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Chris Kreider - Goalie Goon or Not? MOD WARNING IN OP

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pld459666 said:
Evident to who? the biased view of an opposing fan?

No duh :shakehead
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As opposed to the biaised view of a Rangers fan?

You don't see problem with Kreider's antics, but many people do and it's a very legit subject of debate. So stop pretending you're the only one who knows what's right.
 
He got pushed into Holtby by... Orpik, I think? Seriously, why are guys pushing Kreider into their goaltenders if they know his supposed "MO?" Nothing even came of it. Holtby was fine.
 
Seb said:
As opposed to the biaised view of a Rangers fan?

You don't see problem with Kreider's antics, but many people do and it's a very legit subject of debate. So stop pretending you're the only one who knows what's right.
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When the league agrees with your position by having the Refs calling him for GI or suspending him, I will call it a legit subject.

Until then it's all ******** fans whining and crying about something the league doesn't see in the same light
 
Morten said:
Kreider was very clearly pushed into Holtby, the moment I saw the situation I knew there would be a thread about it on this board cause of the immense hate for Kreider, find a situation where Kreider commits GI when he isnt either pushed or tripped into the goalie
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so unless he runs a goalie on a penalty shot, this is the defacto defense for his reckless reckless play ? that someone pushed him ?

doesnt that defense grow old kind of quick ?
 
The fact that Kreider has goalie-related incidents more often than any other player leads me to think that it's not nearly as accidental as he'd like us to believe.
 
sandysan said:
so unless he runs a goalie on a penalty shot, this is the defacto defense for his reckless reckless play ? that someone pushed him ?

doesnt that defense grow old kind of quick ?
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don't want players to touch your goalie? dont push or trip them into them, league seems to agree as Kreider have 0 suspensions for GI
 
sandysan said:
so unless he runs a goalie on a penalty shot, this is the defacto defense for his reckless reckless play ? that someone pushed him ?

doesnt that defense grow old kind of quick ?
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Not if that is actually what is and has been happening.

The reason is legit because the contact (by opposing teams) is there....consistently

So, no the reasons don't get old, if they are legit.
 
I think the fact that there can be a thread about this speaks volumes.

I think his menality is "Ok, if you're going to hit me near the crease, there's a chance I might 'accidentally' make contact."
 
The NHL did nothing when Kreider took out Price.
The Habs would NOT do a revenge hit and the Rangers won the series.
I have been convinced that the only way to get the NHL to move on this issue is this. Someone will have to take a HUGE RUN and BREAK Ludqvist leg, then the NHL will hand the player a 10-20 games and the leagues NEXT meeting will come up with a new rule. Until something like this happens the NHL will let Kreider just injure all the goalies for FREE.
 
Meh.

Few players in the league have his combination of size and speed.

Last year he got tripped into Price by a diving (!) Emelin, and last night Orpik rode him into Holtby.
 
OneMoreAstronaut said:
The fact that Kreider has goalie-related incidents more often than any other player leads me to think that it's not nearly as accidental as he'd like us to believe.
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I would never insinuate that he doesn't drive hard to the net. He absolutely does so it's no surprise that there's going to be contact from time to time. It's gonna happen.

The Refs don't see the GI that posters here do.

The League hasn't spoken to him about the "dangerous" and "recklessness" of his play

so yeah, threads like this come off as a general whine fest when discussing something the NHL doesn't see or agree with.
 
Morten said:
don't want players to touch your goalie? dont push or trip them into them, league seems to agree as Kreider have 0 suspensions for GI
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so a guy with speed, you suggest that you just let him go in, unaccosted, in hopes that he doesnt conveniently catch an edge and barrel into your goalie ? for a lot of people ( despite the fact it puts you at a competitive disadvantage) this is a pretty reasonable expections. for a LOT of people.

he keeps it up, we wont need people to give him wide berth to put an end to it.

i saw someone push him from the grassy knoll right before he trucked another goalie, I swear!
 
If he's so reckless and does it on purpose why doesn't the ref call him for goalie interference? Maybe cause he's interfered with most of the time?
But HF clearly knows better than the refs.

Kreiders best asset is his speed and he's using it to beat the defender to the net, sometimes he get interfered with and makes contact with the goalie.
That's all there is to it imo.
 
RC51 said:
The NHL did nothing when Kreider took out Price.
The Habs would NOT do a revenge hit and the Rangers won the series.
I have been convinced that the only way to get the NHL to move on this issue is this. Someone will have to take a HUGE RUN and BREAK Ludqvist leg, then the NHL will hand the player a 10-20 games and the leagues NEXT meeting will come up with a new rule. Until something like this happens the NHL will let Kreider just injure all the goalies for FREE.
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lol if Kreider was so fixated at injuring goalies as you seem there would be quite a long list of injured goalies on his list
 
ALLCAPSALLTHETIME said:
Holtby has been playing well these playoffs and that concerns the Rangers.

The Rangers obviously have a game plan to try to injure Holtby. You can see that being carried out by Kreider the suicider as well as Tanner Glass with his stick to the throat routine. :shakehead
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Trust me, if Tanner Glass was trying to hit Holtby's throat with his stick he would have whiffed.
 
pld459666 said:
Not if that is actually what is and has been happening.

The reason is legit because the contact (by opposing teams) is there....consistently

So, no the reasons don't get old, if they are legit.
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so just to be clear, unless he runs a goalie on a penalty shot, you are going to hide, again and again, behind plausible deniability ?

where's the cut off ? he runs another 4 goalies, 5, 20 ? or does his speed and size give him liscence to run ANY goalie at any time so long as there is someone in the close proximity that you can transfer the blame to ?

just wondering
 
RC51 said:
The NHL did nothing when Kreider took out Price.
The Habs would NOT do a revenge hit and the Rangers won the series.
I have been convinced that the only way to get the NHL to move on this issue is this. Someone will have to take a HUGE RUN and BREAK Ludqvist leg, then the NHL will hand the player a 10-20 games and the leagues NEXT meeting will come up with a new rule. Until something like this happens the NHL will let Kreider just injure all the goalies for FREE.
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Maybe the NHL are not completely blind and saw Emelin trip him which caused him to crash into Price? Please.
 
Where's the video on this from last night? You can't start a thread without the evidence! :rant:
 
If everyone is so convinced he is doing it on purpose than all of your Dmen who he burns should just not touch him once he's by them. As long as they keep tripping him and pushing him once they're clearly beat it's going to look like it's the Dman's fault, not Kreider's.

You can't push a guy into your own goalie and then get upset that the guy fell into your own goalie.
 
I don't think he intends to injure, per say, but I think he has benefited greatly from running into goalies in the past and is yet to face any consequences.

It's sort of a "if im not gonna get in trouble why am i going to stop." And if he makes a game or series easier by knocking out a goalie, why not?
 
Good god, what'd he do now? I can't stand the guy. I don't know if he's actually malicious, but he's extremely reckless to the point where he should answer for it.
 
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