TheGroceryStick
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Phaneuf is a LD
He is a LH Dman that prefers the right side.
If I am not mistaken, he has looked quite lost when tried on the left side in the past.
Phaneuf is a LD
Wow if a 3rd pairing dman gets more than 4mil and long term contract then
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He is a LH Dman that prefers the right side.
If I am not mistaken, he has looked quite lost when tried on the left side in the past.
Wonder how much AAV it would take to get Ottawa to not match a front-loaded 5 year offer sheet on Ceci.
Spooner for Ceci
Wow if a 3rd pairing dman gets more than 4mil and long term contract then
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Spooner for Ceci
Credibility = lost. Ceci is a 3rd pairing Dman like Crosby is a 2C .
Nooooo thank you.
I'm not sure how anyone could justify Ceci being a top 4 defenceman. He looked absolutely awful for 80% of the season. Then when he was paired with Phaneuf he went on a super unsustainable tear for a dozen games or so.
I'm not sure how anyone could justify Ceci being a top 4 defenceman. He looked absolutely awful for 80% of the season. Then when he was paired with Phaneuf he went on a super unsustainable tear for a dozen games or so.
I'm not sure how anyone could justify Ceci being a top 4 defenceman. He looked absolutely awful for 80% of the season. Then when he was paired with Phaneuf he went on a super unsustainable tear for a dozen games or so.
I'm not sure how anyone could justify Ceci NOT being a top 4 Dman. He carried scrubs like Cowen and Borowiecki, and once he had a legit top 4 Dman in Phaneuf to play with, he looked more like a 2/3 Dman. Try watching the man play. If you think Ceci is a bottom pairing Dman, then you are totally out to lunch.
So...in other words, when he wasn't paired with the tire fire Jared Cowen or the almost as crappy Patrick Wiercioch? Who'd have thought?
Looking at their shot proxies, you'll see that the pairing was pretty mediocre and was outshot frequently.
That's because our whole friggin' TEAM was routinely outshot, and badly so. The team gave up over 30 shots a game, pretty much every game, and sometimes much more than 30. That is a system issue, and a not blocking shots and not getting in the shooting lanes issue, team-wide. Again, a system issue. Ceci is in every way a top 4 Dman, and to say otherwise is uninformed and just plain wrong. But I've grown tired of your uninformed Sens posts in this and other threads. I'll likely just block you. Good day, sir.
This just shows how little you know about advanced stats. Relative stats show how the team fares when Ceci is on the ice versus when he is off the ice. It has nothing to do with how many shots the team gives up. By your logic Karlsson would have terrible shot proxies, but he is among the best in the nhl.
You just keep repeating the same sentiment, but aren't able to provide anything to back up your stubborn claim, except for 'because I said so!'. Grow up.
I'm not the uninformed one, you are. Good day.
This just shows how little you know about advanced stats. Relative stats show how the team fares when Ceci is on the ice versus when he is off the ice. It has nothing to do with how many shots the team gives up. By your logic Karlsson would have terrible shot proxies, but he is among the best in the nhl.
You just keep repeating the same sentiment, but aren't able to provide anything to back up your stubborn claim, except for 'because I said so!'. Grow up.
I'm not the uninformed one, you are. Good day.
Advanced stats have spoken.
No need for an opinion. Commence mind closing.
Wow if a 3rd pairing dman gets more than 4mil and long term contract then
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I think the reason why people are so allergic to advanced stats is because they don't understand them. In reality they are far less "advanced" and more over simple.
Btw, my whole opinion on Ceci isn't based on advanced stats, they just support my opinion.