Coaching is a serious problem.

[Monsieur Miz]

We hired a guy who never coached to be the coach of the montreal canadiens. I know its old news but its so silly to think about. Our GM hired his friend with zero coaching experience to coach one of the most high pressure and attention hockey franchises in the world.

Same thing could be said about Vincent Lecavalier. Why the f*** was this guy hired lol? Zero experience anywhere.

 

[Vachon23]

Same thing could be said about Vincent Lecavalier. Why the f*** was this guy hired lol? Zero experience anywhere.

Vinny is in a good position to start his executive career though. He dosen’t take decision

 

[ZUKI]

Lets just tank one last time

- my girlfriend every night, when she wanted a baby

 

[RationalExpectations]

I’m fairly confident MSL has the experience necessary to analyze and identify other teams’ systems and adjust accordingly. It’s not magic or rocket science (even if many in this thread seem to think it is). If he’s learning how to make in-game adjustments better, I’m fine with that too. I’m not going to agree with every one of his choices, but I find the team to typically respond well, even if the outcomes aren’t always there. I really don’t think this is an issue related to MSL’s analytical/tactical capacity or fit with the club. I’d be fine if they brought in an experienced assistant coach to provide more support for the defensive group specifically though.

When it comes to Matheson’s minutes, I’d rather Matheson take the heat than Guhle or Hutson. Xhekaj played very poorly to start the year at both ends of the ice and he earned a spot in the press box. Struble and Barron have also sat. This is a non-issue when guys are still getting good minutes. I’d be happy to take Matheson off PP1, but I don’t mind Hutson having the play flow through him with his own unit - even if it’s with fewer skilled players. Matheson isn’t a 1D and shows us that every game, but putting one of our young guys in that position isn’t going to benefit them or the team if they aren’t ready… and I don’t think they are.

The hybrid system is proving to have a steep learning curve for some of our players. That’s the regression. The team might have marginally better outcomes if they moved back to man-to-man or played zone. If things don’t shift soon I’m expecting they might. I don’t expect them to change coaches unless MSL himself wants out.

This hybrid system is based on a flawed hypothesis : that man to man is necessary to apply pressure on your opponent. This is false, because you can apply pressure on any player in the area the coach has defined in your area while making sure high danger areas are always covered as long as you have zone coverage in those areas, which is why zone systems are far superior.

Man to man makes sure you will generate chances in your back except if every single one of your players is better than his own opponent, which is impossible at NHL level.

Really jealous of not having a guy like Brindamour or Maurice behind the bench.

 

[Vachon23]

Without the language issues, we should be all in on David Carle

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

This hybrid system is based on a flawed hypothesis : that man to man is necessary to apply pressure on your opponent. This is false, because you can apply pressure on any player in the area the coach has defined in your area while making sure high danger areas are always covered as long as you have zone coverage in those areas, which is why zone systems are far superior.

Man to man makes sure you will generate chances in your back except if every single one of your players is better than his own opponent, which is impossible at NHL level.

Really jealous of not having a guy like Brindamour or Maurice behind the bench.

The system doesn't work, it doesn't necessarily mean the coach sucks. We could throw the system out and see if that works.

Totally get why they're trying this but it's clear that it doesn't work.

 

[Draft]

This hybrid system is based on a flawed hypothesis : that man to man is necessary to apply pressure on your opponent. This is false, because you can apply pressure on any player in the area the coach has defined in your area while making sure high danger areas are always covered as long as you have zone coverage in those areas, which is why zone systems are far superior.

Man to man makes sure you will generate chances in your back except if every single one of your players is better than his own opponent, which is impossible at NHL level.

Really jealous of not having a guy like Brindamour or Maurice behind the bench.

Are you aware that Maurice uses a very similar hybrid system to what MSL has implemented? Or that Brind’Amour relies heavily on man-on-man and has been criticized for it when it falls apart come playoffs?

 

[CHwest]

This hybrid system is based on a flawed hypothesis : that man to man is necessary to apply pressure on your opponent. This is false, because you can apply pressure on any player in the area the coach has defined in your area while making sure high danger areas are always covered as long as you have zone coverage in those areas, which is why zone systems are far superior.

Man to man makes sure you will generate chances in your back except if every single one of your players is better than his own opponent, which is impossible at NHL level.

Really jealous of not having a guy like Brindamour or Maurice behind the bench.

As am I, but we all know why that will never happen.

 

[1909]

We hired a guy who never coached to be the coach of the montreal canadiens. I know its old news but its so silly to think about. Our GM hired his friend with zero coaching experience to coach one of the most high pressure and attention hockey franchises in the world.

And our GM was a rookie too selected by a friend, Gorton…..

As am I, but we all know why that will never happen.

That is your obsession, right ? Habs have won 24 Championships with a blend of French and on-French speaking players. And ALL the coaches (except for one) were bilingual since Blake.
I was totally against the hiring of MSL, But there were other way better options out there.

 

[1909]

How many more games for MSL behind the bench ?

The next two road games should give the answer.

 

[Tyson]

How many more games for MSL behind the bench ?

The next two road games should give the answer.

Is his ego too big to accept help behind the bench?

 

[1909]

Is his ego too big to accept help behind the bench?

If he would have a real ego and pride, he would just resign by himself.

 

[Tyson]

If he would have a real ego and pride, he would just resign by himself.

 

[teamfirst]

Is his ego too big to accept help behind the bench?

Surely looks like that

How many more games for MSL behind the bench ?

The next two road games should give the answer.

If we get blown in Buffalo and minny he's gone

 

[1909]

Surely looks like that

If we get blown in Buffalo and minny he's gone

There is no acceptable way to put a product like that in front of 21,000 fans who paid huge $$$$$ for a competitive, entertaining show.

 

[CHwest]

And our GM was a rookie too selected by a friend, Gorton…..


That is your obsession, right ? Habs have won 24 Championships with a blend of French and on-French speaking players. And ALL the coaches (except for one) were bilingual since Blake.
I was totally against the hiring of MSL, But there were other way better options out there.

I'll take anyone, but I am the obsessed one.

 

[teamfirst]

I'll take anyone, but I am the obsessed one.

Nah, you're obsess about that ....own it.

There is no acceptable way to put a product like that in front of 21,000 fans who paid huge $$$$$ for a competitive, entertaining show.

something as to give that's for sure, the guy's seems to have quit on the coach, anyway we'll see

 

[1909]

I'll take anyone, but I am the obsessed one.

yes you are. You don’t lose any minutes at any time to point that over and over.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Are you aware that Maurice uses a very similar hybrid system to what MSL has implemented? Or that Brind’Amour relies heavily on man-on-man and has been criticized for it when it falls apart come playoffs?

This is completely false actually. Brind amour has one of the most strict zone coverage in the league. The issue with CAR is scoring goals in the playoffs much more than defense.

The only thing is that his Dzone coverage is cut in very large areas but the slot is always covered by somedbody as soon as someone leaves it.

 

[CHwest]

yes you are. You don’t lose any minutes at any time to point that over and over.

I point it out because it's true and it hinders the team, I would suggest you are the obsessed one because where I say it there you are.

 

[BLONG7]

It seems everyone knows our play in our own end, is awful, except Marty?

 

[Draft]

This is completely false actually. Brind amour has one of the most strict zone coverage in the league. The issue with CAR is scoring goals in the playoffs much more than defense.

The only thing is that to some his Dzone coverage is cut in very large areas but the slot is always covered by somedbody as soon as someone leaves it.

Not false and doubling down is kind of embarrassing. If you can’t tell by watching it yourself, you can look it up. You’re welcome to reference the following:

Systems Analyst: Breaking down the best defensive strategies for playoffs – Sportsnet.ca

3 Keys: Hurricanes at Rangers, Game 1 of Eastern 2nd Round | NHL.com

Carolina must stay hot on power play; New York needs to overcome forecheck

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https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article288277385.html

Hurricanes' forecheck key part of their identity, success | NHL.com

Recchi says Carolina pressure creates turnovers, limits odd-man rushes

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No comment on Maurice using a hybrid system? Surely a brilliant coach like that wouldn’t work off such a faulty hypothesis.

 

[HabzSauce]

I'm talking about what I'm seeing. Gally was apparently yelling at his bench last night and it doesn't appear it had any effect on the team. His playing hard with Evans since the season started and nobody else on the roster is following.

If the kids don't respect gally they need to be traded. Don't think that's the issue tho this team just sucks. Something stinky is going around in that locker room

 

[RationalExpectations]

Not false and doubling down is kind of embarrassing. If you can’t tell by watching it yourself, you can look it up. You’re welcome to reference the following:

Systems Analyst: Breaking down the best defensive strategies for playoffs – Sportsnet.ca

3 Keys: Hurricanes at Rangers, Game 1 of Eastern 2nd Round | NHL.com

Carolina must stay hot on power play; New York needs to overcome forecheck

www.nhl.com

Rangers/Canes systems preview: A battle of execution

With the first round recaps all wrapped up, it's time to jump into our second round previews, starting with a Rangers/Canes systems preview. The Carolina Hurric

blueseatblogs.com

https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article288277385.html

Hurricanes' forecheck key part of their identity, success | NHL.com

Recchi says Carolina pressure creates turnovers, limits odd-man rushes

www.nhl.com

Assessing the Carolina Hurricanes New Look Defence for 2024-25

The Carolina Hurricanes had some turnover on defence this offseason, but how does their new defensive group stack up to last season's?

lastwordonsports.com

No comment on Maurice using a hybrid system? Surely a brilliant coach like that wouldn’t work off such a faulty hypothesis.

First most of the explications are based on the forechecking part of the strategy. Sure they are agressive on the puck carrier. In their Dzone these "analysts" just mention they play man to man but don't justify it.
Just look at CAR games ans tell me how often the slot is open, how often a Dman leaves the front of the net without anybody replacing him ?
The thing is that CAR IS so efficient on the forecheck that they don't often need to be on the backcheck.

 

[morhilane]

If the kids don't respect gally they need to be traded. Don't think that's the issue tho this team just sucks. Something stinky is going around in that locker room

There is definitively something stinky in the locker room.