Value of: Chris Kreider to the Leafs at the draft.

[lanceuppercut75]

Kreider and his type of situation are the type of players I can see Toronto trying to take advantage of, kind of like when Carolina traded for Patches @ his full cap hit for nothing.

Take a player at full cap hit, who might need a change of scenery/culture change for the NYR and they don't want to retain anything, so they just kind of dump him... and in Toronto eyes, if he's able to rebound to his 60-70 point self for free then it's a win/win for both teams.

Cap space isn't THAT tight league wide right now with the cap going up so much. If NYR were in a position to dump Kreider for future considerations, teams like Anaheim or San Jose could out-bid Toronto ("we offer a 4th rounder instead of future considerations"), and then that team could just max retain on Kreider and trade him half price cap hit to a playoff team for a good haul.

There's no scenario where the Leafs just get Kreider for free. With the cap as high as it is nowadays, that kind of a situation you're talking about would be happening for a $9m cap hit or higher player, not a winger under $7m cap hit.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Kreider isn't waiving to go to a Canadian team. So this is all a pointless discussion.

 

[lanceuppercut75]

Kreider isn't waiving to go to a Canadian team. So this is all a pointless discussion.

(1) Do we know this for sure?

(2) IF they're sending Rielly back (I know that Rielly was not in the OP), and Toronto is aggressively looking to move on from him, this could be a deal Toronto looks at doing anyways and then quickly trading Kreider to a 3rd team he's willing to waive for in exchange for a totally different forward. Just so long as Toronto accomplishes it's goal of moving Rielly out and bringing a forward in, doing a double trade instead of just a normal trade is fine and still works.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

why Kreider? he's one player the Leafs have zero interest in

You sound sure about that.

You shouldn't be, he is a Berube type player.

Personally I'd prefer Mason Marchment but it wouldn't shock me at all if they targeted Kreider

 

[Arthur Morgan]

You sound sure about that.

You shouldn't be, he is a Berube type player.

Personally I'd prefer Mason Marchment but it wouldn't shock me at all if they targeted Kreider

not unless hes basically free,

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

not unless hes basically free,

I think he probably comes extremely cheap

 

[bleedblue94]

If the Rangers are trading Kreider, it's to both change the culture AND to clear cap space. They're not taking significant dumps back in return.

Cap dumps with 5 years of term. Holy Christ. I wouldn't trade kreider straight for Reilly. Not a chance just based on the 5 year term left based on where his game is going.