Coaching is a serious problem.

Nevins

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He is slow to react to much of anything in game situations and the biggest knock on this year’s team is they start the games unprepared for battle, a trait normally blamed on the coach.

And the defensive woes are in part his fault. He uses what he calls a hybrid system that is part man-on-man and part zone defence. It’s a system that doesn’t work, as evidenced on Tuesday. The D looked lost on every single goal. Yet St. Louis sticks with it.
Part of the reason might be that he appears to be more stubborn than his funky quotes might suggest. When the spit hit the fan last week after the Rangers debacle, some of the first rumblings of St. Louis criticism surfaced. But the coach said he wouldn’t be paying attention to his critics.

Why would I listen to a (critique) from someone that I would never go to get advice from,” St. Louis said.
I think that’s a great philosophy for a player, especially a player like St. Louis who was never drafted and yet became an NHL superstar. But maybe a coach should be listening to some of the criticism, maybe the coach should have some more experienced people on this coaching staff to give him advice.
But my patience is wearing thin re. St. Louis’s highfalutin post-game aphorisms and refusal to express any outrage at what he’s seeing on the ice.


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Losing like this consistently is not good for development. Worst coaching staff in the NHL.
 

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He is slow to react to much of anything in game situations and the biggest knock on this year’s team is they start the games unprepared for battle, a trait normally blamed on the coach.

And the defensive woes are in part his fault. He uses what he calls a hybrid system that is part man-on-man and part zone defence. It’s a system that doesn’t work, as evidenced on Tuesday. The D looked lost on every single goal. Yet St. Louis sticks with it.
Part of the reason might be that he appears to be more stubborn than his funky quotes might suggest. When the spit hit the fan last week after the Rangers debacle, some of the first rumblings of St. Louis criticism surfaced. But the coach said he wouldn’t be paying attention to his critics.

Why would I listen to a (critique) from someone that I would never go to get advice from,” St. Louis said.
I think that’s a great philosophy for a player, especially a player like St. Louis who was never drafted and yet became an NHL superstar. But maybe a coach should be listening to some of the criticism, maybe the coach should have some more experienced people on this coaching staff to give him advice.
But my patience is wearing thin re. St. Louis’s highfalutin post-game aphorisms and refusal to express any outrage at what he’s seeing on the ice.


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What the English translation

MSL : In the 2nd, nothing was perfect. There were mistakes on both sides. And during the 3rd, we puked on ourselves. It's that simple!

Journalist : You had a 5v3, you had your chances to get a goal...

MSL : Yeah well when you puke on yourself, you gotta score!

High IQ stuff. Unless you were talking about the autogenerated one that made no sense LOL.
 

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This thread is a good example as to why a rebuild was delayed for so long in Montreal. The fans and the media do not have the patience to cope with it. Progression was never going to be linear and continuously upward, for the team and individual players. Also, in a rebuild, player development oftentimes supersedes the need to win.

We finally have competent management at all levels of the organization that is highly respected throughout of the NHL. Why do you think somebody like Laine accepted a trade to MTL to be coached by MSL? And you want to go back to the last 35 years of recycled hasbeens whose greatest quality is that they can speak French and won some games in the QJMHL, and are liked and promoted by RDS/sport radio buffoons?
 

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This thread is a good example as to why a rebuild was delayed for so long in Montreal. The fans and the media do not have the patience to cope with it. Progression was never going to be linear and continuously upward, for the team and individual players. Also, in a rebuild, player development oftentimes supersedes the need to win.

We finally have competent management at all levels of the organization that is highly respected throughout of the NHL. Why do you think somebody like Laine accepted a trade to MTL to be coached by MSL? And you want to go back to the last 35 years of recycled hasbeens whose greatest quality is that they can speak French and won some games in the QJMHL, and are liked and promoted by RDS/sport radio buffoons?
St. Louis or any coach isn’t given unlimited leash because we’re in rebuild status. Coaches are still evaluated on what they’re doing. It has nothing to do with “impatience.” The coaching has sucked putting it lightly this year. The players have no game plan.
 

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St. Louis or any coach isn’t given unlimited leash because we’re in rebuild “status.” Coaches are still evaluated on what they’re doing. It has nothing to do with “impatience.” The coaching has sucked putting it lightly this year. The players have no game plan.
The coaching is fine, the players are just not good enough. Everybody in the organization and the rest of the NHL knows that. This is a team of overpaid veterans, a bunch of early 20s guys, and Nick Suzuki. Nobody is winning anything with that. Changing the defensive "system" would have no significant impact.
 
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From the time Eve said to Adam.."you eat the damn apple, I'm going partying with the girls"...you can bet the kids are going to push back by not listening to Marty.

Then you got no development, no future and the 2030 rebuild...
 
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Monsieur Miz

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This thread is a good example as to why a rebuild was delayed for so long in Montreal. The fans and the media do not have the patience to cope with it. Progression was never going to be linear and continuously upward, for the team and individual players. Also, in a rebuild, player development oftentimes supersedes the need to win.

We finally have competent management at all levels of the organization that is highly respected throughout of the NHL. Why do you think somebody like Laine accepted a trade to MTL to be coached by MSL? And you want to go back to the last 35 years of recycled hasbeens whose greatest quality is that they can speak French and won some games in the QJMHL, and are liked and promoted by RDS/sport radio buffoons?

To be fair I doubt teams were lining up to trade for Laine. Even for free, most teams had no cap space.
 

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To be fair I doubt teams were lining up to trade for Laine. Even for free, most teams had no cap space.
Laine said no to other teams, and yes to Montreal, the fishbowl capital of the NHL with Toronto. You think he did not like his conversation with MSL?
 

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