the trade deadline.. he's playoffs material.

 

[Linds]

Lot of people on this board still put top 3 D value on Girard. He’s been really, really average over the past year and a half.

Well he's blocked by Makar JT Byram

Also how is this shit thread not locked up? The OP's trade actually embarrassing or a troll

 

[Pyrophorus]

Junk for good young players
Avs way pass.

You can get Newhook and the fugitive....Caufield and your 1st

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Considering the near universal sentiment on here from Avs fans about the value (in both trade and on-ice) of Lehkonen pre-trade, I'm going to take the bolded with an industrial vat full of salt.

You can be as salty as you want, but people on a message board squabbling over the value of Lehkonen doesn't really change the fact that your current crop of available players doesn't really have anyone even worth squabbling about.

 

[McJedi]

Agreed, but how many Monahan game's you guys watched this year, he's been a solid 2C, to the point that I started wishing we could sign him for a few more years. At this point let's hope his injuries are not that bad.

And believe or not, our man Kent's gonna bend someone hard with Edmundson at the trade deadline.. he's playoffs material.

Edmundson will fetch y’all something decent for sure. I don’t disagree.

Monahan (50% retained) may fetch you a 2nd. Assumes he’s healthy and that’s often not the case. He’s not healthy today. But he’s playing pretty well when healthy for the Habs. He’s a rental. He’s a C. I’m not saying he’s got no value unless he gets more seriously injured.

But this OP is absolute trash for the Avs and robbery for the Habs. It’s so far off on value and need.

 

[Captain Mountain]

You can be as salty as you want, but people on a message board squabbling over the value of Lehkonen doesn't really change the fact that your current crop of available players doesn't really have anyone even worth squabbling about.

Guess you've never heard of the "pinch of salt" idiom.

 

[Dr Amazing]

Montreal needs to overpay for Girard.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Drouin/Dadonov don't return much, and trading Girard and Newhook for the rest of that package would be ridiculous.

Drouin and Dadonov are going nowhere but staying with the Habs and expiring. I doubt we even get a 7th rounder for them at the deadline. Habs will want to keep our cap space to retain on others (if possible) and who has the cap room to add their cap hits? Even prorated for 25% of the season? Pretty sure cup contenders or the top 10/12 teams will use their available cap on better players.

Any Habs fans trying to throw Drouin or Dadonov in a trade package right now are dreaming.

 

[ginovegas]

we don't need Girard, we already have to much left D and our top prospect is a left d also

 

[Linds]

we don't need Girard, we already have to much left D and our top prospect is a left d also

Montreal needs NHL D in general. That D core is embarrassing

 

[Baksfamous112]

Well he's blocked by Makar JT Byram

Also how is this shit thread not locked up? The OP's trade actually embarrassing or a troll

He was easily a top 4 D before. Maybe he’s blocking himself?

Montreal needs NHL D in general. That D core is embarrassing

4/6 are 21 or younger. They need ice time and experience. A young top pairing D wouldn’t hurt either

 

[IWantSakicAsMyGM]

Guess you've never heard of the "pinch of salt" idiom.

Just trying to figure out how the hell it applies to anything I said. Do you really think that people squabbling over what Lehkonen was worth somehow changes the fact that your current group of available players are overpaid, underperforming UFAs that have significantly less value?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Girard doesn't make a ton of sense for Montreal, the cap space of just letting contracts expire probably serves them better in the long run. Newhook doesn't inspire much confidence, but he's still got upside. Pretty meh on it from a Habs POV, although I don't get why Colorado would do it.



Considering the near universal sentiment on here from Avs fans about the value (in both trade and on-ice) of Lehkonen pre-trade, I'm going to take the bolded with an industrial vat full of salt.

There was a lot of interest in Lehkonen by Avs fans. He was constantly mentioned. Avs fans valued him.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I am a homer but this is BAD. Brutal for Colorado.

It might be bad for the Avs but if you are a homer, how would you know? . I'm kidding

There was a lot of interest in Lehkonen by Avs fans. He was constantly mentioned. Avs fans valued him.

This reply today is funny cause there was a lot of Avs fans saying Lehkonen is only worth a 2nd rounder when we were talking trades last season before the deadline. Don't give me a Avs fans all say the same thing narrative. Every fan base has the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Disagree? We can go back and look at it. Anybody want to bump a few Lehkonen trade threads forward?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Just trying to figure out how the hell it applies to anything I said. Do you really think that people squabbling over what Lehkonen was worth somehow changes the fact that your current group of available players are overpaid, underperforming UFAs that have significantly less value?

You won't see too much disagreement on pending UFA's like Drouin, Dadonov, and Byron. Monahan is an interesting one and hard to evaluate. Still young but went through some years of injury trouble and now he is performing very well for the Habs once healthy but he is dealing with a nagging injury again. Got to see him play again.

If the best offer for Monahan is a 2nd rounder, I really do think we consider resigning him.

 

[John Mandalorian]

It might be bad for the Avs but if you are a homer, how would you know? . I'm kidding



This reply today is funny cause there was a lot of Avs fans saying Lehkonen is only worth a 2nd rounder when we were talking trades last season before the deadline. Don't give me a Avs fans all say the same thing narrative. Every fan base has the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Disagree? We can go back and look at it. Anybody want to bump a few Lehkonen trade threads forward?

Are you also going to bump all of the Price/Drouin to the Avs threads?

When you look at what Tampa paid for Hagel, the Avs paid less for Lehkonen. Also, did Montreal get a 1st from the Avs? Are you assuming the Avs FO still valued Barron the same as when they drafted him? Is he even on Montreals roster yet? Maybe there's a reason the Avs were willing to trade him?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Are you also going to bump all of the Price/Drouin to the Avs threads?

When you look at what Tampa paid for Hagel, the Avs paid less for Lehkonen. Also, did Montreal get a 1st from the Avs? Are you assuming the Avs FO still Barron the same as when they drafted him? Is he even on Montreals roster yet? Maybe there's a reason the Avs were willing to trade him?

You can if you want to. It further proves my point. We like to beat each other up when in truth, all fan bases overrate their own and undervalue others.

But I get this feeling that you think Avs fans are golden and are never off in value but Habs fans are. Grouping mentality is stupid because I doubt all Avs fans are united like that.