What does he need to do to be enshrined?
negatives
-no cups wins
-well under 100pts in the playoffs
-only 180 goals scored and 575 pts scored--300 to 400 goals and 1000 pts is usually the starting point for the hall for healthy player
- no 30/40 or 50 goal seasons
--no 100 pt sason
--no personal trophies
-has he ever been the best player in the NHL? being the best player on your team is one thing(Markus Nasland would be in the hall if that was the case)
while he has gotten golden medals he played on stacked teams that hurts and that is why many people down play team victories
right now he is not close
it is the hall of greatness not the hall of very good
He was probably the best player in the NHL that 2011-2012 season. He remained elite for the next few seasons but has had a sharp drop off since Hakstol took over. Is it coaching, injuries (hes had multiple surgeries), or just age? Not sure at this point.
Nope.
Top 3 in regular season followed by 17 points in 10 Playoff games certainly has him in the discussion.
Malkin was the best forward in the regular season but was kept in check by an 18 year old Sean Couturier in the Playoffs.
Stamkos did not make the Playoffs.
Either way..back to Giroux and his HOF chances...its a long shot and he would have to have a great back 9 of his career with at least 1 Cup as a major contributor.
This doesn't mean anything, it took everything and serious complaints for them to finally invite MSL because of injuries shortly after he won the Ross. ********. Team Canada has so much deepness that they can choose players among stars for stupid personal or political reasons. I remember when Canada didn't invite Mario Lemieux in juniors. Total garbage. Use any argument you want, not this one. If it was only talent-based, Giroux would have made it. But it's not. Marketing is everything. I root for them to lose in every competition, and I'm proud of it.
Gatekeeper to the hall is Pierre Turgeon.
If Giroux wants in, he needs to have a better career than Turgeon.
Start by winning anything of any significance at any point in his career.
This.
Maybe Philly will start a PowerPlay Hockey Hall of Fame and he might have a chance at getting in.
canada didn't invite lemieux to the juniors?
not the way i remember it.
he declined the invite saying that it would detract from his chance to break the record for the most points in a season which was more important to him then playing for our country.
There were rumors – which Lemieux has denied – that he would refuse to play for a lesser NHL team, that he was offered $250,000 by Quebec league owners to play one more year of junior. But he did refuse to play for the Canadian junior national team this year, and he took the Quebec league to court, and his name appeared in headlines for much more than scoring the ungodly sum of 282 points in 70 games.
“When he turned down the Canadian junior team, it created an awful big story,â€Â Perno says.
A big, complicated story. It begins this way: Lemieux played for last year’s Canadian national junior team, which was coached by defense-oriented Dave King. Lemieux scored 11 points in the first four games of the world junior tournament, but King, seeking more checking, benched him for the last three games. Lemieux fumed. “After that, Mario said, ‘I will never play for him again,’â€Â says Robert Bousquet, who covers the Quebec league for Montreal’s la Presse. “King has said he doesn’t like Lemieux because he thinks too much offensively.â€Â
“We had a misunderstanding, me and him,â€Â Lemieux says.
King coached this year̢۪s Canadian Olympic team. Lemieux was not invited (Canada, coincidentally, reached the Olympic medal round but did not score a goal in its last three games). When the junior national team wanted him again, Lemieux, motivated by the bitterness of his world junior experience and the chance for Quebec league scoring records, said no.
“It wound up in court – the junior league was going to suspend him,â€Â Perno says. This is because the Quebec league has assured Hockey Canada that its best players would be available for international competition. Any player refusing to compete in the world junior tournament would be unable to compete for his league team for the duration of the tournament – approximately two weeks.
“I wanted to stay in Laval,â€Â Lemieux says. “I wanted to spend Christmas with my family, because it may be my last Christmas here. I had experienced the tournament two years ago. I just wanted to play in Laval, maybe get some records, finish first in the league.â€Â
“It was the first time a French Canadian had turned down the big machine,â€Â Perno says. “There was a lot of criticism. We told him going to court might affect the [NHL] draft, but he wanted to do it.â€Â Lemieux won the case, did not go to the junior tournament and continued to play for Laval.
“People here now regard Mario Lemieux as a hero,â€Â Perno says, “because he stood up and fought for what he believed was right.â€Â
Gatekeeper to the hall is Pierre Turgeon.
If Giroux wants in, he needs to have a better career than Turgeon.
Jordan Staal has no real business being in the HHOF. I'd put Giroux in before him.
are locks for the Hall of Fame (not counting the Mcdavid era). I'm sure i'm forgetting some really good players but sure fire locks for the Hall?